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XLord007 Jul 2, 2008

Angela wrote:

Time to kick off another hotly-anticipated movie thread.  Quantum of Solace's first trailer premieres today:

http://www.moviefone.com/movie/quantum- … 26922/main

November 7th is so very, very far away. >_<;

So far, so good.  This by far my most anticipated film of the year, but that's probably not a surprise to any of you. ;-)

James O Jul 2, 2008

I'm definitely looking forward to this one... I have a Casino Royale poster up at work, but I want more than just the Quantum of Solace teaser poster to put it up in it's place... I hope they make that one soon...

Wanderer Oct 2, 2008

It doesn't sound much like a Bond song at all, a very uneasy combination of genres. But at least the Madonna song has competition. wink

Crystal Oct 5, 2008

I've hated everything Alicia Keys has ever done.
Thus, I hate this already.

Qui-Gon Joe Oct 6, 2008

I find it pretty obnoxious.  I listened just because of XLord's comparing it to two great Bond themes, both of which are leagues better than this.

XLord007 Oct 7, 2008 (edited Oct 7, 2008)

Qui-Gon Joe wrote:

both of which are leagues better than this.

Oh, no doubt.  I'm just saying that this sounds like a Bond theme.  It may or may not be good, but it sounds like a Bond theme to me.

Angela Oct 19, 2008

So, it looks like the Quantum of Solace Soundtrack is already available for download on UK iTunes -- and those jolly good folks have converted it for the rest of us to preview.  Check it out here.

I've given the score a once through, and it's an awesome listen even outside of context.  The album clocks in at just over an hour, and yes, it does include the vocal "Another Way To Die" this time around.  The sound is certainly akin to Arnold's work in Casino Royale: a strong mixing of frenetically dynamic action cues and low key "spy-like" mood pieces -- but this time there's a far more versatile mix of ethnic and stylistic instrument choices thrown in for good measure.  I've counted African percussion, Spanish flamenco acoustics, a pan flute (which seems to be a key motif for Camille) and rock guitar & percussion.

The Palio appears to supplant CR's African Rundown as the exciting new first big action set piece.  Tracks 7, 17, and 21 look to be the other big ones just by time length alone.  Arnold also references Vesper's Theme in a few nicely subtle places.  Track 9's Night At The Opera is probably my favorite track at the moment.  It combines what sounds like one of the central new main themes with a militaristic sensibility.

I'll definitely be picking up the U.S. release on October 28th.  This one's already a strong candidate for one of my favorite movie scores of the year.

Zane Oct 19, 2008

Angela wrote:

... and yes, it does include the vocal "Another Way To Die" ...

I just found the video on Youtube and heard the song for the first time. The song is very mediocre in its own right, but the chorus where Jack White and Alicia Keys are just singing at each other in the same tone is just bizarre. They could have used some harmony or something. Ah, another "rock" meets "R&B" hybrid from some record company mastermind - what else should I have expected? tongue

Angela Oct 30, 2008 (edited Oct 30, 2008)

A trickling of reviews have come out for the movie, which will no doubt turn into a flood once it releases in the UK this Friday.  The general consensus is that it's not quite as good as Casino Royale.  The elegance and style isn't as prevalent, and the story's pacing suffers from what could partly be attributed to the forty minutes shorter theatrical time.  The tone is more bleak, and the violence even stronger than CR; in fact, the movie is being strongly compared to a "Bourne" flick.  In addition to a few of the stunt-coordinators from said series on board, Craig's Bond is a much more colder and calculating character, the action sequences are far more frequent with little to no downtime, and there's a far greater globe-trotting flow to the entire film.  The most interesting comments state that by the end, the movie feels like the second part of what will likely end up being a trilogy.  There's no real end or closure to Bond's mission here in Quantum of Solace.

I'm torn.  On the one hand, it looks like this one's going to seriously deliver the goods on the action front.  But hearing that a lot of what made Casino Royale so good being stripped away is disappointing.  Guess we'll see.

jb Oct 30, 2008

Angela wrote:

A trickling of reviews have come out for the movie, which will no doubt turn into a flood once it releases in the UK this Friday.  The general consensus is that it's not quite as good as Casino Royale.  The elegance and style isn't as prevalent, and the story's pacing suffers from what could partly be attributed to the forty minutes shorter theatrical time.  The tone is more bleak, and the violence even stronger than CR; in fact, the movie is being strongly compared to a "Bourne" flick.  In addition to a few of the stunt-coordinators from said series on board, Craig's Bond is a much more colder and calculating character, the action sequences are far more frequent with little to no downtime, and there's a far greater globe-trotting flow to the entire film.  The most interesting comments state that by the end, the movie feels like the second part of what will likely end up being a trilogy.  There's no real end or closure to Bond's mission here in Quantum of Solace.

