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Angela Feb 15, 2008

Figure I'd kick off a thread for the hotly-anticipated sequel with the release of the first teaser trailer. 

Official site:
http://www.indianajones.com/site/index.html

Downloadable HD versions of the teaser trailer:
http://www.killermovies.com/i/indianajones4/

Glad to see they're keeping the trademark Indy humor in, but those CG effects are looking distractingly heavy.  (This is Lucas, after all.)  Ford still looks like he's got the acting chops -- both characteristically and physically -- to fill out the role.

Qui-Gon Joe Feb 15, 2008

Angela wrote:

Glad to see they're keeping the trademark Indy humor in, but those CG effects are looking distractingly heavy.  (This is Lucas, after all.)

From everything I've read, Spielberg seems to be intent on keeping the CG to an absolute minimum, and he's also keeping Lucas in check.  I seem to recall him responding to someone talking about what Lucas wanted with the movie with "Lucas isn't the director.  I am" or something to that effect.  In any case, I am TOTALLY pumped about this movie.  Marion being in it is like a fanboy dream come true.  My only disappointments so far are the lack of other returning characters.   Obviously we can't have Marcus back because Denholm Elliot passed away, but I cannot for the life of me figure out why they aren't including Sallah (especially after John Rhys-Davies was such a champion for Indy 4 for so long).  Also I totally can't comprehend why Connery said NO to coming back, thus leaving his final film as LXG.  That one kind of boggles my mind.

Angela Mar 30, 2008

New TV spot in 720p.  It's just five seconds of new footage with LeBeouf and Ford.... the rest are scenes from the teaser trailer.  Still managed to raise my ever-rising hype for the film, though.

TV Spot, 720p:
http://downloads.paramount.com/mp/india … 0_720p.mov

By the way, does anyone remember the Young Indiana Jones series back in the 90s?  For some reason or another, it bypassed me completely.  Was thinking of at least checking out the first volume set.

The Adventures of Young Indiana Jones, Volume One - The Early Years:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000VDDDVE/ref … erdict2-20

Ryu Mar 31, 2008

Hm, I wonder if they are going to touch up the special effects in the first three when they get special edition blu-ray releases like they did the original Star Wars trilogy.

Anyway, I'm looking forward to this movie... I think it is the first movie I'm seeing in theaters this year AND since Bourne Ultimatum came out.

Jay Mar 31, 2008

They didn't touch up the effects in Star Wars. They pricked about with it. If that's what you mean, I can't see anything worth doing to the Indiana Jones films.

As for actually just touching up the effects, well, they did that for the last dvd release. The only one I remember is removing the reflection of the snake in the first film but I think there were a couple more subtle fixes.

Ryu Mar 31, 2008

^ The effects in the second movie were crap when I watched it, for the first time, recently, but otherwise there's not much to do.

Jay Apr 1, 2008

Really? You could well be right. I either wasn't paying attention or I was clouded by nostalgia.

Angela Apr 22, 2008

The first (legit?) review of The Crystal Skull appears to be up.  Relatively spoiler-free, Hollywood Elsewhere reports:

http://hollywood-elsewhere.com/2008/04/ … r_jone.php

Proclamations like "Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull is the best of the Indy sequels" and ".... an ending that any longtime diehard fan of the films could only dream about - expect a particularly resounding reaction in the theater" sounds very promising.

shdwrlm3 Apr 22, 2008

Angela wrote:

The first (legit?) review of The Crystal Skull appears to be up.  Relatively spoiler-free, Hollywood Elsewhere reports:

http://hollywood-elsewhere.com/2008/04/ … r_jone.php

Cate Blanchett is rocking that wig. I thought Elsa was an interestingly complex character, but it'll be nice to see a full-blown female villainess.

In the latest issue of Entertainment Weekly, the reporter asks if "Agent Spalko gives off a vaguely dominatrix vibe," and George Lucas replies, "Not so vaguely!" Hmm, I wonder if she has a whip, too?

Qui-Gon Joe May 11, 2008

Angela wrote:

Heh, I couldn't help but snap this shot with my phone yesterday at the theater:

Wow!  Your theater interior totally looks just like one I used to go to in my childhood before that mall became too dangerous to go to for fear of being shot.  That's a pretty awesome display, too.

XLord007 May 12, 2008

The theater I go to is claiming it will have "Max the Crystal Skull" on display on the second weekend of the run.  No idea if that means anything or not, and I won't get to see it since I'm going on the first weekend, but uh, FWIW, you know?

Jay May 20, 2008

Well I saw the film this evening. Quick version - meh, it's okay. There's not really much of a story. Indy is just old. I was happy to find out Marion was in it and yet, watching it, I really wished she wasn't in it - she was rubbish, only served to refer to the first movie and made Indy worse.

