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Amazingu Sep 18, 2014 (edited Sep 20, 2014)

So Square-Enix released a new trailer for what has got to be the longest-in-development Final Fantasy ever, and I gotta say, it excites me tremendously.
Lots of people complain that it doesn't look like a "true" Final Fantasy game, and I can see where they're coming from but if it looks this good, I don't even care.

Getting a very strong Xenoblade X vibe from this, and the world needs more of that.

Trailer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wT3dyanB3pk

HD version

http://www.gamersyde.com/news_tgs_fi...-15851_en.html

Update:

Gameplay footage (from 22:45):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGYHpvvRHUA

Pellasos Sep 18, 2014

yea, it looks different. all that driving. are they trying to do some kind of open world jrpg? i'm talking about GTA and similar games, just in a jrpg world. i know i'll be playing it, like always.

Amazingu Sep 19, 2014

Yeah, I think they already said it would be more open-world a very long time ago.

And it looks like they're going for somewhat of a road trip vibe as well, which I think is hilarious (in a good way!).

Qui-Gon Joe Sep 19, 2014

Well the trailer has reinforced my opinion that whether the game turns out good or bad, the soundtrack will be freaking awesome.

Amazingu Sep 19, 2014

Qui-Gon Joe wrote:

Well the trailer has reinforced my opinion that whether the game turns out good or bad, the soundtrack will be freaking awesome.

Shimomura for life!

vert1 Sep 19, 2014

The graphics are very impressive, specifically the largeness of the areas. The character design, dialogue, vocals, enemy AI (player ran up on enemy rubbing against him at 1:27) aren't to my liking at all. (Reminds me of this lame Asian film I watched recently called Commitment where the hero acts so pathetically frail yet inexplicably is an overpowered badass.) The hop over person move in battle is neat. The music in the trailer is okay.

There probably is going to be a lot of driving around in boring environments without any cop car chases. The player is going to be forced to endure hours of melodramatic banter? Will the car radio work or a skip conversation? Deadly Premonition at least had humorous banter on these long drives. Probably can't run over enemies in this game with your car... The open-world while making the world more seamless will increase the jrpg problem of large empty wandering space. Can a huge battle break out anywhere to justify the extra roaming distance? Can enemies track you down for longer distances or can you hunt enemies for longer distances?

Doesn't look better mechanically than Xenoblade or a Monster Hunter game. Will Square brave making this multi-player?

Ashley Winchester Sep 19, 2014

I kind of have to admit that while this game is only one of a handful current gen titles I actually have any interest in I'm still not that enthused about it.

I don't really want "to go there" but to be honest the Final Fantasy brand name just doesn't hold the same clout it did with me a few generations ago.

These feelings have also retroactively lowered my opinion of the older games as well even if they deserve the recognition they've received.

Adam Corn Sep 19, 2014

Most interesting element in the trailer to me is the character interaction and dialog during battle.  That could go a long way towards making the battles more cinematic, though there's the question of whether they start saying the same thing over and over after the twentieth battle.  The more real-time action could liven things up and it's no surprise the graphics look nice.

It feels odd to me seeing dudes driving around in a car one scene, sword-hacking dinosaurs in another, and shooting foot soldiers with pistols in the next (um just use the gun in the first place), but this juxtaposition is hardly new to the series.

I expect the characters to be cliched, juvenile and annoying, which would likely be the main thing preventing me from playing, but maybe they'll surprise me.

jb Sep 19, 2014

I really don't know how I feel about this yet...

Pros:

- Music sounds great. If this is an indication of Shimomuras work for this, I'm super excited
- Battle system: has potential. I'm unsure how well it will work but if it's like a Dynasty Warriors style hack and slash with maybe a little depth, it'll be good.

Cons:

- characters look straight out of a Kpop band. Terrible. Final Fantasy XV, not Final Fantasy iDOLM@STER. Fan service is fine in small doses but not like this. And it's definitely eastern fan service not western.
- story. What the hell is this? I don't want some sort of road trip. That sounds dumb as hell
- mixed tech: guns, swords, dinosaurs, cars and gunships. Uh, what?
- combat looks dangerously similar to Monster Hunter and I don't know how I feel about that...

