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Jay Jun 17, 2015

avatar! wrote:

So, did you opt for the $10,000 jacket, or the dinner party?

Ha!

The jacket.

student41269 Jun 17, 2015

rein wrote:

For one thing, the trailer suggests that Suzuki is rejecting the last 14 years of evolution in game design

This is precisely what excites me about the project big_smile

avatar! Jun 19, 2015

One thing I noticed on the Shenmue kickstarter, is that the rewards all seem to say "Trial Version" which is... odd?

Jay Jun 19, 2015

The first couple don't, which makes me think that they mean the backers who put in more money will get access to an earlier version.

avatar! Jun 23, 2015

Recently, I received 2 kickstarter rewards:

Lords of Xulima

Pillars of Eternity

PoE has received universal acclaim. LoX has also been well received, although not as well. I have to say though, among players (rather than critics), it has received universal acclaim. Personally, I'm enjoying LoX MORE than many AAA titles I have played! So, if you're into classic RPGs (Might and Magic, Wizardry, etc) I highly recommend LoX.

Also, since I was a kickstarter backer, I got the DRM-free physical versions, with no online activation or junk like that -life is good smile
It's also good to see that kickstarter projects DO deliver. In fact, there's only one kickstarter project I have backed that I'm worried about, and that's not even a game but a book. Happy summer gaming!

The_Paladin Jul 4, 2015

That is what's peeving me about the Bard's Tale IV kickstarter.  They still haven't delivered Torment which was supposed to be out this past December, but this 14 month development projection is now at the 21 month mark (27 months after funding completion)... so working on another game is a great idea, right?

There's actually a couple albums of arranged music up on kickstarter now:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/sa … er-tribute

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/so … ink-to-the

Ashley Winchester Jul 5, 2015 (edited Jul 5, 2015)

avatar! wrote:

One could almost see this as a ploy to grab as much money as possible. Not saying that's the case, but one could see it that way...

I think it's pretty clear where I stand on this but am I the only one that's... I don't know... kind of flabbergasted that these "new" IPs are getting movies and anime series already? WTF? These are UNTESTED IPs... what if the games suck? what if the game's just fair? I know the kickstarter success indicates a positive tend here but am I the only one that feels like Inafune's "plans" could possibly implode?

Lastly, I don't care if Inafune wants to kickstart another game... but considering he went to kickstarter THREE times for MN9 at least wait until THAT game releases before launching this.

GoldfishX Jul 6, 2015

Because he either knows people will pour money into it or he just REALLY enjoys sticking it to Capcom.

In any case, I'm no more impressed with this MML ripoff than I am with MN9. Again, craptastic character designs - main characters look downright anorexic, although the big guy looks like Tiesel. And in this case, I'm interested in what happens next in the cannon storyline of MML, not a game that is a spiritual successor.

avatar! Jul 6, 2015

I think we should give MN9 a chance before saying it's "craptastic". I do agree that throttling kickstarter campaigns on patrons, especially two at once, is a bit of an asshole thing to do. However, that doesn't change the fact that Capcom has really done little in so many years and so I can't blame Inafune for producing MN9, which again, I'm hoping will be a good or perhaps even great game.

avatar! Jul 9, 2015 (edited Jul 9, 2015)

http://kotaku.com/mega-man-legends-succ … 1716744811

"You might think that, given the widespread love for Mega Man Legends...a spiritual successor wouldn’t have trouble finding funding...but right now it’s sitting around $335,000, well short of that $800k goal..How can Inafune and company ask for people’s money before we even know what platforms the game will be on?"

Yups. Considering this is supposedly a "high-profile" kickstarter, it has to be one of the worst kickstarters I have ever seen!  Oh, and to add a bit of fuel to the fire:

MN9 TV series:
http://www.mightyno9.com/en/project2-overview%EF%BD%B02

MN9 Live-Action Movie:
http://variety.com/2015/digital/news/mi … 201534145/

yeah... yikes

Amazingu Jul 9, 2015

Looks like people might finally be getting sick of Inafune's bullshit?

I love Mega Man in (almost) all of its incarnations, but I've never been a big fan of Inafking himself, even if he's supposedly a nice enough dude in person.

Unrelated anecdote: I know 3 people who work at Comcept (all of them joined after the MN9 kickstarter was launched) and 2 of them quit well before the game's release. There's gotta be some issues there.

GoldfishX Jul 9, 2015

avatar! wrote:

I think we should give MN9 a chance before saying it's "craptastic". I do agree that throttling kickstarter campaigns on patrons, especially two at once, is a bit of an asshole thing to do. However, that doesn't change the fact that Capcom has really done little in so many years and so I can't blame Inafune for producing MN9, which again, I'm hoping will be a good or perhaps even great game.

I said the CHARACTER DESIGNS are craptastic. The gameplay looks...pretty standard, actually. Would be pretty hard to screw up.

Amazingu, I'm sure you've heard of this, but the community manager over there is really making a clown of herself. Just seems like a very toxic individual (and her knowledge of the Megaman franchise is questionable at best) and is probably reflective of deeper issues. Makes it harder to root for the "underdogs".