Oddly, like really oddly, LaBeouf kind of saved the movie for me in ways. The opening I felt just didn't really come together, and I felt a little embarrassed for Ford (he wears old man pants). Things seemed really forced. But then they sent in the Beef and there was life in the movie.

But there are some good action bits, some great lines here and there. I really liked Broadbent in his brief role. I didn't find the movie too CG heavy at all (though just one single shot I could have done without). There's definitely stuff to enjoy here and it could have been a lot worse. I think it's easily my fourth favourite Indy film - and, after the 19 years (or whatever it is), to lump it in with them at all has to be a good sign.

Angela May 21, 2008

Ah, the first STC take on the film.  Excellent, thanks for sharing Jay!

Interesting that the opening didn't work for you, as many are saying that it's one of the very best parts of the movie.  Ford in old man pants?  Wouldn't you say that was a deliberate choice for his character?  But he's back in full garb after those opening sequences, right?   

Good to hear about the CG.  Odd that the majority of critics are saying that the effects are laid on thick -- or maybe they're integrated so seamlessly that it's hard to notice? 

I'd love to hear your take on Irina, actually. :)

Jay May 21, 2008

Yeah, I had heard so much about the CG and I am about as much a CG-aphobe as someone can get. I see little to no reason to use CG most of the time and yet films are full of it. There were about four instances in the movie where I was aware of the CG (there were others I'm sure but they were either really basic and hard to spot or just so big that they were an effect one way or another so CG didn't really matter).

One of those instances, I just didn't like what they were showing, rather than the CG itself. One of them was such a quick shot, I couldn't dwell on it. One was set up with a real life non-CG version, which mixed the tricks and helped the CG be believable (something Spielberg did so well back as far as Jurassic Park). The last, well, I only know it was CG because there's no way it could have been done any other way - it didn't look CG.

Sound like a lot when I lay it out there but, actually, it seemed like very little in the movie. Put it this way - there's no Jar Jar.

It wasn't so much the old man pants themselves that were the problem. You know when men hit a certain age, they lose all shape in certain areas? Well, Indy had lost all shape. His old man pants were hoisted up high and just hung like they were on a hanger. There was no shape. And I just fixated on that and saw a senior citizen, not Indiana Jones. That may be more about me than the movie... but even when he's in full Indy garb, all his pants look like old man pants.

I quite liked Irina. And in many ways I shouldn't - I'm no Blanchett fan (who is?), the character is entirely one-dimensional (actually barely even one dimension) and her look does not fit with anyone else in the movie. But something about her worked for me. There's very little to her. She's just a cartoon bad guy but, yeah, I kind of liked her. She's quite a badass and she played it well.

I'm quite surprised the opening worked for most people. It instantly requires a whole bunch of logic leaps, not that you wouldn't expect that in an Indiana Jones film but they come thick and fast so early. I also found it to be hugely exposition heavy, getting the full back story with him and Ray Winstone. And there were a few 'cool' lines that young Ford would have delivered beautifully but just sounded really forced from old man pants Ford. I could almost hear Spielberg shouting 'for God's sake man, give me more than that!'.

From that sequence, the movie goes into quite a relaxed natural setting of Professor Jones the elder teacher and there are some nice quiet moments with Indy and Jim Broadbent's character and, for me, they felt so much more real and natural - this was Indy in his later years for me. I could buy it. I kind of wish they had started with that feeling and then dragged Indy kicking and screaming into his former adventure role.

But, hey, it's Indy. Thing is, I could have come on here and said it is the worst film I have ever seen and you'd still all go see it. I know I would. One thing it has done is make me really hyped about the new Lego game. I can't wait for that, Nazis or no Nazis.

Angela May 22, 2008

Jay wrote:

And I just fixated on that and saw a senior citizen, not Indiana Jones. That may be more about me than the movie... but even when he's in full Indy garb, all his pants look like old man pants.

Man, now why'd you have to go and explain all that?  Now I'm gonna be consciously looking out for them old man pants.  >_>

I'm definitely looking forward to comparing and contrasting your impressions.  When are the rest of you seeing the film, by the way?  It's looking like I'll be waiting till this Saturday, since I insisted on seeing this badboy on a digital cinema viewing. :)

allyourbaseare May 22, 2008

The wife and I are out for a date this Friday and she wanted to go see the new Narnia until I reminded her that this is out.  Now it's a serious decision!

Personally, I could care less either way.  If I'm going to spend 20 bucks to go see a movie, everyone better SHUT THE HELL UP. 

$30.00 for a blu-ray played on the PS3 through surround sound at the comfort of my own home + cold Diet Cokes in the fridge + Orville Redennbacher?  MFW

Ryu May 22, 2008

I liked it, even though the story... hm.  To me, I didn't even notice 'old man pants' at all.  I did notice it really didn't feel like a Indiana Jones movie to me.  Since I'm not talking spoilers (we need to settle a rule on here on when we can), here's a slight aside on upcoming movies:

Next up:  Incredible Hulk... I'm not expecting much, but I have a disease where I end up seeing every Marvel movie.

