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Rrolack Aug 2, 2015

Over the past 3 months, I've had roughly 15 VGM albums listed on eBay.  Most of these are fairly common Square Enix albums, which I don't need for various reasons (e.g. accidentally bought two of the same album, is missing the obi, is it slightly-less-good condition than I'd prefer, etc.).

Over those three months, only 2 of the 15 albums have sold.  That seems very slow to me, and I'm wondering if my pricing is out of line, if there's something else I'm doing wrong, or if the VGM market really is this slow.  A link to my sales are below:

http://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?_odkw=&_ … d&_sacat=0


Any thoughts?  I'll mention that I haven't tried selling at vgmdb, though if folks here find that venue more successful than ebay, I might try that route.

jb Aug 2, 2015

A number of possible reasons:

- You're selling all widely available soundtracks that you can get anywhere else.  Those that wanted them probably already have them, or can get them from any regular retailer.
- eBay is basically dead for VGM.  None of us look there regularly.  We either buy it retail when it comes out or we go straight to secondary JP markets and use middlemen for the items. 
- The eBay generation of VGM collectors has moved on.  That was 20 years ago for most of us.
- Japanese items just aren't as exotic as they were to most of us in the late 90s early 00s.  There is a huge market for that stuff now and it's not hard to find. 
- The VGM that is still on eBay hasn't really adjusted prices in the 15 years, i.e., things are way more expensive than they should be. 
- Even when we were using eBay, having to filter out bootlegs was and is still really annoying.

GoldfishX Aug 2, 2015

Try advertising your auctions on here before listing on ebay or using the marketplace forum. You might be able to get a sale without paying ebay fees. For the auctions, add some more pictures.

For me personally, I think your prices are fair, but most of your albums that interest me are ones I already have.

FuryofFrog Aug 2, 2015

Admittedly, when a seller puts something on ebay it kinda deters me from buying a lot of the time. I pretty much got all of my collection from the fine people on STC and VGMdb, along with my favorite sellers like otaku or yesasia. i definitely think your prices are fine, you got some nice ones including Eternal Wind and FF4 Remaster. Best wishes man.

avatar! Aug 2, 2015

Just my opinion, but seems to me like those are common as dirt, and you're pricing them way too high. Why would I pay $15 for a used CD when I can get a brand new one from places such as Target (which sells on ebay by the way) for pennies more than your price? Furthermore, other brand new copies are below your price. If I was trying to sell those, I would ask $10 + free shipping.

Ashley Winchester Aug 2, 2015 (edited Aug 2, 2015)

I know this is a little off topic... but is the FFIV remaster the SNES score w/the double loop, or is it the DS score?

If it's the SNES score, you may want to make note if it's the corrected version or not. Wasn't one of the songs cut off in the original pressing and they were offering buyers corrected discs? I'm pretty sure newer copies are corrected, right?

James O Aug 2, 2015

Ashley Winchester wrote:

I know this is a little off topic... but is the FFIV remaster the SNES score w/the double loop, or is it the DS score?

The FFIV Remaster is the SNES score with double loop.  the one above it with the two Cecils is the DS score.

Ashley Winchester Aug 2, 2015

James O wrote:
Ashley Winchester wrote:

I know this is a little off topic... but is the FFIV remaster the SNES score w/the double loop, or is it the DS score?

The FFIV Remaster is the SNES score with double loop.  the one above it with the two Cecils is the DS score.

Ah... thanks.

Ashley Winchester Aug 2, 2015

avatar! wrote:

Just my opinion, but seems to me like those are common as dirt, and you're pricing them way too high. Why would I pay $15 for a used CD when I can get a brand new one from places such as Target (which sells on ebay by the way) for pennies more than your price? Furthermore, other brand new copies are below your price. If I was trying to sell those, I would ask $10 + free shipping.

Uh... does Target sell VGM? Not calling you a lair... it's totally possible, I mean I was recently stunned to find that Walmart.com has a decent selection of vinyl for sale...

Ashley Winchester Aug 2, 2015

Rrolack wrote:

is missing the obi

I'm not trying to overthink this... but could this be the problem?

