Razakin wrote: Bernhardt wrote:
And even if I have a designated driver, if I'm drunk, or at least have consumed alcohol, that reflects badly on them, and a cop could easily just say that I was the one behind the wheel, even when I really wasn't, especially if my friend is an especially bad driver, even if he hasn't consumed alcohol. After all, a person can be nailed for just having consumed alcohol; they don't need to be DRUNK.
I wonder how the police could even prove that you would be the one driving? Especially if would have designated driver. Unless the laws are totally out of hands in America.
It's not that hard to switch drivers, without the cop seeing you do it, if you get pulled over. Which is why, in all of their cynicism, is why that's what they're going to assume.
Cops don't need to prove SHIT if they can have a judge who's willing to agree with them.
Common process of thought these days is that drinking in general is the devil, and if they can make an example of someone, nail them to wall, they're going to, whether that was actually the case or not; you just need a cop who's willing to nail someone, a jury who's going to believe the fear mongering that a prosecutor sets forth, and a judge who's willing to agree with all three.
But really, how someone's life can be ruined if his/hers drivers license is gone for good?
How you gonna get to classes/work without a mode of transportation? Taxi cabs are more expensive than having your own car, and public transportation (buses and trains) aren't always reliable, and still leave you having to walk where you need to go some ways.
And why we should be sorry for him? Drunk driving is so bloody irresponsible think, that I can't symphatize at all with people who do it.
Because the same thing could happen to you. And most people aren't aware on the consequences of drunk driving because people are clueless. But if they were aware of the consequences, then even in all their stupidity, they would be less likely to do it.
I too would like to know how the police could say you were drunk driving and your friend took over when
a)all police vehicles carry cameras which monitor exactly what happens
b)how could you quickly switch seats in a car in a matter of seconds?
c)you can NOT be arrested because your friends are drunk!
d)in fact, you can't even be pulled over unless they have probable reason (open container, speeding, crossing lanes, etc)
A) Their camera may or may not be able to see inside your vehicle, especially at nighttime.
B) NOT THAT HARD TO SWITCH SEATS BEFORE THE COP COMES TO YOUR VEHICLE.
C) It's a little thing that cops like to call "Guilty by Association."
D) True, but if you're lousy driver SOBER, than you have a problem.
I have some good friends who always have a beer or two when we're in a restaurant, and an hour or two later they're off on the road going home. Never an incident, never a problem. Why? because one or two beers does not make a drunk. People drink in public all the time! You have to know your limits. Now, if someone wants to get wasted, go ahead. Just don't expect any sympathy if you're caught drunk driving. It's your own damn fault, no excuses, no blaming cops, the laws, society, whatever...
Even if you're not drunk, you can still be arrested if you get pulled over, even if you've only had one ot two beers; your BAC only has to be over 0.2 to get you arrested, and if you've had ANY alcohol, your BAC is DEFINITELY going to be over 0.2
Again, I don't condone drunk driving, but it's become more of a witch hunt, that the motives have gone from noble to fear. And fear makes people act irrationally.