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Ashley Winchester Nov 30, 2016

Pedrith wrote:

I rather they take their time and get it right.

Yeah, I'm probably being a worry wart with this one; I think the whole Mighty No.9 thing is still fresh in my mind which is why I'm so apprehensive. Still, a big name doesn't does always equate to gold.

I don't know if I'll ever play Bloodstained honestly, but maybe we'll get a good OST out of it and I'll pick that up if there's a commercial release.

avatar! Nov 30, 2016

Ashley Winchester wrote:

Yeah, I'm probably being a worry wart with this one; I think the whole Mighty No.9 thing is still fresh in my mind which is why I'm so apprehensive.

I think Nintendo will do a good job. By the way, I have to wonder, how much that Inafune make off MN9?

Ashley Winchester Nov 30, 2016

avatar! wrote:
Ashley Winchester wrote:

Yeah, I'm probably being a worry wart with this one; I think the whole Mighty No.9 thing is still fresh in my mind which is why I'm so apprehensive.

I think Nintendo will do a good job. By the way, I have to wonder, how much that Inafune make off MN9?

I'm confused here. I was referring to being worried about Bloodstained; not the Switch.

I haven't had much of a stake in Nintendo since the SNES days. I hope the Switch is successful, but I'm not really interested in modern games. Hell, I haven't played any of my older ones for quite a while. Eh, it is what it is...

XLord007 Dec 7, 2016

Pedrith wrote:

I'm willing to wait for more info in regard to tech specs, but from what I have read online it seems pretty top of the line (although I'm not tech savvy so I might be wrong)

I would lower my expectations here. Most reports peg it as being a bit more powerful than a Wii U but certainly less powerful than a PS4 Amateur. The specs are on the modest side because it uses a mobile architecture that has to prioritize battery life over performance.

vert1 Dec 7, 2016

Nintendo’s full words on the name:

“We decided that this name would be the best fit for our product for two reasons. It represents one of the defining features of the Switch, the ability to seamlessly ‘switch’ between the TV screen and Switch’s screen, while also embodying the idea of being a ‘switch’ that will flip, and change the way people experience entertainment in their daily lives.”

Nintendo was also asked about what the company wanted people to take away from Switch’s announcement trailer. To that, the big N said:

“We wanted to show people just how much of an enjoyable difference it will make in their entertainment experiences, by having them see and hear for themselves what it can do in an easy-to-digest manner. It allows people to enjoy a home console experience not only in front of a TV, but in rooms with no TV, or outside altogether. And because the controllers are detachable from the main body of the console, each of its forms offer different play experiences for people to enjoy.”

source: http://nintendoeverything.com/nintendo- … t-trailer/

avatar! Jan 12, 2017

http://www.forbes.com/sites/davidthier/ … 717d4850ee

"Nintendo Switch Pre-Orders Start Tomorrow For The Lucky Few"

" I worry that severely limited stock in the first few months could damage the Switch's ability to gain a foothold in advance of the holiday season, when Xbox One and PS4 will be getting new slates of exciting games and Microsoft will likely break the bank to push the Scorpio."

Pedrith Jan 13, 2017

Well I preordered my copy today.  With the trade in deals at EB games it cut just under $200 canadian off the price.  Basically I traded all my 3ds games except DQ7 as I'm still playing it, and Bravely Default collector's edition.  I traded in all my ps3 games except for Deus Ex Human Revolution, Eternal Sonata, Odin Sphere, and Dragon's Crown.

Once I finish DQ7 it and the 3ds will be traded in too.

Amazingu Jan 13, 2017

I was ready to buy the Switch day one, but after yesterday's presentation, I think I'm gonna hold off for a bit.
Zelda at launch is VERY tempting, but March is packed with great games, so I'd rather spend less money on more games, than a whole lot of money just to play one.

I'll get one the day Mario or Xenoblade 2 is released though, whichever comes first.

Jodo Kast Jan 14, 2017

I never did get the Wii U, so the revised Mario Kart 8 looks appealing. My main draw to the Switch is Mario Odyssey, as it looks like the successor to Mario 64 more so than Sunshine or the Galaxies.

