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Zane Apr 25, 2006

Unreasonably overpriced BIN auctions and padded shipping, per usual.

Princess-Isabela Apr 25, 2006 (edited Apr 25, 2006)

if somebody has any questions, just let me know.
shipping rate will be always the same, no matter how many osts you'll buy.
thanks^^

raynebc Apr 25, 2006

Nobody is being forced to buy them immediately, that's a luxury for people that can afford to pay what it costs to be sure to get it.  Do the auctions have a minimum ending bid (I forgot ebay's term for that)?

Eclisis Apr 25, 2006

raynebc wrote:

Nobody is being forced to buy them immediately, that's a luxury for people that can afford to pay what it costs to be sure to get it.  Do the auctions have a minimum ending bid (I forgot ebay's term for that)?

I don't think it's possible to have a reserve through eBay with the fixed price listings. 

And wow, the sales tax in Buckhead is higher than Cali's...

Man in the Desert Apr 26, 2006

Holy crap....that's some expensive stuff.  You'll have to excuse my ignorance, but is a lot of that stuff truely super super rare and precious?  Like the Bad Fur Day soundtrack....sheesh, really?  What, did they print like 30 of those or something?

Razakin Apr 26, 2006

Ahahhahah
No really, oh come on: "this is official release - made in Japan, not a bootleg or cd-r - I'm only selling genuine articles from Japan" big_smile (Althought, you probably forgot to change that for this item)

But still, $50 for it. Taking a little profit from the albums eh? And people bitch about Mr. Soundtrack prices hmm

Princess-Isabela Apr 26, 2006 (edited Apr 26, 2006)

yeah, sorry but if you're listing many soundtracks at once, you're eventually make a mistake, I will fix description for it.
some prices are high, I'm not saying they arent.
Conker's Bad Fur Day again - this is one of the rarest Nintendo/Rareware Soundtracks in existence wheter someone like it or not, rarer than Killer Instinct Gold(which had only 700 copies printed from what I know), you can download certain tracks from internet for free, but this item is strictly for collectors.
and it showed up on ebay I think once in the last three years or something.
I'm not forcing anyone to buy it you know, its a strictly volunteer matter ^_~
like with every hobby - someone will spend certain amount of money on a particular item if he really want it, others wont.
simple as that, no reason to complain.

seanne Apr 26, 2006

Princess-Isabela wrote:

like with every hobby - someone will spend certain amount of money on a particular item if he really want it, others wont.
simple as that, no reason to complain.

I don't think anyone particularly enjoys paying more than is generally necessary for a certain item though. It's not like everyone who buys from you is aware of most of the stuff can be bought for a much cheaper price on YJA.

How would you feel if you, in good faith (since the seller made claims like "SUPER RARE", "YOU MIGHT NEVER SEE IT AGAIN"), bought a certain CD for $100 just to notice later on that it generally goes for about half of that.

This is one reason why people complain.

Crash Apr 26, 2006

Well, if an item goes for a lot of money, you can expect that there will be others who have the same item that will notice the price it went for, and be induced to sell.  Consider Cloud V's Dracula New Classic auction years ago.  This was one of the most prized CDs of the time, primarily because (a) it was a popular series, done in a popular arrangement style, and (b) few people in the US had even heard of it, much less had a copy.  I think that ended up going for $1,200.  Within a month or two, both Kahori and Jerold had put up copies on eBay.  I'm pretty sure that Kahori's ended up selling for $1,500.  However, as more sellers look to sell at a hot price, the price will tend to go down (although there will be some rabid buyers who view the last auction price as "the going rate", rather than an anomaly). I seem to remember that this high price on eBay caused the price to go up on Y!J, as a number of sellers were trying to buy copies in Japan to re-sell on eBay for a profit.  Eventually, the market leveled, and now the going rate for this disc is in the $100-$200 range.

If you view the purchase as a collectible, then you are likely to pay a lot for it.  If you view the purchase as a chance to listen to the music, and don't care about the collectibility, you won't pay as much for it.  If the music is worth $100 to you, then you should be happy with your purchase if you get it for $100.  If the music is worth $75 to someone else, but the prospect of owning such a rare disc is worth $50 (and believe me, there is a sense of self-satisfaction that you can derive from owning rare things), then he would be willing to pay $125 for the package.  Even though he values the music less, he values the package more, and will end up getting it.

Now I'm rambling.  I'll shut up now.

avatar! Apr 26, 2006

Razakin wrote:

Ahahhahah
No really, oh come on: "this is official release - made in Japan, not a bootleg or cd-r - I'm only selling genuine articles from Japan" big_smile (Althought, you probably forgot to change that for this item)

But still, $50 for it. Taking a little profit from the albums eh? And people bitch about Mr. Soundtrack prices hmm

A "little" profit?  NO!!  This album is availabe for $11.99 at

http://www.oneupstudios.com/albums.php?show=3

Seems to me like she's making a 417% profit!!

-avatar!

LuxKiller65 Apr 26, 2006

All right, all right... but what's the point of jumping on him/her anyway? If one doesn't like the price and knows where to get the same OST cheaper, then off he/she goes, no? Like, useless, as long as he/she isn't selling 75 bootlegs I mean...

z_z

raynebc Apr 26, 2006

That's fraud, whether the seller meant to do it or not..  As for the debate about whether something is worth a given amount, supply and demand just about covers it all.  Different countries don't necessarily share the same supply and demand.

seanne Apr 26, 2006

LuxKiller65 wrote:

If one doesn't like the price and knows where to get the same OST cheaper, then off he/she goes, no?

