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Stephen Sep 29, 2008

Has anybody listened to this album?  I'm trying to determine if I should get this album or not.
http://vgmdb.net/album/9318

Is it more like VP Silmeria Arranged (less synth emphasis) or Star Ocean Arranged (more synth emphasis)?

Herrkotowski Sep 29, 2008

It's definitely more prog rock focused, with a few non-prog rock arrangements on it.

Stephen Sep 29, 2008

Need a little more information on this, as he has done progressive rock with a lot of synth and not so much synth.

Bernhardt Sep 29, 2008

Always check RPG Fan.com's soundtrack section for soundtrack samples and reviews for RPG soundtracks; CD Japan sometimes posts samples for items, too; YouTube can also be a good source, as you can get the music backed with gameplay footage, or someone might put up the music with a still background.

Link for Tales Battle Arrange: http://www.rpgfan.com/soundtracks/to-se … index.html

Stephen Sep 30, 2008 (edited Sep 30, 2008)

Thanks for the information, Bernhardt.

Stephen Sep 30, 2008

Nice video coverage there, Xanadujin.  I got the samples I needed from CDJapan, though.

Unfortunately, RPGFan uses Real Media, which I cannot play.

Smeg Sep 30, 2008

Real Networks is the devil, but Real Alternative is your friend.

Stephen Oct 1, 2008

Smeg wrote:

Real Networks is the devil, but Real Alternative is your friend.

Good to know, but I think that player is Windows only.  I am running a Mac.

Smeg Oct 1, 2008

Stephen wrote:
Smeg wrote:

Real Networks is the devil, but Real Alternative is your friend.

Good to know, but I think that player is Windows only.  I am running a Mac.

It's not a player, it's a codec. I know nothing about using it with Mac software though.

Jodo Kast Oct 5, 2008

I tend to immediately enjoy arranged albums by Motoi Sakuraba, but the Tales of Series Battle Arrange is different. I do not like it. It is difficult to enjoy. Maybe with more exposure I can find something of interest here.

Stephen Oct 6, 2008

I looked at the tracklist, and I haven't played half the games that got featured on it.

XISMZERO Oct 6, 2008

I suppose it's not too far from Sakuraba's fare. This is one of those arrangement albums one can't entirely enjoy without playing the game thereby knowing the musics. I couldn't pass much judgment beyond that though. The only track that stuck out with me was "Inferia Battle", a somewhat down-tempo, moody piece.

Personally, I think Sakuraba is best when he's playing with more of an orchestra (and my personal favorite: "Mission to the Deep Space" from Star Ocean Til The End of Time) rather than his eclectric solo keyboarding and organing.

Datschge Oct 6, 2008 (edited Oct 6, 2008)

I personally love the album, for me it works really well as a whole with the given track order, lengths and the style and instrumentation variety between them. To me it's the most fresh Sakuraba arrange album since Valkyrie Profile Voice Mix.

Only issue I can see for people usually liking Sakuraba and his retro synths (Fender Rhodes Mark I <3 <3 <3) are the possible expectations due to the misleading title of it: "Battle Arrange" in this case doesn't refer to the style used on the album but rather to the original use of the compositions in the games. A whole album arranged like battle tracks would most certainly sound different from this.

Razakin Oct 6, 2008

Piano arrange mops the floor with this pathetic battle arrange, which even didn't include a new arrange for Fighting of the Spirit. And somehow the whole album lacked something, or then, I've grown out of Tales-Sakuraba. But I hope he start jugging out piano albums, those tend be damn good.

KujaFFman Oct 6, 2008

Razakin wrote:

which even didn't include a new arrange for Fighting of the Spirit.

I guess Sakuraba only wanted to arrange his own compositions.

I think this is a very good album, especially since Sakuraba sometimes made very surprising arrangements where one would expect powerful progressive rock (Inferia Battle, for instance, is unexpected!). It reminds me of his older progressive works, which I like a lot more than his current orchestral style.

I was a bit disappointed with the Piano Arrange, though. I was expecting something as brilliant as Forest of glass, so... Well, I think this album is a bit feeble.

Razakin Oct 6, 2008

KujaFFman wrote:

I guess Sakuraba only wanted to arrange his own compositions.

Oh, it's not his composition? Weird, but then, maybe Tamura has done something good. :P

Datschge Oct 6, 2008

Razakin wrote:

maybe Tamura has done something good. tongue

Plenty popular Tales tracks are his, the ones I have confirmations for are these: (ToP:) Arche, Be Absentminded, Bright Moonlight Night, Fighting of the Spirit, (ToD2:) A Resolution, Coup de Grace, Reala, The Dreadnought, (ToS:) Town of a Wind and Ruins, (TotA:) Wish and sadness. Additionally ToS' Fatalize is credited to him on the Japanese Wikipedia (and is his style alright), but I haven't seen any official confirmation of this. (Tamura is usually generally credited for doing the character and dungeon themes.)

These Tales of Series albums are most likely TEAM Entertaiment/Taku Kitahara granting Sakuraba's wish of being able/paid to make arrangements of his works (but BKO doesn't get this treatment, probably wouldn't be profitable for TEAM *shrugs*). Neither Bandai Namco nor Tales Studio seem to be involved at all outside licensing personels going by the staff credits, so the albums barely are mentioned on their website, and of course the selection is by Sakuraba and works by other composers are omitted.

Of the Piano Arrange I'm loving Desert and Burning Tower, the arrangements of super short title pieces like Tales of Destiny 2 and The Dawn of Departure are greatly and nicely extended, the others are between good and to be expected for a Sakuraba Tales piano pieces. The Answer (my favourite in-game piece from ToR) is wtf worthy. And Surprise Attack! is actually an arrangement of Sink into Vise.

Smeg Oct 6, 2008

I like the piano arrange album better myself. It's a bit surprising that such a badass pianist hadn't released a piano album before now.

Herrkotowski Oct 6, 2008

Smeg wrote:

I like the piano arrange album better myself. It's a bit surprising that such a badass pianist hadn't released a piano album before now.

He released Forest of Glass in January of this year. I find that to be a spectacular album. The piano arrange for Tales was lackluster in comparison, but still enjoyable.

Smeg Oct 7, 2008

Herrkotowski wrote:
Smeg wrote:

I like the piano arrange album better myself. It's a bit surprising that such a badass pianist hadn't released a piano album before now.

He released Forest of Glass in January of this year. I find that to be a spectacular album. The piano arrange for Tales was lackluster in comparison, but still enjoyable.

Damn, I totally forgot all about that one. Still, that was recent as well. I wonder: did Sakuraba lack the confidence to release a piano album previously? Or did he just lack the interest? His primary approach to arrange albums had always been to go completely over the top. Now that the technology allows for his soundtracks to sound more or less just like his arrange albums, it makes sense to me for him to release albums in a more deconstructive style. I think that has something to do with why I'm enjoying the piano arrange so much more than the battle arrange.

XLord007 Oct 7, 2008

Razakin wrote:

which even didn't include a new arrange for Fighting of the Spirit.

A Tales battle arrange not having Fighting of the Spirit is like a Final Fantasy battle arrange not having the boss battle theme from FF4.  Oh, wait...

Moses Oct 8, 2008

Smeg wrote:

I wonder: did Sakuraba lack the confidence to release a piano album previously? Or did he just lack the interest?

He lacked the piano. smile

Chris Oct 8, 2008

He uses a Bösendorfer 225 but do we know for sure that he bought it recently?

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