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avatar! Feb 23, 2015

Yup.

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/former … 0-6425464/

"...the board rejected his idea for a Sega-Sony collaborative game console... "And from that moment on, I didn't feel they were capable of making the correct decisions in Japan any longer."  "

That about sums things up.

"Going forward, Sega will focus on PC and mobile games, while its future for console game development remains unclear."

Unclear? well, that's one way of putting it I suppose.

GoldfishX Feb 23, 2015

Tom Kalinske was basically THE guy who turned Sega's fortunes around in the US (Sega Scream, competitive pricing, packing in Sonic with the Genesis) and made the Japanese execs all envious of him, because the Genesis/Megadrive never did all that great in Japan. But remember in 1996, the Saturn was still a strong seller in Japan and Sony, while catching fire, wasn't the dominant player it would go on to be yet. So at least until Final Fantasy VII gave Sony the final decisive edge in Japan, I don't think a joint console would have been considered by the two.

I respect Kalinske, but his story goes against history and other interviews he's given.

avatar! Feb 25, 2015

GoldfishX wrote:

I respect Kalinske, but his story goes against history and other interviews he's given.

Please provide evidence.

GoldfishX Feb 25, 2015 (edited Feb 25, 2015)

http://www.sega-16.com/2006/07/interview-tom-kalinske/

Mostly this. I stand partially corrected because he DOES mention the Sony/Sega potential partnership, but he doesn't directly attribute it to being "the final straw". More like a natural advancement from the Sega CD. Also, he says that probably happened prior to the Nintendo/Sony/Phillips thing.

"Sega-16: That sounds a lot like what happened with the Sony/Nintendo CD-ROM. Sony was willing to enter into a joint hardware platform but was ultimately rejected by Nintendo in favor of Phillips.

Tom Kalinske: Yeah, but I think ours preceded that though.

Sega-16: So Sony essentially brought their ideas to the two big guns in the industry, only to be turned down and forced out on their own.

Tom Kalinske: Yeah, they had no choice in their mind, I’m sure. First, they tried to go with one of the two big companies and when that failed, well of course they have to go out on their own. And of course, they ended up benefiting tremendously because of that."

I just don't see him saying in 2006, "Sega of Japan poo-pooed the Sony alliance, so I'm out", so I think that is probably more of a half-truth than anything. He seems to be giving more weight to the fact that the technology that ended up in the N64 was first offered to Sega and Sega of Japan turned it down.

"Sega-16: So could that have perhaps caused them to exert more authority over how things were done? The inner rivalry that existed between the American and Japanese branches of Sega is legendary, and most believe that this, rather than any hardware decision, is what caused the company to lose its focus. Would you agree? How much do you think SOJ’s treatment of its U.S. branch hurt business?

Tom Kalinske: I think so. I don’t know how many different instances you know about, but what basically occurred (and I’m probably going to be a little fuzzy on the timing. Joe Miller could probably help you on that one) was that we all knew that there would come a day when the Genesis would no longer have a life, and we’d have to move on to the next technology. There was of course, a big debate as how best to go about that. When we started the CD-ROM efforts, clearly those were the early days of using optical discs for video games, and it was very rudimentary (a lot of it was even done in black & white back in those days), and the combination of live-action and real program software was very difficult.

I remember Joe Miller and I were talking about this, and we had been contacted by Jim Clark, the founder of SGI (Silicon Graphics Inc.), who called us up one day and said that he had just bought a company called MIPS Inc. which had been working on some things with some great R&D people, and it just so happened that they came up with a chip that they thought would be great for a video game console. We told them that in the U.S., we don’t really design consoles; we do the software, but it sounded interesting and we would come over and take a look at it. We were quite impressed, and we called up Japan and told them to send over the hardware team because these guys really had something cool. So the team arrived, and the senior VP of hardware design arrived, and when they reviewed what SGI had developed, they gave no reaction whatsoever. At the end of the meeting, they basically said that it was kind of interesting, but the chip was too big (in manufacturing terms), the throw-off rate would be too high, and they had lots of little technical things that they didn’t like: the audio wasn’t good enough; the frame rate wasn’t quite good enough, as well as some other issues.

So, the SGI guys went away and worked on these issues and then called us back up and asked that the same team be sent back over, because they had it all resolved. This time, Nakayama went with them. They reviewed the work, and there was sort of the same reaction: still not good enough.

Now, I’m not an engineer, and you kind of have to believe the people you have at the company, so we went back to our headquarters, and Nakayama said that it just wasn’t good enough. We were to continue on our own way. Well, Jim Clark called me up and asked what was he supposed to do now? They had spent all that time and effort on what they thought was the perfect video game chipset, so what were they supposed to do with it? I told them that there were other companies that they should be calling, because we clearly weren’t the ones for them. Needless to say, he did, and that chipset became part of the next generation of Nintendo products (N64).

So that’s an example of how, partly due to our success in America, Japan just didn’t want to do the things that we suggested."

Bottom line: The dude couldn't wait to get the hell away from Sega. Remembering how lousy the Saturn was faring, I can't say I blame him.

avatar! Feb 26, 2015

GoldfishX wrote:

Bottom line: The dude couldn't wait to get the hell away from Sega. Remembering how lousy the Saturn was faring, I can't say I blame him.

Yes, but again, I believe he couldn't wait to get away because of all the stupid decisions HQ in Japan was making.

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