In a semi-related topic, Evo is right around the corner and players are starting the annual "donation drives" on Gofundme. Said players then proceed to get butthurt when people mention the evil words, "personal responsibility". If anyone wants to see a proper abuse of crowdfunding, look no further than people in the fighting game community trying to get a spectator-sponsored trip to Las Vegas to play videogames, gamble and party.

avatar! Jul 10, 2015

GoldfishX wrote:

In a semi-related topic, Evo is right around the corner and players are starting the annual "donation drives" on Gofundme. Said players then proceed to get butthurt when people mention the evil words, "personal responsibility". If anyone wants to see a proper abuse of crowdfunding, look no further than people in the fighting game community trying to get a spectator-sponsored trip to Las Vegas to play videogames, gamble and party.

Links?

Ashley Winchester Jul 10, 2015

GoldfishX wrote:

...the community manager over there is really making a clown of herself. Just seems like a very toxic individual...

I'd had heard rumblings about this... probably didn't help their cause when certain figureheads leaped to her defense. However, I thought she was gone...

Amazingu Jul 17, 2015

GoldfishX wrote:

...the community manager over there is really making a clown of herself. Just seems like a very toxic individual...

Dina is one of the people I was talking about, she's a personal friend so I'm obviously biased, but you wouldn't believe the kind of bullshit she had to deal with on a regular basis from an incredibly toxic community that decided she had slept her way into the company because... what? She's a girl?
She's a super smart and passionate person, and the last person I would call toxic. Again, it's the community of idiotic asshats that decide she's not suitable to be Community Manager for MN9 because she "doesn't have enough knowledge of the Megaman Franchise" (seriously f--- that bullshit. As if that has ANYTHING to do with her capabilities as a CM) that's the problem here, and I wouldn't wish the crap she had to wade through on a daily basis onto any of you.

But yeah, she's gone there now, so don't worry, your precious Mega Man clone is safe from vile feminist propaganda now.

Ashley Winchester wrote:

I'd had heard rumblings about this... probably didn't help their cause when certain figureheads leaped to her defense. However, I thought she was gone...

Perhaps people leaped to her defense because she was the victim of ridiculous bigotry? For absolutely no reason other than the ridiculous prejudice of people who call themselves Mega Man "fans"?
Have you considered that?

Okay, obviously I'm getting a bit hotheaded here, but like I said, I know her personally, I've seen all of this shit unfold right in front of my very eyes. She is the LAST person to blame and "toxic" is the last word I would use to describe her.

Zane Jul 17, 2015

re: RED ASH

"the original team that pioneered open world game design with Mega Man Legends"
Nope.

"That's why for this Kickstarter project, we've decided to start with a prologue chapter we call "The KalKanon Incident."
$800k for a prologue on a console that's yet to be named? Yeah, good luck.

Ashley Winchester Jul 17, 2015 (edited Jul 17, 2015)

Amazingu wrote:

But yeah, she's gone there now, so don't worry, your precious Mega Man clone is safe from vile feminist propaganda now.

This. I'm sorry but this is not what I (and perhaps what others who couldn't really forge their argument without spewing crumbs at the screen) were worried about.

If she had a discussion with some of the developers about feminism I really don't see an issue. The thing is why this was deemed "interesting" enough to be blogged about? I don't get it. It even could been politics or religion and I'd had felt the same way. I have some theories... but I doubt I could relay them in any kind of respectable fashion so I won't go into them. It's probably best to let this topic die.

Also, don't know why you even bothered to call it a "precious" Mega Man clone... (well, I do.) I think it's pretty clear that Goldfish and I could care less about this game. In fact, I think if you could play as a pair of chainsaw-wielding ovaries (that could wall climb) that would make it better.

Ashley Winchester Jul 17, 2015

Zane wrote:

re: RED ASH

"the original team that pioneered open world game design with Mega Man Legends"
Nope.

"That's why for this Kickstarter project, we've decided to start with a prologue chapter we call "The KalKanon Incident."
$800k for a prologue on a console that's yet to be named? Yeah, good luck.

Not to mention that the reason people wanted Legends 3 was to see the continuation of the story line that last saw action fifteen years ago.

The gameplay in the Legends series was good enough for me despite having its issues... but it was the narrative the was the more endearing part of the deal IMO.

GoldfishX Jul 17, 2015

Well, I have to call it as I see it and I saw how Dina conducted herself on social media. It has nothing to with her being female or feminism in general, but her conduct was extremely unprofessional and I believe the reaction to her is what caused the dogpile. Okay, one or two cancerous forum members or twitter people, fine. Get rid of them for the betterment of the community. But I have seen MANY people say she was not a good CM (a lot of it has been screencapped...I never had access to the forums because I never pledged). I kept hearing about discussions being shut down, people being blocked from the MN9 Twitter account and a large number of people tried to get their pledged money back over it.

I won't pursue this any farther, as I really don't care overall, but her leaving really doesn't improve how I view Comcept or MN9. But her conduct moved me from, "Well, I might grab this at a $20 price point" to "Screw it...I'd rather just replay MM3." Frankly, a lot of people need to learn to improve their conduct on social media, especially more highly visible figures.

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