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American Nightmare Apr 20, 2007 (edited Apr 20, 2007)

I wonder what would happen if a bunch of people created bogus eBay accounts and used the BIN option to close out all of his auctions.  Just curious.

PaperMario21 Apr 20, 2007

American Nightmare wrote:

I wonder what would happen if a bunch of people created bogus eBay accounts and used the BIN option to close out all of his auctions.  Just curious.

care to try people?

raynebc Apr 20, 2007

They will close the account and any account with matching name or credit card information.  I once tried to create a pseudo account with a different credit card from the same bank that still had my name, and ebay realized that account was related to my old account.

Laif Apr 20, 2007

Anyone got that asshole's address? Some of you guys should team up and pay him a short visit. >_>

American Nightmare Apr 20, 2007 (edited Apr 20, 2007)

raynebc wrote:

They will close the account and any account with matching name or credit card information.  I once tried to create a pseudo account with a different credit card from the same bank that still had my name, and ebay realized that account was related to my old account.

Actually, you don't need a credit card to open an eBay account (only if you wish to register as a seller).  Also, the names and addresses on the accounts don't have to be authentic, so they could be changed (reinvented) every time.

Of course, the accounts would each be eventually cancelled by eBay after two or three non-paying-bidder strikes, but by then the damage to the seller will have been done, and of course, as new items are listed, new bogus accounts could be created, rinse and repeat, until the seller gets tired of dealing with the hassle of relisting items and requesting final value fee refunds from eBay.

Of course this is all just speculation and not suggestive of any course of action... wink

lordskylark Apr 30, 2007

How can you view a seller's actual address without buying a produc from them? I wanted to know what the payment address is for customspecialists?

~Andy

otaku.com May 15, 2007

Nothing to report so far.

I've contacted just about everyone I can think to contact...

Unless he actually puts "CD-R" in the ebay item description,
eBay will not remove the item.

I wish I could afford to license some of this music,
then I would have "rights ownership" and then I could shut him
down on eBay plus sue him for the thousands of $$$ he must be making!

avatar! May 15, 2007

otaku.com wrote:

Nothing to report so far.

I've contacted just about everyone I can think to contact...

Unless he actually puts "CD-R" in the ebay item description,
eBay will not remove the item.

I wish I could afford to license some of this music,
then I would have "rights ownership" and then I could shut him
down on eBay plus sue him for the thousands of $$$ he must be making!

So how much would it cost you to liscense some of the music? Can you give us a rough idea? Perhaps we can start a fund-raising compaign?

cheers,

-avatar!

DJ Mike May 16, 2007

The thing that gets me is that people fall for his auctions so readily when he doesn't even supply his warez in CD jewel cases - those DVD boxes are a dead giveaway! (And surely eBay would listen if we sent in pictures of authentic soundtracks displayed in jewel cases versus his crappy Amaray-packaged tripe?)

Ramza May 17, 2007 (edited May 17, 2007)

American Nightmare wrote:

Actually, you don't need a credit card to open an eBay account (only if you wish to register as a seller).  Also, the names and addresses on the accounts don't have to be authentic, so they could be changed (reinvented) every time.

Of course, the accounts would each be eventually cancelled by eBay after two or three non-paying-bidder strikes, but by then the damage to the seller will have been done, and of course, as new items are listed, new bogus accounts could be created, rinse and repeat, until the seller gets tired of dealing with the hassle of relisting items and requesting final value fee refunds from eBay.

Of course this is all just speculation and not suggestive of any course of action... wink

Speculation indeed.

EDIT -- check this out. If you scan far enough into his list of auction items:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Metal-Gear-Solid-Po … dZViewItem

He's also selling off the originals he purchased to create the bootleg items. And, at overwhelmingly high prices, probably what he had to pay from Amazon Japan and then some.

Ramza

Schala May 31, 2007

I am getting ever more curious about this seller, especially now that he's including scans of his shipping receipt from Amazon Japan as supposed proof about the authenticity of the CDs. I'm really interested in buying one of those Final Fantasy collections.

Arcubalis Jun 1, 2007

It's unfortunate, but you guys are probably wasting your time.  eBay is horrible at following up on this stuff.  There was seller selling the same synthesizer 20 or so times for $650, and all they did was suspend his account.  It's absolutely ridiculous.  The worst that would happen here would be they'd be suspended and open another account with a different credit card or name.

More so, people are probably out there bootlegging mainstream CDs and making a lot more money than these guys are.  The VGM market is such a niche market that I doubt you're going to get eBay, or anyone, for that matter, very excited about going after these guys.

Mario Jun 4, 2007 (edited Jun 4, 2007)

I recently bought some items from custom_specialists and I apologize for my dumbness. I didn't know they were supposed to be bootlegged, and the sad part is, I'm not even new to game soundtracks, so I really should've known better.

I have a question though: You know how most media players will automatically look up track listings when you insert a music cd? I stuck a few of the custom_specialists cds in there and it found the appropriate tracklists for them. Does this mean that they aren't bootlegged after all?

lordskylark Jun 4, 2007

NO. I've compared the original legal versions to his- Just the printing on the disc and the look of them are obviously fake. He also has full cds in place of 3" singles.     If you run a program, you can find out what burning program he used as opposed to the originals (which don't list one).   
So, yes, they are most defnitely fake.

~Andy

Mario Jun 4, 2007 (edited Jun 4, 2007)

Am I allowed to post his address on here so people can go whoop him? smile

P.S. Sorry about double-posting.

Mario Jun 4, 2007

Well, I kinda want to, but at the same time I don't want to get myself into trouble for it. If a moderator gives me the okay, then I guess I'll go ahead and post it. Otherwise it would probably be best if I didn't.

avatar! Jun 4, 2007 (edited Jun 4, 2007)

Mario wrote:

Well, I kinda want to, but at the same time I don't want to get myself into trouble for it. If a moderator gives me the okay, then I guess I'll go ahead and post it. Otherwise it would probably be best if I didn't.

Well, you purchased BOOTLEGED items from this guy, so all you're doing is warning us! I don't see why you think you'd get in trouble for that?

cheers,

-avatar!

American Nightmare Jun 4, 2007 (edited Jun 4, 2007)

Mario wrote:

I have a question though: You know how most media players will automatically look up track listings when you insert a music cd? I stuck a few of the custom_specialists cds in there and it found the appropriate tracklists for them. Does this mean that they aren't bootlegged after all?

I've burned copies of official CDs for friends and when I played the CD-R to make sure that it had recorded successfully, the track list always shows up the same as if I were playing the original CD.  Therefore, even if it's a bootleg CD-R the track list data can still be read by the media player.  That's been my experience, anyhow.

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