Amazingu Sep 20, 2014

Squex showed off some actual gameplay today, because they wanted to show that the recent trailer was not all CG:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGYHpvvRHUA

(Skip to 22:45 for the FFXV portion, or to 28:15 for the actual combat)

Apparently the environment in this demo is about 70% complete, so it will look even better in the final game/demo.

I don't think it looks anything like Monster Hunter, but it doesn't look anything like Dynasty Warriors either.
It looks similar to Crisis Core and Type 0, with a dash of Kingdom Hearts, which should come as no surprise, since it has the same directors.

XLord007 Sep 20, 2014 (edited Sep 20, 2014)

I watched the new trailer, and I just can't get down with the character designs. They're the same "let's appeal to teenage girls" Nomura overdesign nonsense we've been seeing since he got free reign, and are a total turnoff for me. Layered spiky hair and zippered clothing may have been cool in 1997, but it's 2014 and Final Fantasy needs to upgrade its fashion sense.

The music sounds good, and I have no particular feelings either way towards the gameplay at this point, but I can't get past the character designs and the little they've shown of the plot points to the same brooding melodramas I wish this series could grow out of. Nomura may no longer be directing FFXV, but he spent eight years on it, and it shows. Hopefully someone I know will get Final Fantasy Type-0 so I can try the FFXV demo for myself, but right now I plan to skip this one.

GoldfishX Sep 20, 2014

Adam Corn wrote:

Most interesting element in the trailer to me is the character interaction and dialog during battle.  That could go a long way towards making the battles more cinematic, though there's the question of whether they start saying the same thing over and over after the twentieth battle.  The more real-time action could liven things up and it's no surprise the graphics look nice.

Heh, reading this just reminds me of Star Ocean 2's battles.

My takeaway from seeing this game in action is that its not going to do much to inspire people about the future of JRPG's.

Ashley Winchester Sep 20, 2014 (edited Sep 20, 2014)

GoldfishX wrote:

Heh, reading this just reminds me of Star Ocean 2's battles.

"That's around 40 points!"

Edit:

However, I think the game got more annoying when they added VA to the ENTIRE game on the PSP.

Man, never realized how bratty SO2 cast was until then....

Ashley Winchester Sep 22, 2014

XLord007 wrote:

I watched the new trailer, and I just can't get down with the character designs. They're the same "let's appeal to teenage girls" Nomura overdesign nonsense we've been seeing since he got free reign, and are a total turnoff for me. Layered spiky hair and zippered clothing may have been cool in 1997, but it's 2014 and Final Fantasy needs to upgrade its fashion sense.

I was watching the new trailer and yeah... based on looks am I really supposed to care about these clowns? I mean it's like they're rejects from an emo convention. I know I shouldn't judge a book by its cover but come on...

jb Sep 22, 2014

Well, that's just Asian pop culture. I'm not a big fan of it either but I wouldn't expect a crazy shift any time soon. To create more western friendly characters would alienate the Asian markets, too.

The extended demo they showed seemed a little better to me. I'll continue to look forward to seeing how it plays out but this game is probably the only game that could get me to outright purchase a PS4 (at the moment).

Ashley Winchester Sep 22, 2014

Actually, speaking of FFXV have you heard some people are upset that [the player's party] was supposedly announced to be a total sausage fest?

That I don't get... I mean we had Final Fantasy X: Charlie's Angels Edition dripping with estrogen with X-2, we can't have a bromance with FFXV?

Amazingu Sep 22, 2014 (edited Sep 22, 2014)

Ashley Winchester wrote:

Actually, speaking of FFXV have you heard some people are upset that [the player's party] was supposedly announced to be a total sausage fest?