XLord007 Jan 14, 2017 (edited Jan 14, 2017)

I had no trouble securing pre-orders at several retailers, and I've watched pre-orders go in and out of stock, back and forth, all day, so I think this will be more like Wii U and less like Wii in terms of acquisition difficulty. Launching off season helps a lot with this. I'm sure it would be much harder if this was launching in November. What's really baffling is how I had no trouble getting pre-orders for this, but after two months I still can't get any kind of order for an NES Classic.

XLord007 Jan 14, 2017

Jodo Kast wrote:

My main draw to the Switch is Mario Odyssey

The gameplay in this looks quite cool, and I like the possibilities of using Mario's hat as a temporary platform instead of having F.L.U.D.D. or a double jump. That said, the more realistic environments are jarring in a Sonic Adventure sort of way, and I have mixed feelings about that. The New Donk City world looks like Grand Theft Mario.

Amazingu Jan 14, 2017

XLord007 wrote:

What's really baffling is how I had no trouble getting pre-orders for this, but after two months I still can't get any kind of order for an NES Classic.

The NES Classic was clearly produced in very small numbers, so it's not that surprising.

Jay Jan 14, 2017

I really like the look of the Switch and, really, I'm an easy sale but the lack of games will have me holding off. As a WiiU owner, right now it's a proposition that doesn't really make any sense. Its one big launch game I can get on the WiiU. Its next big game, MK8, hasn't demonstrated why it would be worth a purchase to anyone who already owns the WiiU version. And same for Splatoon, with the added issue that online will be paid later in the year where it has been entirely free and easy on the WiiU.

So until Sonic Adventure Odyssey (I actually think it looks really good), I'd be struggling to justify a Switch. Must admit I have been hugely disappointed by the show of games so far.

Ashley Winchester Jan 14, 2017

Not that anyone needs my validation, but I was pretty impressed by what I saw. That said, not to be a party pooper, but I'm kind of worried about that damn battery.

Qui-Gon Joe Jan 14, 2017

Take any of this with a grain of salt since I pretty much buy every console nowadays anyway just to have every option available (and no, I haven't found anything to do with my Xbox One yet other than D4 and Ori hmm) AND I still adore Nintendo's first part output. 

I feel more and more disconnect from the majority of "gamers" on the internet every time something major comes up.  I watched a presentation Thursday night about a new console that showed a bunch of really cool and fun looking games as well as some interesting new hardware ideas (and the thought "I could probably translate Japanese better than this and this dude probably make a lot more money than I do, but that's a bit unrelated).  Xenoblade 2 seems like it could be the true sequel to one of my favorite RPGs ever (X was still solid for me, but did not come close to recapturing the original), any 3D Mario by Tokyo EAD is going to be phenomenal, the party games while most people don't care about will be hours of fun with my friends who are a mixture of levels of enthusiasm about games in general, and of course Zelda looks better than ever.  And who can forget that in the only not-horrible thing Konami has done in ages, BOMBERMAN is getting resurrected???

What I do NOT get is why the vast majority of people in my hobby seem to not understand - after generation after generation of this happening - that Nintendo is not trying to BE Sony or Microsoft.  They have carved out a niche for themselves that is different and to the side and both simultaneously attempting totally new ideas (vs. just MOAR GRAPHICS) and clutching to concepts from the past that I miss in the other consoles.  Why is it such a bad thing to have diversity in games and have multiple consoles that accomplish multiple things?  Do people want to just dump their X1s, PS4s, and PCs because Nintendo gives them an option to do so and offer the same exact thing at a higher resolution or something?  I don't understand why I feel like I'm one of the only people who enjoys each platform for what it is, rather than hate it for what it isn't.

In any case, I got in a preorder at Best Buy the night of the presentation.  Haven't done so for any of the games yet, as I was hoping to get the cool version of Zelda with the Master Sword.  Not sure that's going to happen now, though, as apparently most retailers put those up during that night while I decided to get a few hours of sleep before work and now preorders are sold out everywhere.  Oh well.... probably don't need more plastic statues filling space in my house these days anyway.

