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Crystal Mar 28, 2010

Ok.  I saw both trailers.  Definite must see.
And of course, the part where Barbie meets Ken made me laugh so hard. Harder than looking at Ken's "loud" shirt, unposeable legs.

I'm going to venture a guess on how Toy Story 3 is going to end.

Guess
After the group survive their ordeal at the daycare (maybe the new triceratops will go be with Rex) and get back to Andy, time will pass, and the toys will get passed on to Andy's new baby.
End Guess

There's been some talk that Ken is going to be a bad guy. I seriously doubt that Mattel would let their Intellectual Property be used in a non-positive way, although there was one quick flash of Barbie ripping Ken's bandanna off his neck. 
If there were to be a villian in this movie,  it'd probably be one of the Pixar original characters.




By the way, I met an IP lawyer who works for Sega.
He told me that they had to pay Olympics Committe so they could make an official Olympic game. Was that only the Mario & Sonic winter game?
Then he started talking about Sega characters.
He's SO smart but he doesn't play games so he didn't even know half the characters he represents. 

Lawyer: "There's this character a monkey with a hat and we had to get a licensing deal to use music for the game.  Hmm..  I forget the name of the guy"

Me: "umm. maybe that's from Samba de amigo."

Lawyer: "Yeah, I think that's right. Hey maybe you should work for Sega."

;p

Angela Mar 29, 2010

Crystal wrote:

And of course, the part where Barbie meets Ken made me laugh so hard. Harder than looking at Ken's "loud" shirt, unposeable legs.

This is gonna be the year of the ascot.  Mark my words.

GoldfishX Mar 29, 2010

There was "Vancouver 2012", but it looks about as exciting as it sounds. And no Curling. Bastards...

longhairmike Mar 29, 2010

i remember being dragged to see toy story 1 on a date,,, but i eventually got even by taking her to see Bio-dome...

Ashley Winchester Mar 30, 2010

longhairmike wrote:

i remember being dragged to see toy story 1 on a date,,, but i eventually got even by taking her to see Bio-dome...

I'm sorry, that's not getting even. That's knock-down, drag-out revenge.

Angela Jun 16, 2010

Looks like Toy Story 3's currently riding high on the RT Tomatometer.  In light of the first and second's perfect scores, we're all bracing for that one review that may break the perfect 100% streak across all three films.

A retrospective viewing of the first two movies is definitely in order before Friday.  Can't wait to see if this will dethrone How To Train Your Dragon as the better piece of animation this year.

Crystal Jun 16, 2010 (edited Jun 23, 2010)

I've already googled on it.

Back in March or so, there was a screening for movie theater owners and most of them cried.  That only fueled my interest in knowing the ending.
So when I was in the bookstore the other day and saw the junior novel, I just couldn't stop myself from looking.

If you look closely in the trailer, there's a Totoro on the left when Woody is looking at the PC screen. I missed that the first time, I saw the trailer.

Regarding How to train your dragon, I liked it a lot.
The ending was fitting.
I love when Hiccup says in the accent,  "Excuse me, barmaid! I believe you've brought me the wrong offspring! i wanted an EXTRA-large boy with BEEFY arms, extra GUTS and GLORY on the side! This here, this is a talking fishbone!"

HAHAHa!

Idolores Jun 17, 2010

I'm there. As an avid toy collector, the movies appeal to my sensibilities and have such creative drive that I was nothing but entranced.

The second definitely feels weaker than the first, but it's by no means bad. I really can't wait for this movie. big_smile

Angela Jun 19, 2010

A question was presented recently on this board: "Did we need a Toy Story 3?"  A valid inquiry, for sure..... but after viewing the first two movies again, and then taking in the third last night, I'm going to say, "Yes. We absolutely did."  There was a wonderful flow between the first and second films, a natural progression that made the latter's existence justified.  It might have been harder to sell another sequel if it had come any sooner, but after more than ten years, Toy Story 3's sense of finality and closure, told in one last, great adventure for our band of toys, feels time-appropriate and very much worth experiencing.

