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The Rumor Mill

This is a thread where we talk about all the hype and rumors and megatons of gaming.

Right now there is a rumor about a Starfox x Metroid Wii U game.

- Some folk at Retro Studios wanted to develop a new ip that involved 3rd person sci-fi action with intense aerial combat.
- Others apparently were leaning towards taking the Star Fox helm.
- Nintendo sees Retro Studios as a very competent developer and worked with them in creating the hybrid title of Star Fox – Metroid: Fusion Saga.
- The title has multiple gameplay mechanics and needed a wide staff of talent to incorporate the many ideas.
- The story begins as you control Fox McCloud and the Star Fox team on deep space mission in your Arwing, flying through a Meteos-like stage. As you enter a light speed warp, there’s a collision with an orange ship (Samus’) and the game continues with you now plummeting to a planet as Samus in her craft. You’re in mild control of her ship, using the Wii U controller to look around and touch screen press the lit up buttons to prepare for impact (while the TV stays locked on what you see out of the cockpit). You’re now on land, as a “yet again” stripped down Samus Aran with the most basic of weapon abilities, in first person perspective, traversing through this unknown planet.
- The game switches off between intense Arwing space and planetary battles as Fox makes his way to the planet that Samus crashed on and a Metroid Prime-like experience of gameplay as Samus on this planet, gradually uncovering its mysteries, leveling up, etc.
- The Star Fox stages represent what the series is best known for, including the chatter and coming to the aid of the rest of your team, all range mode battles, and on rails stages.
- The Metroid part of the game puts you alone, void of human or any talking character contact, and like the Prime series, sees you gaining upgrades, battling bosses, and in this case, repairing your ship.
- The game is said to be epic in size, scope, ambition.
- The pacing has been perfected to not interrupt what the feeling is behind either franchise, since Star Fox is more often known for being acceptable to have short sessions with and Metroid rather the opposite. You can opt to continue playing either just Samus’ part or Fox’s part without crossing over for much of the main game (or play it as it’s scripted back and forth), but will eventually have to complete both, as the characters will ultimately meet up.
- There will be later parts in the game where you do get to control Samus’ ship and fly it Star Fox style.
- Likewise, Fox McCloud will be controllable by foot (both the above and this bullet point represent a period in the game after the two sides meet up) and be played via 3rd person perspective. Think of Jet Force Gemini with Fox’s known agility as he’s portrayed to having in the Smash Bros. series. (Fox will move more like Ryu Hayabusa from Ninja Gaiden and less like he did in Star Fox Adventures).
- Though a tentative title, the idea behind the story of “Fusion Saga” is both a play on the fact that the two series are fusing together into one game and of course, a storyline behind Andross using Metroids to enhance himself, his army, etc.
- Star Fox – Metroid: Fusion Saga is wholly a satisfying adventure game as Samus, an equally electrifying aerial combat game as Fox, and something that delivers an exciting, special change that fans will love.
- In consideration was the Star Fox portion having 4 player co-op online, but instead the game will have leaderboards for time and percent complete for all parts of the game and multiplayer will be simply versus mode based.

This is all that I got. None of this is confirmed…it’s purely a RUMOR, but I put it up because 1) it’s the closest I’ve gotten in 13 months to finding ANYTHING on what Retro Studios might be working on and 2) the source at hand gave me reason to believe that this was at the very least, a concept being pitched around between Nintendo and Retro Studios.

source: http://paulgalenetwork.com/home/2012/05 … sion-saga/

If I want to be negative I would say this would not work as it breaks immersion and adventure of Metroid and sounds like some crappy Wii sports mishmash launch game to show off the controller's capabilities. Buttttt Retro Studios is a great company.

If I want to be positive I would say that this is an awesome partner dynamic that would make a great action game. Retro would have to learn from Team Ninja's botched Metroid job by making every fight encounter potentially your last fight -- serious action like Ninja Gaiden 2 (360). They could tailor it speedy like Other M where you run through a lot of corridors with the Sonic-like (holding right) and platforming bits. Or they could do the over-the-shoulder camera RE4 stuff. A Metroid game that played like RE4. mmm.

I do think Nintendo would do something like this though. They'd advertise it as some sort-of 'two in one' game deal.