Overall though, yeah... I'm actually super excited right now about video games in general.  The PS4 and Xbox One are both finally hitting their strides (especially PS4 for me, but with multiplatform games I feel depending on your tastes you can't go wrong with either), the PC is getting more and more content that used to be only for consoles, mobile gaming is starting to mature a little bit, and Nintendo is flying in from a weird angle to give us something strange and new and maybe great (but still with their solid first party stuff regardless).  Indy games are starting to do a shockingly good job of filling niches that the big publishers abandoned ages ago.  It's a good time to play video games!

XLord007 Jan 15, 2017

Qui-Gon Joe wrote:

What I do NOT get is why the vast majority of people in my hobby seem to not understand - after generation after generation of this happening - that Nintendo is not trying to BE Sony or Microsoft.

I think a lot of the frustration comes from people wanting Nintendo games to be successful, and Nintendo games trapped on hardware that nobody wants (Wii U) makes them less successful than they could be. I have a hard time believing the Switch will be a big hit. There's very little third-party support and the there's no proven market for a hybrid device that's not powerful enough to be a competitive console and too big to be easy to take with you. America wants super powerful consoles for beautiful, big screen gaming. Japan wants easy-to-use, convenient portables that fit into daily commutes. Does the Switch meet either of those needs?

Adam Corn Jan 15, 2017

I was cautiously optimistic about the Switch but under the current circumstances Nintendo are going to miss pretty much every prospective audience that exists for the console.

Nintendo fans who bought Wii U: Every other Nintendo game (if not more) in the early lineup looks to be a slightly improved port of a Wii U game. Aside from a few extra features, limited portability, and promises of better things down the road there looks to be little incentive to upgrade.

Nintendo fans who skipped Wii U: The price is the same, the lineup is mostly the same, even the system itself is mostly the same aside from, again, limited portability.

On-the-go gamers: In concept releasing a console that doubles as a home console and portable is the right approach, but in its current iteration I'm not sure the battery life meets most people's requirements for portability.

Gamers who need cutting edge tech: We always knew this wasn't going to happen.

Casual gamers and families: There are plenty of people in this category who would like to play the occasional Nintendo game, but not at $300.

As long as the system has been rumored for I'm a little shocked this is the best lineup they could launch with, and I can't believe they're pricing it at $300 and expecting success. Either they're going to experience a disappointing launch and have to drop the price to $250 in time for the holidays (and face the same early adopter backlash they did with the 3DS) or they'll leave it at $300 though the year, face a disastrous holiday season and miss the system's best chance at success.

There's nothing to be done about the early lineup but Nintendo are going to have to take a loss on hardware if need be and drop the price if they don't want to lose out on another console generation. They also need to prepare a contingency plan to ditch the screen and battery and release a home-only version for $50 cheaper. It would lose the "switch" concept but Nintendo's insistence on sticking with an inessential hardware feature that raises the price is partially what doomed the Wii U. (Conversely they dropped the signature feature of the 3DS for the 2DS, and though the execution left something to be desired it did net them extra sales.)

As someone who relocates too often to invest in a full-sized console and doesn't require cutting edge graphics, but would like something a step up from the 3DS and smartphones, I was hoping the Switch would at least fill my own particular niche, but not with that price and lineup.

avatar! Jan 15, 2017 (edited Jan 15, 2017)

Adam Corn wrote:

I was cautiously optimistic about the Switch but under the current circumstances Nintendo are going to miss pretty much every prospective audience that exists for the console.



Nintendo fans who skipped Wii U: The price is the same, the lineup is mostly the same, even the system itself is mostly the same aside from, again, limited portability.