The interesting thing about the movie is the natural flow of time.  The passage of time since Toy Story 2's release is more or less mirrored here.  Andy's seventeen and heading off to college, Molly's in her preteens, and even Buster, once a lively pup of a dog, is now old, graying, and physically exhausted.  Woody and the gang are coming to terms with where they belong, time's passage taking its toll on their usefulness.  Much of the movie is dealt with the grappling of where they should belong, and "Getting home to Andy" no longer carries the same implication as it did before.  Along the way, new friendships are forged, and a renewed sense of mutual understanding is met.  These central themes are no strangers to the series, but they're handled as deftly as ever.

I speak in broad terms, since I don't want to risk spoiling the plot.  Fun throwbacks and Easter eggs are plentiful, and the core cast all have plenty to do.  This is the first time, however, that there's villainy amongst toys, and Sunnyside Daycare plays host to this civil war battlefield.  The climax toward the end will surely be talked about for years to come; you'll know it when you see it, but the gravity of the scene in question may end up being the most hauntingly suspenseful to show up in cinemas this year.  The denouement is equally affecting, a wind-down period that caps off the trilogy in a bittersweet but satisfying manner.

Voice acting is, as usual, spot-on.  I think it was great that they were able to get John Morris back as Andy, he himself now an adult.  Blake Clark does an absolutely convincing job replicating the late Jim Varney as Slinky The Dog, the vocal differences between the two being little to none.  Of the new characters, Ned Beatty and Michael Keaton have the meatiest roles as Lotso and Ken respectively.  Jodi Benson, too, has a surprisingly extensive part as Barbie.

If there are flaws in the film, they're far and few in between.  The first is that one character's central motive is cut a bit too closely from the same cloth as a character from Toy Story 2.  You'll almost certainly see the parallel when you get to the flashback, and somehow, it feels like the treading of old ground as a result.  The other is the soundtrack.  Outside of "You've Got A Friend In Me", Randy Newman's music for the series have never really stood out.  At best, they're incidental scores, befitting of the onscreen action, but bereft of any sort of thematic anchoring or memorable instances.  Toy Story 3 is no exception, and where the second movie at least featured Sarah McLachlan's lovely "When Somebody Loved Me", Newman's self-performed "We Belong Together" feels like Newman on autopilot.  The score as a whole is a particular let-down after the robust and lively The Princess and the Frog.  On the plus side, there's a brand new version of You've Got A Friend In Me by the Gipsy Kings that will likely turn heads. smile

How To Train Your Dragon set an unimaginably lofty standard for animations this year, so I don't feel bad for placing Toy Story 3 a close second.  To its ultimate credit, this is a Toy Story film through and through, and top-shelf Pixar all the way.  Unlike the weighty outings of 2008's Wall•E and 2009's Up, they've managed to find a better compromise between joyous fun and emotional sensibilities, not to mention crafting a pitch-perfect finale for this legendary series.

Ashley Winchester Jun 20, 2010

Angela wrote:

A question was presented recently on this board: "Did we need a Toy Story 3?"

You can at least refer to me by name >_> - j/k

The movie does seem to be getting a lot of buzz; still, I believe too many companies smash their IP's with the sequel shovel.

SonicPanda Jun 20, 2010

Ashley Winchester wrote:

The movie does seem to be getting a lot of buzz;

*ba dum tshh*

still, I believe too many companies smash their IP's with the sequel shovel.

From what I've read, Pixar agreed to make TS3 because otherwise Disney was going to hire another company to do Disney's draft, which involved Buzz getting recalled to Taiwan for a manufacturing defect. Considering this was around the time they crapped out Chicken Little, there's no reason to assume it wouldn't have been terrible.

I still need to see TS2.

Jay Jun 20, 2010

I loved Toy Story 2. A real surprise - I felt it reached far higher than the original and was generally a great movie. I'm really looking forward to seeing 3, especially having seen the line-up of toys involved. Hoping it won't disappoint but I'm hearing good things.