I know not every person who wants these albums has to have the OBI... but in my case all my albums have one and as silly as it sounds I wouldn't break from that trend for what are common albums.

avatar! Aug 2, 2015

Ashley Winchester wrote:
avatar! wrote:

Just my opinion, but seems to me like those are common as dirt, and you're pricing them way too high. Why would I pay $15 for a used CD when I can get a brand new one from places such as Target (which sells on ebay by the way) for pennies more than your price? Furthermore, other brand new copies are below your price. If I was trying to sell those, I would ask $10 + free shipping.

Uh... does Target sell VGM? Not calling you a lair... it's totally possible, I mean I was recently stunned to find that Walmart.com has a decent selection of vinyl for sale...

For example:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Distant-Worlds- … 1754472302

Ashley Winchester Aug 2, 2015

avatar! wrote:
Ashley Winchester wrote:
avatar! wrote:

Just my opinion, but seems to me like those are common as dirt, and you're pricing them way too high. Why would I pay $15 for a used CD when I can get a brand new one from places such as Target (which sells on ebay by the way) for pennies more than your price? Furthermore, other brand new copies are below your price. If I was trying to sell those, I would ask $10 + free shipping.

Uh... does Target sell VGM? Not calling you a lair... it's totally possible, I mean I was recently stunned to find that Walmart.com has a decent selection of vinyl for sale...

For example:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Distant-Worlds- … 1754472302

Damn... I stand corrected.

Jodo Kast Aug 2, 2015

I wouldn't try to sell common vgm on ebay. The clueless people are going to buy the bootlegs and the educated people are already going to have what most of us have. If one were to unload some of the rarer albums, they would sell for sure, and using ebay would be unnecessary. So ebay is not that helpful for selling common vgm and also not necessary for selling rare vgm, due to the fact that someone in this community or on vgmdb is always looking for some rare album.

Having said that, I contradicted myself and bought the FFIII album you're selling. There's always random factors that can't be predicted. I bought that common album because I'd like to replace my Ever Anime print. That was my very first ebay purchase, in early 2000, back when I was told by a GameCave employee to always buy Ever Anime versions.

Rrolack Aug 2, 2015

Thanks everyone for the comments.


Jodo, much appreciate the purchase smile  Your soundtrack is in the mail.

avatar, good point about my prices for albums that are still in print, and available from big-box US sellers.  I've lowered prices on those, and may come down further still.  Also, good to know that Target sells VGM; I'll have to add them to my list of sources for new albums wink

For albums that are missing the original obi, that certainly is not helping.

I've also listed the albums on vgmdb.  I'd originally thought eBay was the best place to start, thinking that the items might look more interesting to the average eBayer than the average vgmdb user (e.g. no $9 shipping from Japan, which many listings have).  Though it sounds like there are a paucity of VGM buyers on eBay.  Given the prevalence of fakes and double-the-retail-price listings, I can certainly see why eBay would be avoided.



Also, a link to my vgmdb sell list here:

http://vgmdb.net/db/marketplace.php?do= … erid=18272

Rrolack Aug 2, 2015

Jodo Kast wrote:

I was told by a GameCave employee to always buy Ever Anime versions.

Wow, I don't even...

Zorbfish Aug 3, 2015

I don't think there's anything wrong with the prices and would just echo what dancey said in that it's all stuff that everyone who wanted already has it by now.

You're into Touhou? If you're looking for anything or might want to sell/trade doujins in the future, let's talk smile

Rrolack Aug 3, 2015

Actually, I bought that Touhou album by mistake.  I thought it was a Final Fantasy album smile

Alcahest Aug 3, 2015

protip :  if you want your auctions to attract potential overseas buyers, opt-out of that scam called "global shipping program".
http://videoff7.free.fr/gsp_scam.png
shipping a single disc from the US to pretty much everywhere in the world is 8 bucks tops; not 25 LOLEBAY.

avatar! Aug 3, 2015

Jodo Kast wrote:

I wouldn't try to sell common vgm on ebay. The clueless people are going to buy the bootlegs and the educated people are already going to have what most of us have. If one were to unload some of the rarer albums, they would sell for sure, and using ebay would be unnecessary.

Have to disagree. I've tried to sell some rare albums and most people never want to pay what I'm asking. Then, I post it on eBay for maybe double what I originally asked, and it sells! Of course, this again is for the rare stuff. Speaking of which, I do have some rare (and some not-so-rare) albums, in case anyone is interested smile

http://vgmdb.net/db/marketplace.php?do= … serid=1967

Ramza Aug 4, 2015

for me, eBay is a last resort. I come to STC / vgmdb forums first, and talk to old friends and acquaintances.