Last edited by vert1 (May 21, 2012)

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vert1 wrote:

Or they could do the over-the-shoulder camera RE4 stuff. A Metroid game that played like RE4.

vert1 wrote:

If I want to be negative I would say this would not work as it breaks immersion and adventure of Metroid.

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It does seem absurd to have Metroid+StarFox+Resident Evil 4 turn into something bad. (It's not like someone wasn't thinking RE4 when they did that shoulder camera segment in Other M.) The basic premise of Resident Evil is like Metroid: you are alone and must slowly uncover the world/rooms around you. When you meet up with your partner and shoot it out it feels great because now you finally have some help. If Retro just copies that basic atmosphere and throws in backup moments (ala helicopter pilot Mike in RE4) with Fox providing Samus aerial cover it could be fantastic. You could use the touch pad to navigate your partner to bomb certain enemies (think Wind Waker GBA link 2-player).

I would prefer separate titles, but I can live with this. Cross titles are all the rage now. I really hated and felt embarrassed as a Nintendo fan watching Brawl's cutscnene's and this seems like something straight out of that. I would like the cutscenes to be like Namco x Capcom with simple text (if voices added then use the SNES StarFox chatter).

This will lead to more Nintendo fusion titles and that's exciting.

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Starfox in my Metroid? Seems that Nintendo really wants to destroy this IP, first there was Other M, and now rumours like this? Good shit Nintendo. Thankfully you can't destroy my memories of Super Metroid, Metroid Fusion and Zero Mission ever. And thank god(s)/mysticalbeings/whateveryouworship that I can play those.

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Razakin wrote:

Starfox in my Metroid?

ill bet one of the marketing execs was eating a reese's peanut butter cup when they came up with this idea...

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longhairmike wrote:
Razakin wrote:

Starfox in my Metroid?

ill bet one of the marketing execs was eating a reese's peanut butter cup when they came up with this idea...

You put the lime in the coconut, and turn it all around, you put the lime in the coconut and turn it all around...

Whatever happened to Pepsi Black, anyway? hmm (Besides it being completely phased out? I never even got to taste the stuff before they discontinued it).

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Dartannian wrote:

Whatever happened to Pepsi Black, anyway? hmm (Besides it being completely phased out? I never even got to taste the stuff before they discontinued it).

You referring to this stuff? It was interesting while it lasted. Remember buying a lot of it way back, actually.

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Star Fox is Nintendo's weakest, worst IP and should be abandoned. The "lore" is laughable, the characters are ridiculous, and the quality of the games is more miss than hit (two good games out of five, not counting remakes and unreleased titles). To even suggest that Star Fox should be mixed with Metroid (outside of SSB) is blasphemous, and I sincerely hope that this rumor is false.

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An anonymous tipster told ZI that Nintendo is in the process of trying to get Rare back from Microsoft. The tipster claims that Nintendo’s main purpose for doing so is to acquire the rights to the Banjo-Kazooie franchise. Apparently, the negotiation – between Nintendo and Microsoft – has been going on for quite some time and Retro Studios is deep into development on a Banjo-Kazooie game. Are these rumors too good to be true?

source: http://www.zeldainformer.com/news/comme … -banjo-and

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vert1 wrote:

An anonymous tipster told ZI that Nintendo is in the process of trying to get Rare back from Microsoft. The tipster claims that Nintendo’s main purpose for doing so is to acquire the rights to the Banjo-Kazooie franchise. Apparently, the negotiation – between Nintendo and Microsoft – has been going on for quite some time and Retro Studios is deep into development on a Banjo-Kazooie game. Are these rumors too good to be true?

source: http://www.zeldainformer.com/news/comme … -banjo-and

Banjo what? How about Eternal Darkness 2...

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avatar! wrote:

Banjo what? How about Eternal Darkness 2...

Awwwww yeah! big_smile

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I feel like even if they were interested in making a new Banjo game, they'd be better off just buying the IP rights rather than Rare itself.  What exactly is the studio itself worth now that Microsoft has done what it has to it?

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avatar! wrote:

Banjo what? How about Eternal Darkness 2...

Considering the abysmal state that Silicon Knights is in, I have little hope left for that series.

It would be nice if Nintendo could get Banjo Kazooie back and have Retro make a new game in the series.
God knows Rare are just a hollow husk of their former selves.

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