Although I went to watch the first after not having seen it in years and had to turn it off - the human character designs are hideous and really freaked my daughter out. I do remember them being the one thing I disliked about the movie back in the day but the passage of time seems to have made that much worse. Going from Up back to Toy Story 1 was a real shock, yet the toys still look (and move) pretty great.

I complained when Knick Knack got the revisionist treatment, losing the breasts, but I'd be all for replacing the human designs in Toy Story 1 with something more pleasant. They were better in 2, right? I haven't seen that in years either.

Very much looking forward to 3.

Angela Jun 21, 2010 (edited Jul 11, 2010)

Angela wrote:

Looks like Toy Story 3's currently riding high on the RT Tomatometer.  In light of the first and second's perfect scores, we're all bracing for that one review that may break the perfect 100% streak across all three films.

Appears the movie's settling in at an overall rating of 98%, the same as How To Train Your Dragon.  Kudos to both Pixar and Dreamworks for making such incredible films this year.

EDIT: Check that.  Looks like Toy Story 3's set in stone at 99%.

Crystal wrote:

If you look closely in the trailer, there's a Totoro on the left when Woody is looking at the PC screen. I missed that the first time, I saw the trailer.

Yeah, Totoro is a huge presence, even if he's only in a select few sequences.  Ghibli love in the toy house, for sure.

Ashley Winchester wrote:

You can at least refer to me by name >_> - j/k

Yes, I could've.  I just wasn't sure if you wanted to be singled out that way. :)

Boco Jun 22, 2010

I just got back from Toy Story 3 and I loved it. I had some concerns going in, but Pixar delivered yet again. I think it's high time I stopped doubting them. However, I do hope that their next film doesn't make me cry. My manliness license is already in danger of being suspended and the last thing I need is to be seen crying at the theater. XD Seriously though, the film was really great. I found it really interesting that the time gap between Toy Story 2 and 3 was about the same both in real life and in the story. As was mentioned earlier, this was literally the perfect time for this film to be made.

For me, Toy Story 3 is an easy 5 out of 5 and a definite contender for best animated film of 2010. It's hard for me to pick between this and How To Train Your Dragon as they were both excellent. That said, I think I'm leaning slightly towards Toy Story 3 at the moment. The nostalgia and closure really bring a lot to the table.

On a side note, did anyone else see the trailer for Disney's Tangled? And did anyone else think it was a terrible idea for Disney to feature it in front of Toy Story 3? I mean the difference in quality was almost palpable. The Princess and the Frog gave me hope that they were moving in the right direction again, but that hope is quickly vanishing.

Angela Jun 22, 2010

Boco wrote:

On a side note, did anyone else see the trailer for Disney's Tangled? And did anyone else think it was a terrible idea for Disney to feature it in front of Toy Story 3? I mean the difference in quality was almost palpable. The Princess and the Frog gave me hope that they were moving in the right direction again, but that hope is quickly vanishing.

I've actually got high hopes for Tangled, on the basis that it's being directed by Byron Howard.  Howard was responsible for Bolt, one of the better CG-animated films to come out in recent years, I thought.  John Lasseter's producing as well, plus we're getting a new Alan Menken score!

Crystal Jun 22, 2010

SonicPanda wrote:
Ashley Winchester wrote:

The movie does seem to be getting a lot of buzz;

*ba dum tshh*

still, I believe too many companies smash their IP's with the sequel shovel.

From what I've read, Pixar agreed to make TS3 because otherwise Disney was going to hire another company to do Disney's draft, which involved Buzz getting recalled to Taiwan for a manufacturing defect. Considering this was around the time they crapped out Chicken Little, there's no reason to assume it wouldn't have been terrible.