When nothing else works, I put it up as a penny auction on eBay for a week. Someone is guaranteed to jump on that penny, and then we see how far it rises. I basically lose money on this method every time, but at least it's going to someone who wanted it enough to pay SOMETHING for it.

XISMZERO Aug 5, 2015

avatar! wrote:
Jodo Kast wrote:

I wouldn't try to sell common vgm on ebay. The clueless people are going to buy the bootlegs and the educated people are already going to have what most of us have. If one were to unload some of the rarer albums, they would sell for sure, and using ebay would be unnecessary.

Have to disagree. I've tried to sell some rare albums and most people never want to pay what I'm asking. Then, I post it on eBay for maybe double what I originally asked, and it sells! Of course, this again is for the rare stuff. Speaking of which, I do have some rare (and some not-so-rare) albums, in case anyone is interested smile

http://vgmdb.net/db/marketplace.php?do= … serid=1967

I'm always willing to have a preview!

I agree with listing on eBay. So many greedheads are trying to sell things for too high prices and it numbs the average collector so when something comes along at a reasonable starting bid, not a f*king sky-high BIN, people want it. It's almost as if they respect the seller for not being an asshole.

I'll use Champs as the reigning one again, I deal with other sellers, non-eBay (I'd rather not disclose) and their prices are shockingly lower than the hiked eBay fare.

Alley Dec 30, 2015 (edited Dec 30, 2015)

jb wrote:

A number of possible reasons:

- eBay is basically dead for VGM.  None of us look there regularly.  We either buy it retail when it comes out or we go straight to secondary JP markets and use middlemen for the items. 
- The eBay generation of VGM collectors has moved on.  That was 20 years ago for most of us.
- Japanese items just aren't as exotic as they were to most of us in the late 90s early 00s.  There is a huge market for that stuff now and it's not hard to find. 
- The VGM that is still on eBay hasn't really adjusted prices in the 15 years, i.e., things are way more expensive than they should be. 
- Even when we were using eBay, having to filter out bootlegs was and is still really annoying.

I would definitely agree with these points. It's why I don't post sales here or on Ebay anymore.
I know folks who would buy but refuse to go through the trouble of perusing through bootlegs. I've noticed that when I note the authenticity and condition of my cds when posting online or listing auctions, I get better results.

But jb raises a fundamental point: the age of game soundtrack collection has passed. With digital access to songs everywhere, no one needs to hunt down for limited edition Japanese releases. And frankly, since the US began to produce domestic anime and game soundtracks (which I enjoyed at the time because my broke self didn't have to spend $30 per cd), the tabou and alluring factor of finding rare cds has dwindled.

Even on this page where the last of us continue the culture, I'm lucky if I sell one cd when I post them.

Ironically, where I'm finding success is in direct interactions.

But who knows, maybe that all will change.

Nerdism and Geek Culture is making a comeback. Hopefully there will be space for us gamers and game music enthusiasts as well.

Ashley Winchester Dec 30, 2015

Alley wrote:

Even on this page where the last of us continue the culture, I'm lucky if I sell one cd when I post them.

On this thought, I'm not sure if you'd say it's related, but many of the albums I'd actually jump at the chance to buy just don't crop up in sales very often... and most of those albums aren't very rare.

I can't help but feel the variety of what's being offered in sales has become somewhat stagnant because there are less and less people offering things and the remaining collectors are more likely to hold onto items.

GoldfishX Dec 31, 2015

I think you will see CD's make a "comeback", just as 8/16 bit carts and vinyl have. I just think the body of work released on CD is too valuable to ignore, to both old-timers and people coming into the hobby. The stuff from the 90's in particular represents a boom period for VGM (and gaming as a whole) that has a lot of historical value (this can be seen from the high number of retro collections being released nowadays). You had the Japanese companies in peak form, all of the "legendary" composers in peak form, more arranged albums than you could shake a stick at and the whole arcade/16bit/32bit era when the VGM was maturing (or some could say, prior to it getting stifled).

I think the days of $1500 Dracula New Classics and $500 Estpolis Biographies are over (thank god!), but I think the whole "OMG! They have CD's with videogame music!? I can't believe it!" feeling is something that isn't going away.

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