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raynebc May 13, 2007

That's a reason that I use Firefox.  It works with pretty much all PROPERLY created web pages that aren't explicitly designed to only work with a vendor-specific browser (especially Internet Explorer and ActiveX).

Ryu May 13, 2007

raynebc wrote:

That's a reason that I use Firefox.  It works with pretty much all PROPERLY created web pages that aren't explicitly designed to only work with a vendor-specific browser (especially Internet Explorer and ActiveX).

Thanks, at least the link is working today and it says "This file has expired."

Angela May 14, 2007

Merchandise, ahoy!  In addition to the soundtrack, I'm planning on picking up the following books, both of which are scheduled for 5/22:

Bring Me That Horizon: The Making of the Swashbuckling Movie Trilogy and The Art of Pirates of the Caribbean.

I also recommend the Complete Visual Guide, which I really should've waited for this year instead of picking up the first printing from last year.  (Last year's, of course, only covered the first two films.)

And, I know I shouldn't even consider these, but damn it, they're just so ADORABLE: COSBABIES!

Ryu May 14, 2007

No Barbossa Cosbaby?  Davy Jones is for crap.  Guh.  Just a head's up, apparently the movie starts on Thursday 5/24 at 8pm in some areas.  You might want to check Fandango or your local theater to find out if tickets are for sale yet.

Angela May 14, 2007

Ryu wrote:

No Barbossa Cosbaby?  Davy Jones is for crap.  Guh.  Just a head's up, apparently the movie starts on Thursday 5/24 at 8pm in some areas.  You might want to check Fandango or your local theater to find out if tickets are for sale yet.

I really wanted Barbossa myself.  Maybe he'll be in the second set, along with Liz, Tia Dalma and Norrington. ;)

Are you planning an 8pm yourself, or sticking with the midnight showing?  As obvious as my desire to see this movie the nanosecond it comes out, I still need to opt for Friday night.  I'll make up for that by seeing the film at least one or two more times before the long weekend is over.  ^_^

Ryu May 15, 2007

8pm is best, considering my cousin who is still in high school wants to see it and he really shouldn't be out as late as necessary for a midnight showing.  School doesn't let out for him until 6/8.  So, I'll be doing the 8pm showing, although I'm not complaining to see it early.  I think I'll only see it once in theaters anyway.  300 is the only movie I saw twice in quite a long time (I can't even recall the last movie I saw more than once in the last couple of years) only because I had two groups with whom to see it.

Angela May 19, 2007

Soundtrack.net has a new thirty minute Podcast interview with Zimmer up.  It's a great listen; he focuses on the making of the AWE score, and best of all, there's plenty of new music samples to relish throughout.  Of particular interest is the announcement of another remix album coming later in June, and Zimmer's own thoughts about playing with the idea of releasing a suite-only album of the Pirates scores.

Check out the interview here:

http://www.soundtrack.net/media/podcast/2007-05-13.mp3

I can't believe the week of release is finally upon us.  It's been a long ten months, but as you say, it's a whole lot better than the three years between Star Wars' ESB and ROTJ.  Hope you enjoy the film, Ryu!  Would love to hear your impressions by the end. :)

Wanderer May 19, 2007

I've heard the score. It's oddly effective (and for once in a Bruckheimer film, there's actually woodwinds in it!). Easily the best of the three scores.

Ryu May 19, 2007

Wanderer, you a pirate?

Angela, I'll let you know; the main thing with which I'm concerned is that this movie redeems (for me at least) DMC.  I listened to that podcast... it seems that Zimmer didn't really think about the concept of spoilers much?  I'm not too familiar with Zimmer; does he usually follow up movie soundtracks at all?

