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Dragonfish Dog Oct 20, 2015 (edited Oct 20, 2015)

Moses wrote:
Dragonfish Dog wrote:

So, title.

Does anyone know the title of this album in English?

Oddly enough, it's actually called Chrono Trigger & Chrono Cross - Arranged Album.

I don't think anyone knows what this thing is called.

Different sources are calling it different things.

Kirin Lemon wrote:

Oh my GOD, I'm so in love with every last arrangement on this album, but I can't help but be disappointed that they added vocals to over half of the songs unnecessarily.  I'd kill for non-vocal versions of these tracks - straight-up murder.  I've waited for the promised Chrono Cross arrange album for, what, nearly ten years now, and it has to share billing with Trigger, only be ten tracks and 43 minutes in length, AND get these vocals added in for no reason?  That's just cruel, Mitsuda...

Well, maybe when I finally get a copy of the album, I can run it through my audio editor, and scrap out the vocals for those who don't want them there.

Or you could just Google how to get said software yourself for free.

I personally don't mind the vocals, and at least 4 tracks on there are quality instrumental-only orchestrations.

Yeah, I would've appreciated a full-on Chrono Cross only arrange album, too, but whatcha gonna do, huh?

XLord007 Nov 25, 2015 (edited Nov 25, 2015)

I finally got around to listening to this and I have to say I'm disappointed. The direction they went with all the English vocals definitely isn't what I was looking for, and the even the instrumental tracks aren't anything particularly special. The mastering/production also isn't particularly great, but that's another story.

Ramza Nov 26, 2015

XLord007 wrote:

I finally got around to listening to this and I have to say I'm disappointed. The direction they went with all the English vocals definitely isn't what I was looking for, and the even the instrumental tracks aren't anything particularly special. The mastering/production also isn't particularly great, but that's another story.

I would encourage you to give it subsequent listens. Things that I totally missed on initial listens that have caught on since, and have also made me fall in love with the album:

1) concept album about Schala and Kidd and ... their relationship as being the same person, and not. Every song chosen has some strong connection to one or both characters (Wind Scene and Marbule are iffy, but close enough). Consider the English lyrics for Corridors of Time (tr8, Shigihara vocals) ... a song from Schala's perspective of her little brother's warnings that crap is about to happen, that she would run if her mother wasn't a psycho that held her prisoner ... and then at the end, "was my life just taken from me?" -- the moment she uses the last of her powers to teleport everyone to safety, the moment she merges with Lavos, the dimension rift forms, everything... All in that moment.

2) Star-Stealing Girl was snuck in. When I initially saw the tracklist I was deeply saddened that this lovely, simple piece of music (which fit the theme perfectly) was missing. But it's *not*. It's just embedded as an instrumental solo in track4 (more Shigihara, Schala's theme, pseudo-language stuff). After 2nd chorus, you get that beautiful melody, and on a real Celtic pipe that sounds far better than the CC OST "la-la" vocal synth.

3) "Marbule" is the instrumental track that all the vocal-haters can focus on. It's 100% on-par with Xenogears CREID's instrumental tracks (esp tr. 3 and 5, Balto and Dajil). For the people who couldn't swallow the vocals, I could understand wishing the album had been 10 tracks of THIS. I would've dug that too. An all CC album that wasn't themed around Schala could do just that. What can we do to motivate Mitsuda to put out YET ANOTHER arranged album? Because whatever we can do, I'm in.

4) Kumi Tanioka on piano. She plays piano on the Sarah Allain tracks (2 and 10), and her piano work is just ... it's stupidly-good. I had the pleasure of seeing Tanioka-san perform some FFXI tracks, solo on a weighted keyboard, at FF Fanfest 2008. It was a great little intimate showing of her talents. But give her a baby-grand in a studio with infinite takes, and ... wow. She is QUITE the pianist!

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I can understand being disappointed since this album isn't at all what many people wanted. But if you're willing to accept it on its terms as concept album ... well, I think it's more than "just okay." I can't think of a singularly more cohesive arranged album from Square Enix than this. And considering my love for ... well ... most other SE arranged albums, especially some of the great old stuff (Seiken Densetsu orchestral, here's lookin' at you!), I think that's saying something.

XLord007 Nov 26, 2015

Ramza wrote:

3) "Marbule" is the instrumental track that all the vocal-haters can focus on. It's 100% on-par with Xenogears CREID's instrumental tracks (esp tr. 3 and 5, Balto and Dajil). For the people who couldn't swallow the vocals, I could understand wishing the album had been 10 tracks of THIS. I would've dug that too. An all CC album that wasn't themed around Schala could do just that. What can we do to motivate Mitsuda to put out YET ANOTHER arranged album? Because whatever we can do, I'm in.

Having given it a second listen, I'm inclined to agree that Track 6 is pretty good, but I also enjoyed Track 3 quite a bit.

Ramza Nov 29, 2015

Yes, having a piano+string ensemble of Wind Scene is really nice! I also liked "Frozen Flame," but would've happily replaced it with "Garden of the Gods" or "Chronopolis." smile

Namorbia Jan 17, 2016

I finally listened to this album. I didn't read any impressions beforehand and only listened to a few samples many months ago and decided that they weren't enough to judge anything.

So I waited until I had zero hype or expectations and just listened to the album without anything running on my mind.

I love it. I absolutely love the whole album. I'm not usually keen on vocal tracks – I often skip the ones on CREID – but I was surprised by how much I loved the vocal tracks on this one. Especially Laura Shigihara did a great job on Corridors of Time.

I cried when I heard Time's Scar. The arrangement is so fantastic. I've listened to the album maybe ten times now and I can't stop. I just like the flow of it, from a rocking start to more and more mellower tracks. When it starts again from the beginning, the guitar on Time's Scar is the perfect ambiance to bring the album back to the "beginning of the loop". It's like an amazing 42-minute loop of arranged Chrono music. I've always thought 40 minutes is the perfect length for an album, maybe because I grew up watching so much TV with episodes being ~40 minutes.

I hope Mitsuda will do more albums like this. I don't care if he just produces and others arrange, if the quality is this great.

Ramza Jan 17, 2016

Namorbia wrote:

Especially Laura Shigihara did a great job on Corridors of Time.

Preach. I thought Shigihara was amazing on all 3 tracks. Corridors of Time came out especially well, agreed on that.

I very much want a full CC album now. If you think about it, the Millennial Fair "team" w/ Mitsuda did Brink of Time (CT only), then To Far Away Times (CT+CC) ... now we need that precious CC arrange album. I recently re-acquired the CC OST and I can easily pick out a bunch of tracks that could stand the Millennial Fair touch. Like what they did with Marbule (holy hell did they improve that song!).

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