Was the whole Disney hiring another company to make TS3 before or after Disney bought Pixar?
I thought Disney was only in charge of distribution, marketing and licensing.
If before, I didn't know that Disney could make a TS3 without permission.
If it was after, Disney could make Pixar do whatever they wanted.
But it seems to me that Disney is being depicted as "greedy" or bullyish for wanting to make TS3 without Pixar then.

That draft about Buzz going to Taiwan sounds like Toy Story 2.3 or a story for Toy Story the Cartoon Series. It's not something effective for a movie.  More like IP suicide.

Disney's really good at marketing though.  I'm seeing the toys, goods, and books everywhere.

Boco Jun 22, 2010

Angela wrote:

John Lasseter's producing as well, plus we're getting a new Alan Menken score!

Interesting! I actually haven't seen Bolt yet, although it did look promising. It sounds like you would recommend it, correct? As for Tangled, I still think it looks awful, but I didn't realize who was working on it and I have been fooled by trailers in the past. Perhaps I'll keep on eye on it to see how it turns out.

SonicPanda Jun 23, 2010

Crystal wrote:

Was the whole Disney hiring another company to make TS3 before or after Disney bought Pixar?
I thought Disney was only in charge of distribution, marketing and licensing.
If before, I didn't know that Disney could make a TS3 without permission.
If it was after, Disney could make Pixar do whatever they wanted.
But it seems to me that Disney is being depicted as "greedy" or bullyish for wanting to make TS3 without Pixar then.

Apparently in the original limited deal, Disney retained rights over any sequels to Pixar's work, so that if they wanted to make say, a Buzz Lightyear animated series, they wouldn't need Pixar's involvement or permission to do so. As it stands now, Disney can still order sequels, but Pixar would be in charge of making them. In addition to TS3, Disney asked for Cars 2, largely because they have made and continue to make a killing off of Cars-related merchandise (on the other hand, it seems Monsters, Inc. 2 was greenlit to fill a void because Pixar themselves pulled the plug on a project of their own called 'Newt').
I don't mean to paint Disney as particularly ruthless...at least, no moreso than any other animation studio. But this was just a particularly ugly story coming from the negotiations to extend their partnership.

Boco wrote:

I actually haven't seen Bolt yet, although it did look promising. It sounds like you would recommend it, correct?

Can't speak for Angela, but I'd certainly recommend it. It's so far ahead of Chicken Little it's crazy (haven't seen Meet the Robinsons so I can't compare).
I'll keep an eye out and hopes up for Tangled, but
A, I wish it were hand-drawn - hell, Facilier's animation alone in PatF puts everything Disney has done thus far in CG to shame,
and B, the title makes it seem like it's cut of the same cloth as that Hoodwinked flick from a few years back, and I hope that's not the case.

Crystal Jun 24, 2010

SonicPanda wrote:

Apparently in the original limited deal, Disney retained rights over any sequels to Pixar's work, so that if they wanted to make say, a Buzz Lightyear animated series, they wouldn't need Pixar's involvement or permission to do so. As it stands now, Disney can still order sequels, but Pixar would be in charge of making them. In addition to TS3, Disney asked for Cars 2, largely because they have made and continue to make a killing off of Cars-related merchandise (on the other hand, it seems Monsters, Inc. 2 was greenlit to fill a void because Pixar themselves pulled the plug on a project of their own called 'Newt').
I don't mean to paint Disney as particularly ruthless...at least, no moreso than any other animation studio. But this was just a particularly ugly story coming from the negotiations to extend their partnership.

Yeah the comment wasn't directed at you. Just the situation.  It really puts Disney in a bad light, even though I can understand their rights to the sequels. Had no idea that Cars would be merchandising heaven for them.
Cars 2, and Incredibles 2 might work and might be good.
Some sequels not. For example UP 2.

Right now, I can't even imagine what a Monsters Inc 2 film's plot would be. :s

Idolores Jan 8, 2011

Just finished downloading and watching in glorious 1080p. Definitely a great sendoff for what is inarguably Pixar's crown jewel.

The totoro cameo was nice, too.

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