Angela May 20, 2007

I picked up the early release this morning (read: store broke street date), and after my first full listen, I concede: At World's End could very well be the best score of the three.  Serving as a bookend to the trilogy, it's immensely satisfying; the many, many themes introduced and laid out from the first two all make strong, memorable statements, developing into a worthy finale.  The new multi-sectional main theme is all at once adventurous, epic, tender, and emotive, clearly receptive to a wide array of musical arrangements.  "Up Is Down" is still the best representation of the piece; the swashbuckling heft is awash in its jaunty melody and appropriate instrumental choices.  (Love that Irish fiddle!)  Both Hoist The Colours and Singapore are welcome additions as well.

Zimmer's orchestrations have definitely gotten tighter up to this point, where the synths play more to the backdrop.  The woodwinds really do add a great element to the score, and certainly proves that there IS a place for them in a Bruckheimer film.  There are elements from Zimmer's recent works that creeps into the darker aspects of the soundtrack, like the ethereal choir from The Da Vinci Code and that systematic two note-minor key progression from Batman Begins.  It all works extremely well when laced with the Pirates flavor.

My only real nitpick is that "Drink Up Me Hearties" feels a bit thrown together as an edit on the album.  Dunno, it sounds sloppy as it transitions between He's A Pirate and the new main theme, and abrupt when it segues into its variations.  It's not nearly as smooth as the end credits in Dead Man's Chest; perhaps it'll sound less truncated during the end credits in the film?  We'll see.

Also..... no Kraken arrangements? -_-;  I know it was prominent enough in DMC, but it's just as much a part of Davy Jones' Theme as the music box one.  Would've been nice to hear at least one variation.

Ryu May 20, 2007

Drink Up Me Hearties is definitely not the full ending credits, which is a total disappointment, but perhaps because he is considering either full score releases (DOUBTFUL!) or that suite idea from the podcast.

Yeah, I pirated this Friday and found the last track a disappointment only because I was hoping for the full end credits theme (at least on one of these darn soundtracks!)

I wish Best Buy would break street date on the blu-rays.

jb May 20, 2007

The soundtrack to this movie is phenomenal.  It's way better than typical Zimmer scores and a lot better than the first two scores, which just seemed a bit too standardized Hollywood film score for a movie.  This one has a lot of dark and ambient tones to it and gives the whole soundtrack a really chilling feel at times; and at others it's very bombastic.  Well done.

Wanderer May 20, 2007

My biggest problem with the score is that every time I hear the love theme, I'm reminded of "My Heart Will Go On." It's not a pretty picture. wink

Xenogears Omni May 20, 2007

jb wrote:

The soundtrack to this movie is phenomenal.  It's way better than typical Zimmer scores and a lot better than the first two scores, which just seemed a bit too standardized Hollywood film score for a movie.  This one has a lot of dark and ambient tones to it and gives the whole soundtrack a really chilling feel at times; and at others it's very bombastic.  Well done.

Agreed 100 percent. Zimmer fans should be eating this up, at the very least.

Ryu May 24, 2007

Better than Dead Man's Chest, and redeems that movie for sure.  I'll say no more, other than be sure to wait for the after credits scene.  I hope you enjoy it, Angela (and anyone else), and look forward to what you have to say.

Angela May 26, 2007 (edited May 26, 2007)

Just got back, and I'm still reeling from giddiness; it was everything I was hoping it would be, and more.  At World's End really returns to being a character piece, and indeed, every character, big and small, gets a memorable moment. (Sometimes several!)  Bold choices were made as to where some of our key players end up, but that's what has made this series so brilliantly fun and unconventional up to this point. 

The coda scene is a wonderfully-moving extension of the ending, though its intended meaning may be unclear because of an apparent piece of dialogue that was cut from the final film.  Needless to say, if it's true, it does make for a happier ending. :)

The music, again, sounds far less condensed in film than it does on the CD soundtrack, though I admit that the soundtrack remains an excellent representation of the score as a whole.  The edit of "Drink Up Me Hearties" on the CD is exactly the same as in the film, so I was mistaken on my previous assumption -- but they did cut out a new, lengthy suite arrangement of Hoist The Colours, which makes up the majority of the credits. 

