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avatar! Sep 26, 2016

FuryofFrog wrote:

unlike the SNES...

So, is there a way to get HD from your SNES? I'm really hoping someone makes an upgraded SNES clone that connects via HDMI much like the AVS. Not holding my breath, although I think it will happen eventually. In the meantime, how can I get my SNES to display HD?

FuryofFrog Sep 26, 2016

avatar! wrote:
FuryofFrog wrote:

unlike the SNES...

So, is there a way to get HD from your SNES? I'm really hoping someone makes an upgraded SNES clone that connects via HDMI much like the AVS. Not holding my breath, although I think it will happen eventually. In the meantime, how can I get my SNES to display HD?

I was referring to RGB. SNES supports RGB out of the box that does not have to be restored as opposed to NES and N64.

In terms of NES it's more economical to invest in an AVS instead of Framemeister and RGB modding the NES.

I completely agree with you though. I would kill for a HDMI SNES. If they make the AVS equivalent of SNES I would die happy.

My Life in Gaming RGB 204 SNES
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1k2HVB9S8CA

Zorbfish Sep 27, 2016

avatar! wrote:

What do you mean "carry over" to other platforms?

A friend of mine uses it for his snes, playstation 1 & 2. I figured it makes more sense to buy a piece of hardware that could be used across more platforms than buying specific machines. I wasn't aware of the issue with the original Nintendo.

avatar! Nov 23, 2016

Scalpers paradise...

"NES Classic Edition scalpers benefit from eBay policy that ensures profit"

http://www.digitaltrends.com/gaming/eba … ng-profit/

"... the company’s recently instituted price guarantee policy will effectively allow scalpers to hold the NES Classic Edition for ransom throughout the rest of the year"

Just say NO to scalpers! Wait until after the holidays.

Ashley Winchester Nov 23, 2016

avatar! wrote:

Just say NO to scalpers! Wait until after the holidays.

This. Seriously, just wait or download emulators until you can get one.

I think the NES Classic is a cool item, but I had to be honest with myself on this one. If I got one, I probably wouldn't have opened it and it would have sat around since I've been so disinterested in games for the past year. Additionally, I'm assuming this hooks up via HDMI so I couldn't hook it up even if I wanted to.

But yeah, please wait on these. It's not worth paying above retail.

avatar! Nov 23, 2016

Ashley Winchester wrote:

I think the NES Classic is a cool item, but I had to be honest with myself on this one. If I got one, I probably wouldn't have opened it and it would have sat around since I've been so disinterested in games for the past year. Additionally, I'm assuming this hooks up via HDMI so I couldn't hook it up even if I wanted to.

I would totally advise saving up for either an Analogue NT or the cheaper (but still awesome) AVS. Those two systems play ALL NES & Famicom games, while the NES Classic plays what 30 games for $60 hmm
Also, as I've said quite a few times, the homebrew and repro games are amazing! Zelda Outlands is more fun than most AAA games yikes

Ashley Winchester Nov 23, 2016 (edited Nov 23, 2016)

avatar! wrote:

I would totally advise saving up for either an Analogue NT or the cheaper (but still awesome) AVS. Those two systems play ALL NES & Famicom games, while the NES Classic plays what 30 games for $60 hmm
Also, as I've said quite a few times, the homebrew and repro games are amazing! Zelda Outlands is more fun than most AAA games yikes

Well, to be honest I don't think the NES Classic Edition is aimed at the devout people/players who would eye an Analogue NT or AVS. I may be wrong but I think most of the NES classic editions may end up in the hands of children whose parents grew up with these games and want to introduce a younger generation to them. This isn't to say those children won't grow up and invest in those other options, but if I was still collecting, no, the NES Classic edition wouldn't replace getting the actual carts and consoles (original or otherwise); it would just be an additional extra/option in my collection.

Amazingu Jan 18, 2017

avatar! wrote:

Just say NO to scalpers! Wait until after the holidays.

Well, that idea didn't exactly end up working it seems... wink

Anyway, if you've been following the news you probably already know, but the NES Classic has been hacked!
Users can now install pretty much any ROM they want on the thing, and the process is super easy.

Apparently there's a 60 game limit due to UI restrictions, but there's actually a fair amount of storage space and the device could potentially hold MANY more games.

http://kotaku.com/people-have-started-h … 1790936458

brandonk Jan 19, 2017

Seriously, you're better off getting the AVS retro USB

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1259517

Play all games, better/accurate quality (not software emulation like Nintendo's own device, but hardware emulation).  There's a pretty good breakdown of the NES Classic and comparisons here:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lxek9ZD3Njw

I have an original Analogue NT that I'm getting repaired which has similar quality performance (power switch/button is faulty) but it's pretty over priced...but does have the HDMI NES configuration which is pretty great

avatar! Jan 19, 2017

brandonk wrote:

Seriously, you're better off getting the AVS retro USB

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1259517

Play all games, better/accurate quality (not software emulation like Nintendo's own device, but hardware emulation).  There's a pretty good breakdown of the NES Classic and comparisons here:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lxek9ZD3Njw

I have an original Analogue NT that I'm getting repaired which has similar quality performance (power switch/button is faulty) but it's pretty over priced...but does have the HDMI NES configuration which is pretty great

Absolutely! There's also the Analogue NT Mini which is fully 1080p and smaller than the original. I believe the AVS is 720p. However, it's still far better than the NES Classic in my opinion since it plays all games! Although, I can understand people wanting the NES Classic because it's an official Nintendo product. Apparently Nintendo doesn't care as long as they get publicity hmm

brandonk Jan 19, 2017

avatar! wrote:

I believe the AVS is 720p. However, it's still far better than the NES Classic in my opinion since it plays all games! hmm

I think you're right...but in my experience, upscaling RGB signals and using things like scanlines, as well as the HiDef NES HDMI signal....720p is fine, and 1080 - always has something odd about it (not full screen, wierd artifacting).  There's an active debate on getting 1080p 'proper' but it doesn't really translate as well for me as 720p for retro games (which most are natively 240p).

avatar! Jan 19, 2017

brandonk wrote:
avatar! wrote:

I believe the AVS is 720p. However, it's still far better than the NES Classic in my opinion since it plays all games! hmm

I think you're right...but in my experience, upscaling RGB signals and using things like scanlines, as well as the HiDef NES HDMI signal....720p is fine, and 1080 - always has something odd about it (not full screen, wierd artifacting).  There's an active debate on getting 1080p 'proper' but it doesn't really translate as well for me as 720p for retro games (which most are natively 240p).

Never heard that before. Do you have a source to this? Also, wonder how this translates to 4K TVs?

brandonk Jan 19, 2017 (edited Jan 19, 2017)

well...there's all sorts of stuff...those my life and gaming guys go into it on one of their vids.  I believe I recall them saying 4k are believed to eventually work well because it is scalable from 240p and 720p)

This gent promotes 1080p with custom framemeister profiles, but you can read his comments to get a sense

http://www.firebrandx.com/generalframemeisternotes.html

My experience has been 'shortened' screen use and continued problems with scan lines, depending on the system at 1080p

It made sense to me why the AVS systems is 720 given the issues I encountered.

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