I'm torn.  On the one hand, it looks like this one's going to seriously deliver the goods on the action front.  But hearing that a lot of what made Casino Royale so good being stripped away is disappointing.  Guess we'll see.

imho there can be only one Casino Royale.  There is only one origination of James Bond.  Reading this made me happy, because going in I didn't want them to take Bond into a new direction (read: backwards).  It sounds like they are moving Bond from the previous movie, where they outlined his motives, his rationales and his entire demeanor to the Bond we all know and love.  The cool and calculated spy...  I guess he is not really "cold", per se, but maybe they are moving him in that direction and closure in a third movie will relieve him of whatever burdens he has in this one and the previous one. 

I, for one, am really looking forward to this. big_smile

Angela Oct 30, 2008

jb wrote:

imho there can be only one Casino Royale.  There is only one origination of James Bond.  Reading this made me happy, because going in I didn't want them to take Bond into a new direction (read: backwards).  It sounds like they are moving Bond from the previous movie, where they outlined his motives, his rationales and his entire demeanor to the Bond we all know and love.  The cool and calculated spy...  I guess he is not really "cold", per se, but maybe they are moving him in that direction and closure in a third movie will relieve him of whatever burdens he has in this one and the previous one.

That's what I'm hoping they're going for.  If this is to be a trilogy in the making, then it isn't a stretch to imagine Royale being the origin story, Solace the catalyst-driven second act, and third the final closure.  All the same, I'm just hoping that the mood and class of the first isn't so far removed from Solace that it feels like a completely alienating film.

Aside from Bond being cold and calculating, I've also seen the term "borderline psychotic" being batted around.  o_O

XISMZERO Oct 30, 2008

Although I'm stoked for Quantum, I had a recent conversation with a buddy of mine about how this doesn't even resemble a traditional Bond movie but more so like a trend of recent action "everyone's-out-to-get-me" flicks like the (ho-hum) Bourne Ultimatum. I hope once they end this Casino Royale II thing, they'll get back to classic Bond themes like outrageous villians and gadgets and for god save the queen's sake, bring back Q!

Angela Oct 30, 2008

XISMZERO wrote:

the (ho-hum) Bourne Ultimatum.

You've got no pulse, son.

XISMZERO Oct 31, 2008 (edited Oct 31, 2008)

Angela wrote:

You've got no pulse, son.

A one-man war machine paranoid frenzy movie that tried to take itself too seriously (and preachy) took what the original movie did over the edge. Ultimatum had me saying 'Give me a break'.

Angela Nov 4, 2008

XISMZERO wrote:

I hope once they end this Casino Royale II thing, they'll get back to classic Bond themes like outrageous villians and gadgets and for god save the queen's sake, bring back Q!

Mastidon from AICN, who has seen the film, brings up an interesting point about gadgets:

"I have seen a few comments about this film like "Bond is dead". Bond is definitely not dead, but the gadgets are. When Bond first appeared in the 60s, in order to achieve the computing power of my cell phone you would have needed a decent sized warehouse full of equipment. In the 70s and early '80s, high tech was still an infant and out of the hands of most consumers. The gadgets started going wrong when tech toys became common place in the home. Each film had to have more spectacular toys than the last in order to satisfy the fan base.

The problem is tech was moving too fast to make anything exciting and new. This all came to a head in a desperate attempt to stay ahead of the curve with the invisible car. But really, where else could they have gone? The car was their last ditch effort at toys and it clearly didn't work. This was the moment the gadgets died. Today they are demoted to background devices. Nothing too fancy, just a prop but certainly not part of the story. If anything they have become a Sony ad in a Bond film. They are dead, time to move on."

longhairmike Nov 11, 2008

I heard that the producers originally wanted to re-cast Sean Connery back into the role of James Bond,, but they scrapped that idea when they learned they would need to change the title of the movie to CARTON OF COLACE...

(colace is a brand of stool softener)

XLord007 Nov 13, 2008

Saw this at my local premiere tonight.  The premiere event was a lot of fun, but the movie was not.  I don't feel like writing a full review just yet, but to get straight to the point, there is very little that is right in this movie.  It doesn't feel like a Bond movie, it's herky-jerky, there's no pizzaz, and Marc Forster's lousy direction doesn't give you a chance to care about any of the characters because he's so busy trying to get the thing over with.  I'll write more after I've had more time to think about it, but for now, chalk this one up as wasted potential.

Amazingu Nov 13, 2008

longhairmike wrote:

I heard that the producers originally wanted to re-cast Sean Connery back into the role of James Bond,, but they scrapped that idea when they learned they would need to change the title of the movie to CARTON OF COLACE...

(colace is a brand of stool softener)

Yeah, it's much funnier when you have to explain it...

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