In short, At World's End strengthens Dead Man's Chest's role as a legitimate middle part of the trilogy, while following through with the final payoff, as well as coming full circle with finishing what The Curse of The Black Pearl had begun.  And like the first two films, AWE warrants repeat viewings, with its layers upon layers of plot intrigue and subtext, mind-melting eyecandy, and incredible entertainment value.  You can bet I'll be going back to this one a good number of times before its theatrical run is over.

Wanderer May 26, 2007

I haven't seen the movie yet but I've heard the final battle cue is like 25 minutes, obviously truncated on the soundtrack cd. That's a lot of action music. yikes

Angela May 26, 2007

Wanderer wrote:

I haven't seen the movie yet but I've heard the final battle cue is like 25 minutes, obviously truncated on the soundtrack cd. That's a lot of action music. :o

Yep, much of the first half of the battle didn't make it onto the soundtrack.  And just like what Zimmer said on the podcast, the CD representation of "I Don't Think Now Is The Best Time" is arranged a bit differently.  What they've done is they took the final part of the battle as it's presented in the film, and made it into the first five minutes of the track -- and the last five or six minutes is actually the middle part of the battle.

Ryu May 26, 2007

I actually don't hate Davy Jones after this movie, but he still is nothing compared to Barbossa.

Angela wrote:

The coda scene is a wonderfully-moving extension of the ending, though its intended meaning may be unclear because of an apparent piece of dialogue that was cut from the final film.  Needless to say, if it's true, it does make for a happier ending. smile

What was the cut dialogue?

Angela May 26, 2007

Angela wrote:

What was the cut dialogue?

I'll white it out here, but I absolutely encourage anyone who's still planning on seeing the film to NOT look:

...."According to the film's writers, there's a line of dialogue that got cut between Davy Jones and Calypso, that explains why he was so hurt because she wasn't there for him when he came ashore after his first 10 years.  Not only did it mean he didn't get to be with her, but it also meant he was cursed to go back out to sea for another 10 years.  The curse of The Dutchman is broken if, after the ten years, the captain's lover remains faithful. The final post-credits scene suggests that Will can return to land as he pleases, as Elizabeth has remained true. The green flash, which symbolizes a soul returning from the dead, supports this.".....

Angela May 28, 2007

Angela wrote:

Merchandise, ahoy!  In addition to the soundtrack, I'm planning on picking up the following books, both of which are scheduled for 5/22:

Bring Me That Horizon: The Making of the Swashbuckling Movie Trilogy and The Art of Pirates of the Caribbean.

The books came in yesterday, and I gave them a detailed skimming.  Both make a fabulous first impression; they're large, nicely-binded, and of very high paper quality.

"The Art of Pirates" is just that; comprised entirely of artwork, from initial sketches and conceptual pieces to final designs, punctuated by brief production notes.  Just shy of 160 pages, the build of this book is impressive; it's HUGE, first of all, so the full page artwork really benefits.  (Some pieces actually come close to poster size if a certain piece of artwork spans two pages!)  It's got a very classy leather-bound hard cover and matte paper quality.  The designs really remind you just how much goes into the making of these films, and it's fascinating to see how a lot of the characters developed from a first idea to their final design.

"Bring Me That Horizon" is the more detail-oriented book, chockful of information from just about every facet of the production of the films, from conceptual art, storyboards, detailed bios of all the characters, actors and film makers, costumes, set layouts, and various fight choreography.   At 176 pages, it's also really pretty to look at, with full-colored photos and behind the scenes shots.

Hands down the two best franchise books on the market thus far, and for making-of books in general, these are definitely some of the better ones I've seen.  I fully recommend them in tandem, as they cover both sides of the production so well.

Ryu May 30, 2007

Ok, I'll admit; I went to see it again last night because a friend came back in town and had not seen it.  Still good on the second viewing.

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