Soundtrack Central The best classic game music and more

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lordskylark Nov 20, 2007

Is there an NDS music archive? Like a place that lists most of the extracted music, such as the PSF and SPC sites have?

Thanks,
~Andy

Cedille Nov 20, 2007 (edited Nov 20, 2007)

Isn't there an emulated format or a plug-in for NDS music yet ? Or am I just ignorant as always? (maybe
it's not so hard to put SEQ, bank and PCM to one file).

As for VGMtrans, I assume archiving mp3 recording is a different story with archiving psf, spc and blah blah blah which incur much less bandwidth burden, and presumably a bit less legal risk (it's still illegal, though).

Dais Nov 20, 2007 (edited Nov 20, 2007)

I believe there's an archive out there of sequences extracted from VGMTrans and attempts to convert them to MIDI (or whatever, I'm not very knowledgeable on this)....I believe it's hosted and/or maintained by Knurek, so you should probably ask him. There's still no emulated DS sound format like xSF or SPC, though, and I doubt there will be for a while (or possibly ever). Especially since the space that DS carts allows means quite a few games use streaming music.

This topic (which I just remembered that I've been meaning to reply to for over four months, and I still have a 75% complete reply sitting in an open text file) gives a good quick tutorial on how to look at the contents of a DS rom in order to find out if it has any streamed music (which is what you're searching for if you can't find a song via VGMTrans). Keep in mind that there's still games that fall in the abyss of no coverage (many Western-developed games use sequencing that VGMtrans can't read, for example).

Your best hope for finding DS music is still official soundtracks and direct-from-handheld rips, and while I'm maintaining a (possibly soon to be updated) list of handheld game albums here, I'm unaware of what current databases there are for game rips - since cubed went down, and I have no idea of the status of the one Gamingforce was working on.

I need to get a DS so I can do some rips...

EDIT: cedille why are you bringing us yaranaika sad

Knurek Nov 21, 2007

Dais wrote:

I believe there's an archive out there of sequences extracted from VGMTrans and attempts to convert them to MIDI (or whatever, I'm not very knowledgeable on this)....I believe it's hosted and/or maintained by Knurek, so you should probably ask him. There's still no emulated DS sound format like xSF or SPC, though, and I doubt there will be for a while (or possibly ever). Especially since the space that DS carts allows means quite a few games use streaming music.

I wouldn't say that I maintain it. I do a few rips once in a while (when I'm sick of Hoot mostly). Those are for my personal use and as such are optimized for XMPlay and it's great MIDI softsynth plugin.
The VGMTrans conversion isn't good enough to consider releasing the stuff officially (some tracks sound pretty good, but there are few sets that don't have a problem or a few dozens), it's mostly done with the hope of helping with the ripping work once a proper xSF format is devised (track durations can be obtained quite easily that way for one).
It's bound to show up sooner or later (and no, Dais, streamed files shouldn't be a problem here. Many emulated formats support streams, like PSF, USF, GSF, GBR (yes, few Gameboy games used those as well)).
It's hosted on Modland (ftp://ftp.modland.com/temp/NDS/)

As to legality, it's about as legal as any other emulated music format - ie not really all that legal, but obscure enough not to warrant any unwanted attention. The Modland server host just about anything imaginable (NSF, PSF, VGM, modules from games), and the op said once that he had many visitors from game companies (judging from IPs in server logs) and zero legal problems as of yet. And just look at HVSC, they've been getting help direct from the composers (unreleased material, beta version of the tunes, etc) for a while.

Also, Dais, please finish that reply. I always love reading stuff you put up.

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