Stuff that I won't be seeing next month:  The Happening is probably something I'll see on DVD, but I swear I've no interest in M. Night's work at all.  All thanks to The Village, the only one I've seen.

Get Smart's trailer, the one I saw before Indy, was funny.  The Love Guru might be funny, but for some reason I don't have faith Mike Myers can deliver the comedy goods any longer.  I'll probably wait until both of these are on DVD before I see them.

The previews for Wall-E look great.  The Pixar guys are brilliant, but I won't go see a movie alone, and I can never get a friend to go watch anything animated, other than the Simpsons Movie.  So, another I have to wait to see on DVD.

Shoe May 23, 2008 (edited May 23, 2008)

They should've called this movie 'Kingdom of The Crystal Rehash'.

Did the trilogy really need a fourth film? Um, no.

i loved the original movies back when they came out in the 80s but this one was just plain dumb.

i guess Harrison, Speelyberg & Lucas decided that they should make this movie 'for old time's sake/ to try and relive The Good Ol' Days' or whatever but an 'Indiana Jones 15 Year Anniversary Reunion Tour' is just silly, as well as a waste of your ticket money.

i suppose it's a way to introduce the Younger Generation to their Jones Experience on The Big Screen if you want to think of it that way, but to me it was just one big home video of Ford, Spielberg & Lucas's '2007 Summer Vacation'.

(Snippet of Lucas and Spielberg's phone conversation:)

"..I know, I know! I'm vacationing in Hawaii this summer, let's do an Indiana film with an Area 51 theme! Our old fanbase would LOVE a new Indy flick and I haven't seen Harrison in four years, how 'bout it Steve?"

'Yeah that's a great idea, my studio wants to make a summer blockbuster for next year and I've been kinda bored in general lately..'

"We can't use Nazis this time around, so how about Evil Russians and Psychic Aliens instead??"

'Sounds great to me, George! We'll start working on a script this weekend!! So I'll see you for dinner around 8:30 tomorrow?'

"You bet! Bring the grandkids too, tell 'em Uncle Georgie wants to show them the new Xbox game his company's working on!"

'Alright, see ya tomorrow then, take care!'

*click*



Some sequels are just so darned redundant. Blah, it sucks to get old, doesn't it??

shdwrlm3 May 23, 2008

Angela wrote:

I'm definitely looking forward to comparing and contrasting your impressions.  When are the rest of you seeing the film, by the way?  It's looking like I'll be waiting till this Saturday, since I insisted on seeing this badboy on a digital cinema viewing. smile

I'm planning on seeing it next Tuesday, but I'm debating on whether or not I should see it in digital. Spielberg himself mentions that transferring from film (which Indy was shot on) to digital makes for an inferior image. Let us know what you think of the image quality.

Also from the linked article:
"I apologize to the entire Russian populace for my impression," [Cate Blanchett] said yesterday. "But, hopefully, it will be dubbed."

Idolores May 23, 2008

allyourbaseare wrote:

If I'm going to spend 20 bucks to go see a movie, everyone better SHUT THE HELL UP.

Dude, where do you live? Movie tickets are about the same fuckmothering price for me. T_T

Cram May 24, 2008

It did feel like an Indiana Jones movie to me. I won't post spoilers. I will say that it followed a very similar structure to Raiders and Lost Crusade. I could easily defend that point but that would require spoilers.

As for story. I liked it. But I am also a fan of Science Fiction so I may be bias.

For anyone that may think that the story was way to "out there", just consider this: A cabinet that can contact god and kill people, stones that can heal the land, and a cup that can make someone immortal as long as they stay within 100ft of where they found the cup. All completely ridiculous, but we love them none the less. This movie is no different, in my opinion.

Go see it and have some fun. It's one hell of a ride.

Jay May 24, 2008

To drown my 360 RRoD sorrows, I went out and bought an excellent Indy Lego set. It's the opening of Raiders with the idol, boulder and the plane. Why did it have to be snakes? It's excellent. I really can't wait for the Indy Lego game and hope my 360 is back by the time it comes out.

Razakin May 24, 2008

Just got back from the theater, grinning like a kid who had seen his first Indy movie. Bloody hell, it was really worth the wait and ticket (9,5 €). Just loved the movie a lot.

Funnily, the chase scene which seemed so stupidly CGIsh on trailer, didn't felt at all CGI on big screen, maybe I was just so sweeped into the movie.

Now I just need to wait for the DVD.

And probably should talk about the movie more, but what can I do when I just loved it. Especially scene's with Karen Allen.

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