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Chris Jan 7, 2009

Heh, are you the guy who rated all Sugiyama's a 0.5 on VGMdb? big_smile Anyway, I agree with Smeg and Ramza. I try not to let a person's views or personality get in the way of how I perceive their art.  Although having a bad personality or controversial views is more likely to make me want to slam someone whose music already sucks, e.g. TT. Doesn't really change how I view their music though.

Datschge Jan 7, 2009

I guess if people think that political (or religious or whatever) views matter in instrumental music one better ask all musicians about them. May help people sifting through them.

Grassie Jan 7, 2009

Aren't most Japanese petty racists anyway? tongue I do understand your sentiment though. I immediately stopped listening to "Thomas Dybdahl" (Norwegian artist) when I found out that he voted Conservative! I only listen to Norwegian musicians who votes on the Socialist Party now.

Those Japanese are strange though. Most European nationalists (exclude nazi-punks) would make "national" music, that is music which is distinctly Norwegian, British or French. But this Koichi dude seems to take most of his influence from European classical (gulp!), and not Japanese folk music. (?) My stance would be that a nationalist with such an internal inconsistency would deserve a listen. smile

(On the subject.) I've never been a Mitsuda-craze, but I do like most of the stuff I've listened to. I hope "Star-Stealing Girl" will get an arrangement like this one (A Narrow Space in Between). That said, I don't find this arrangement particularly exciting, but it works well as background music. That's exactly what I want from Mitsuda, and in my mind, that is what he excels at. That said, I also hope the album will flow nicely and have a single mood... An album that fits well to the activity of sitting on the couch - staring into thin air, sipping red wine, being in love, and thinking heart-pounding pink thoughts about the person of your fascination.

Jodo Kast Jan 7, 2009 (edited Jan 7, 2009)

Pellasos wrote:

i could never enjoy any music related to sugiyama. something i read a long time ago left a bad taste to me.

"As a Japanese nationalist Sugiyama is also known as a historical revisionist on Japanese history. Especially concerning the Nanking Massacre and Comfort Women issues, Sugiyama completely denies guilt of the Japanese Empire. He is one of the first signatories in approval of the "The Facts" advertisement in the Washington Post.[15][16] "

This is no different than a mother still loving a son that has been convicted of murder. Emotions are not rational. Sugiyama can believe there are aliens living in the core of the moon, he can believe certain historical figures in Japan are guilty of nothing; it doesn't matter. Beliefs are related to behavior, not abilities. His music ability is related to his irrational beliefs as much as my irrational beliefs are related to my writing ability. Beliefs may affect the content of the phenomena known as art, but not ability.

Bernhardt Jan 8, 2009 (edited Jan 8, 2009)

Chris wrote:

Heh, are you the guy who rated all Sugiyama's a 0.5 on VGMdb? big_smile Anyway, I agree with Smeg and Ramza. I try not to let a person's views or personality get in the way of how I perceive their art.  Although having a bad personality or controversial views is more likely to make me want to slam someone whose music already sucks, e.g. TT. Doesn't really change how I view their music though.

Unless you consider the slew of pop artists whose sole purpose is to espouse their (supposed) political or philosophical beliefs; sometimes, I don't think they even believe what they're singing about, they're just singing songs about what they think or know people will buy and listen to.

I mean, when that's the purpose of their music, and it's in their lyrics, it is REALLY hard to ignore, or otherwise not be irritated by them.

Amazingu Jan 8, 2009

Wow, this thread has taken a rather unexpected turn :S

I agree with Jodo though (quickly, check if the rivers are turning red!) a person's artistic abilities are completely unrelated to their personal beliefs, but, like Bernhardt said, it could be considered bothersome when it shines through in their lyrics.

Sugiyama can spout all the bullshite he wants as long as he keeps making quality music.

And, seriously, not listening to someone because he votes Conservative!?
Please tell me you are being sarcastic.

Grassie Jan 9, 2009 (edited Jan 9, 2009)

Amazingu wrote:

And, seriously, not listening to someone because he votes Conservative!?
Please tell me you are being sarcastic.

I don't dare to directly criticize his opinion of Koichi Sugiyama. sad It's because it would generate such a negative atmosphere around here. And one wouldn't want to be responsible for that, would one? smile Better go with "hidden messages" then.