I don't agree with this. At least from my perspective as a Nintendo fan (although not a die-hard fan) who skipped the Wii U. Seems to me with the release of Zelda & Mario Odyssey, Nintendo already has more interesting games then they had for the Wii U. Not to mention Fire Emblem Warriors (may be good), Xenoblade 2 (will keep an eye out)... and uh, Skyrim? Well, if they can get unique quests for Skyrim (doubt it) maybe it will sell well? At any rate, the fact that they *finally* have a new Zelda game that doesn't appear like it's utterly gimmicky (Skyward Sword, Link Between Worlds) is refreshing and gives me some heart (get it, see what I did there tongue

Also, as for limited portability. I don't know if I'm in the minority on this, but I couldn't care less about portability. I just want a home console that's good and has good games...

Amazingu Jan 15, 2017

Qui-Gon Joe wrote:

What I do NOT get is why the vast majority of people in my hobby seem to not understand - after generation after generation of this happening - that Nintendo is not trying to BE Sony or Microsoft.

That is true, and Nintendo has stated they're not directly competing with Sony or Microsoft, but the problem is that they ARE competing with Sony and Microsoft, whether they like it or not.
If you can only afford one console per cycle, you have to choose what you spend your money on, and if you have to choose between a technologically unimpressive, gimmicky console with 32GB of storage for $300, or a 500GB PS4 (a console that already has an impressive library too) for exactly the same price, why would anyone go for the Switch?

It looks like they're trying to get that casual audience they captured with the Wii again, but I don't think they can pull off another hit like that, especially not at this price point.

I've bought pretty much every Nintendo console since the N64 at launch, but this will be the first time I'm going to hold out (which, frankly, also has a lot to do with the fact that February and March are already PACKED with big releases).

avatar! wrote:

Seems to me with the release of Zelda & Mario Odyssey, Nintendo already has more interesting games then they had for the Wii U.

Breath of the Wild is also coming to Wii U though.
I'm still gonna get the console, but I'll wait until Mario or Xenoblade 2 gets released.

student41269 Jan 16, 2017 (edited Jan 16, 2017)

There's something of an elephant in the room here, which is that the special editions of Breath Of The Wild are only being released for the Switch version. That doesn't seem fair on those collectors who were waiting for what was heavily promoted as a major Wii U game.

EDIT: After a bit more digging, it sounds like there may be Wii U flavours of the special editions coming after all. If so, I guess they weren't announced simultaneously as a way of keeping the focus on the Switch.

Jay Jan 16, 2017

Got to be honest, I fully expected the WiiU version to be cancelled and I'm a little surprised that didn't happen. I'm very glad and it would have brought about an incredibly negative reaction but, as pointed out, it removes a key reason to buy a Switch for anyone who already has a WiiU.

avatar! Jan 16, 2017

Jay wrote:

Got to be honest, I fully expected the WiiU version to be cancelled and I'm a little surprised that didn't happen. I'm very glad and it would have brought about an incredibly negative reaction but, as pointed out, it removes a key reason to buy a Switch for anyone who already has a WiiU.

Isn't the WiiU dead in the waters, and frankly, hasn't it been "dead" for a long time already? Don't get me wrong, it had a handful of great titles, but a handful of titles compared to what's available for the PS4 or Xbox? Joke. As Amazing noted, of course Nintendo is directly competing with Sony and Microsoft! To think otherwise is silly.

Amazingu Jan 16, 2017

avatar! wrote:

Isn't the WiiU dead in the waters, and frankly, hasn't it been "dead" for a long time already?

Yes, but the people who bought one probably still have it, and I expect there's a lot of overlap between the people who bought a Wii U and the people who are interested in the Switch, so the problem is that their biggest launch title is not a super-compelling reason to buy the Switch for Wii U owners.
I certainly won't mind settling for a slightly inferior version if it means I can save $300.

Jay Jan 17, 2017

Yep, that's exactly it. Adam really nailed why this is both a difficult proposition for those who have a WiiU and those who haven't. As someone who has one and actually wants to be sold on this, they're really not giving me a reason to get one.

raynebc Jan 17, 2017

I'm waiting to see how much better the Switch version of the new Zelda is.  The new Mario game isn't enough to sway me to buy a new Nintendo console given how little I've played the Wii U.

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