That I don't get... I mean we had Final Fantasy X: Charlie's Angels Edition dripping with estrogen with X-2, we can't have a bromance with FFXV?

Yeah, there's lots of series this criticism can be aimed at, but no numbered FF title (and very VERY few of the non-numbered ones) has ever been a sausage fest, and female characters in the series actually get treated as proper people to boot (except for X-2), so I don't think there's anything wrong with them doing an all-guys cast for once, since it fits the road trip theme.

student41269 Sep 23, 2014

It has been (and still is) such a frustrating wait for this game - I mean, what could they really have been doing with it all these years? - but I like what's been shown. The car could be a really nice touch, and takes me back to FFVIII somehow... memories of renting a car from Deling City and running out of petrol somewhere in the desert smile

Ashley Winchester Sep 23, 2014 (edited Sep 23, 2014)

student41269 wrote:

It has been (and still is) such a frustrating wait for this game - I mean, what could they really have been doing with it all these years?

Dude, this is Square Enix we're talking about. Asking those kinds of questions is dangerous. Your brain might explode trying to contemplate it.

But seriously, I doubt they'll ever be able to give us (or anyone) a satisfying answer to that question.

jb wrote:

...this game is probably the only game that could get me to outright purchase a PS4 (at the moment).

This pretty much. I would say KHIII as well but I'm never going to get around to playing I or II anyway.

Qui-Gon Joe Sep 23, 2014

Ashley Winchester wrote:

But seriously, I doubt they'll ever be able to give us (or anyone) a satisfying answer to that question.

Haven't they said repeatedly at this point that the game has been on hiatus for MOST of its "development" due to moving the developers onto FFXIII and then the reboot of XIV?  Recent interviews with Tabata indicate that full-scale work on it as a focused project has been going on for under 2 years.

Ashley Winchester Sep 23, 2014 (edited Sep 23, 2014)

Qui-Gon Joe wrote:
Ashley Winchester wrote:

But seriously, I doubt they'll ever be able to give us (or anyone) a satisfying answer to that question.

Haven't they said repeatedly at this point that the game has been on hiatus for MOST of its "development" due to moving the developers onto FFXIII and then the reboot of XIV?  Recent interviews with Tabata indicate that full-scale work on it as a focused project has been going on for under 2 years.

Not to act like a kid that wants his candy now (I'm not really that interested in the game because I've really had enough of SE's antics over the years) but... you consider that explanation satisfying? Not saying what you said is false, but maybe they should learn to not bite off more than they can chew or completely botch an ENTIRE game.

Amazingu Sep 24, 2014

Ashley Winchester wrote:

Not to act like a kid that wants his candy now (I'm not really that interested in the game because I've really had enough of SE's antics over the years) but... you consider that explanation satisfying? Not saying what you said is false, but maybe they should learn to not bite off more than they can chew or completely botch an ENTIRE game.

I think the only really unwise thing they did was to show off/announce the game so soon (back in 2006, was it?).
If you don't have anything else to show but a CG concept trailer, you should probably not show anything at all.

Shit happens though, and sometimes projects don't go the way you expect/want them to.
Can't really blame them for that.

Ashley Winchester Sep 24, 2014

Amazingu wrote:

I think the only really unwise thing they did was to show off/announce the game so soon (back in 2006, was it?).

Pretty much what I was trying to say before going off on a tangent... but really, I think the only reason this game was renamed was to renew interest in it. If it was still going by Final Fantasy Versus XIII people would still be convinced it was vaporware.

Ashley Winchester Sep 24, 2014

Amazingu wrote:
Qui-Gon Joe wrote:

Well the trailer has reinforced my opinion that whether the game turns out good or bad, the soundtrack will be freaking awesome.

Shimomura for life!

Speaking of Shimomura, man, she's going to have her hands full if she's composing for this and KHIII.

However, I do find the idea of a Shimomura scored FF alluring. If we can get something as great (IMO) as Legend of Mana...

I'd say Parasite Eve as well but that score has really lost a step or two with me in recent years.

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