Amazingu Jan 9, 2009

Grassie wrote:

I don't dare to directly criticize his opinion of Koichi Sugiyama. sad It's because it would generate such a negative atmosphere around here. And one wouldn't want to be responsible for that, would one? smile Better go with "hidden messages" then.

Uh....what?

I was talking about your comment on that Norwegian artist...

KujaFFman Jan 18, 2009

For those who might be interested, I have a new interview with Mitsuda on my website: here !

He refers to the Chrono Cross arranged album, saying that he has to complete it before moving on to another solo project. I guess things are finally starting to clear up. I am so looking forward to another Kirite, because I still consider this album as one of his greatest works, if not his greatest work.

Bernhardt Jan 18, 2009

KujaFFman wrote:

For those who might be interested, I have a new interview with Mitsuda on my website: here !

He refers to the Chrono Cross arranged album, saying that he has to complete it before moving on to another solo project. I guess things are finally starting to clear up. I am so looking forward to another Kirite, because I still consider this album as one of his greatest works, if not his greatest work.

Q: What kind of pieces would you say are the most difficult to write?

A: I would say what we call BGM. I actually hate this expression. I am not very good at writing this kind of music, which never distracts attention from what is happening on screen and simply plays unnoticed in the background. In these cases, I would rather have no music at all...

Wow, really? I always thought Mitsuda did good BGMs, but his cinematic pieces (a la Xenogears) I think he also does well. Iwadare is also good at making melodic cinematic pieces, more than his BGMs...I'd say those're two artists right off the top of my head who I can think of actually do good, melodic cinematic music...

Q: What becomes of the pieces that are not used in the game?

A: These pieces are not processed! (laughs) They simply disappear.

That is sad. sad

Q: Can you tell us what it is that you like about Celtic music?

A: It makes me think of the countryside! (laughs) I think Celtic music is filled with heart-warming melancholy.

YES.

Dais Jan 21, 2009

Grassie wrote:

But this Koichi dude seems to take most of his influence from European classical (gulp!), and not Japanese folk music. (?)

Sugiyama is the exclusive (?) composer for the Furai no Shiren/Shiren the Wanderer series (and you've played the DS game if you know what's good for you), which while not quite as Japanese as the stuff that you occasionally hear in games (like the ever delightful ondo), it's definitely a lot more Japanese than what you hear in Dragon Quest.

Chris Jan 22, 2009

Dais wrote:

Sugiyama is the exclusive (?) composer for the Furai no Shiren/Shiren the Wanderer series (and you've played the DS game if you know what's good for you)

Actually, Hayato Matsuo has been largely responsible for the Fuurai no Shiren soundtracks aside the SNES and N64 soundtracks (so he did the games for GB, GBC, DC, DS, and Wii). He mostly arranges Sugiyama's compositions and creates a number of his own. Also the arranger of the awesome SNES arranged album. But great to see another person recognises this awesome series!

Ramza Jan 23, 2009

Someone needs to ask Mitsuda if he'll ever work with Joanne Hogg again. That would warm my heart. smile

Idolores Jan 26, 2009

Ramza wrote:

Someone needs to ask Mitsuda if he'll ever work with Joanne Hogg again. That would warm my heart. smile

Agreed. Those two were born to collaborate. smile

Boonage Jan 29, 2009

I hope that the two Chrono Cross arranged tracks from Hopeful Weeds are included. Those tracts are truly wonderful to listen to. I love Mitsuda's light acoustic sound.

Alcahest Jun 9, 2011

Nice find.
Assuming the translation from japanese to french is correct in the first place, he says twice "It'll be done within the year".
Let's wait & see.. wink

Herrkotowski Jun 10, 2011

Alcahest wrote:

Nice find.
Assuming the translation from japanese to french is correct in the first place, he says twice "It'll be done within the year".
Let's wait & see.. wink

Now we just have to figure out if he means within 2011, or a year from that post! haha

Carl Jun 10, 2011 (edited Jun 10, 2011)

Time to party like it's 2005 again.

"It was originally announced in January 2005, and the initial release date was July 2005. "

Adam Corn Jun 10, 2011

Seriously folks, I wouldn't get my hopes up until there's been a concrete release date announced.  This thing has been announced and re-announced for years on end.

Razakin Jun 11, 2011

Album's title should be easy, Chrono Cross Forever.

And so hoping that the album will be around same type as Brink of Time.

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