Not everyone might know what a certain CD usually goes for though. Someone might think that $50 is a good price for a used copy of the "Time & Space - A Tribute to Yasunori Mitsuda" CD (aka. CHRONO CROSS TRIGGER ARRANGEMENT XENOGEARS SOUNDTRAOCK). Someone might not know that you can get a new copy from the official site for $12 and proceeds to purchase it. This someone will most certainly be less than happy when he finds out the truth.

LuxKiller65 Apr 26, 2006 (edited Apr 26, 2006)

It's not that I want to defend Princess-Isabela (I don't even know her), but as long as she sells legal material which gets advertised in a decent way in her descriptions, I don't really see what's wrong with having incredibly high prices.

If you want to buy from her and agree with the prices, fine; if you think she's mad with her prices, fine too.

I always think about how much these shoes I bought at 100 EUR have costed to produce... not more than 20 EUR for sure. Isn't this fraud too? Isn't everything we buy everyday a fraud? It doens't make any sense, nobody told anybody to buy.

You'll see that if nobody is "stupid" enough to buy her material, she'll either low her prices or keep the material forever in a closet.

It's just so annoying when people come to me and say "I've just seen the same item you're selling at 60 $ and yours' going for 80 $, you're a criminal!". I mean, come on.

raynebc Apr 26, 2006

Ditto, you have no right to say what price somebody else is allowed to sell their merchandise for.  It's not like soundtracks are a federally-regulated commodity.  And for the most part, it is the consumer's responsibility to do their own research as to current market value for a product before buying it.  Now if the seller claims something that is untrue, like he has the best price, guaranteed, that is when a buyer would have the right to call the seller on it if a discrepancy came up.  Otherwise, a seller has no obligation but to fulfill their end of the contract by providing the product equivalent to their description for the price specified.

Princess-Isabela Apr 26, 2006

thanks guys.
and for the record - Yasunori Mitsuda tribute ost just got reprinted by oneups recently, that means they are selling 2nd print, when I got it, its been out of print and I paid naturally more for it, I'm selling very first print from 2003, so the product might be slightly different from what you can order new from the store.

jb Apr 26, 2006

Two points to make for both sides here:

She's pretty much free to charge whatever she wants, they're her cds.  If you don't want them, don't buy them.  It's as simple as that.  However I think the majority of the people here get upset for the simple reason that we're all well versed in the prices and rarity of soundtracks.  It's like a slap in the face to us who know what we're doing.  I don't mind someone making a buck off the average stupid ebayer, but well, I don't think any of us here are the average stupid ebayer; especially in respect to video game soundtracks.  I mean, it's why we're here afterall. wink

~jb

seanne Apr 26, 2006

Princess-Isabela wrote:

thanks guys.
and for the record - Yasunori Mitsuda tribute ost just got reprinted by oneups recently, that means they are selling 2nd print, when I got it, its been out of print and I paid naturally more for it, I'm selling very first print from 2003, so the product might be slightly different from what you can order new from the store.

Oh, I didn't realise that there was any differance between the two. Since they seem to have the same cat. number and all.

jb wrote:

I don't mind someone making a buck off the average stupid ebayer, but well, I don't think any of us here are the average stupid ebayer; especially in respect to video game soundtracks.

It's not like anyone here was born with this information though. We've all been "stupid eBayers" at one point.

avatar! Apr 26, 2006

jb wrote:

She's pretty much free to charge whatever she wants, they're her cds.  If you don't want them, don't buy them.  It's as simple as that. 
~jb

I agree, everyone is entitled to charge whatever he or she want for a CD, however it doesn't mean that the price is not insulting.  Now, you might say it's only insulting because we're well versed in the prices of soundtracks (which is usually, but not always the case).  Still, what about a kid who happens to see the CD on ebay and says "woah, I'll never see this again!"  I feel that this kind of action (selling similar items for many times the price of a brand new item) hurts those of us who like to trade and enjoy music.    I understand Princess-Isabela may have paid more for the item than $12, but I'm guessing it wasn't nearly $50!  Also, what if she included in the auction the line "Hey!  This is a collector's 1st printing!  A second printing is available for $12, but this is the very first, limited printing!"  Think anyone would purchase it then?  Highly unlikely you have to admit, although possible.  I also think entrepreneurs are entitled to make their fair share of money, but this kind of behavior (in my personal opinion) is a bit on the low side.

BY THE WAY!!  Check out Chudahs-Corner, and you'll see that they list 2 copies of Time and Space.  The ORIGINAL Time and Space had 20 tracks!!   => The one Princess-Isabela is selling is the "remaster" version, which has 18 tracks AND is identical to the one that is offered for $11.99!!  Except of course that the brand new copy for $11.99 is a second printing.   

1st original version (which is NOT for sale by Princess-Isabela):
http://chudahs-corner.com/soundtracks/i … og=OUS_001

2nd version (also available as a reprint):
http://chudahs-corner.com/soundtracks/i … g=OUS_001b

Well, enough ranting for now.  Be well everyone!

-avatar!

raynebc Apr 27, 2006

That's just it.  Smart shoppers don't buy something for the first price they see, they do some work to find out if there's a better deal.

TerraEpon Apr 27, 2006

There is, however, a difference between tossing something up on Ebay for a bit (A BIT) more and not syaing anything, and giving a 400% markup and claiming RARE RARE RARE when it's easily available.


-Joshua

Zane Apr 27, 2006

I claim douchebaggery!

Things like this just really get under my skin, especially after dealing with other awesome sellers on eBay and from this board; several are even posting in this thread. It's one thing to throw things on eBay to make some cash; it's another to jack up the prices for unbeknownst customers to get suckered into paying; and it's even another thing when the prices are jacked up so ridiculously high and then are shoved in our faces as if we, people who are actually interested and educateded people, wouldn't know that paying $50 for an OUS CD is a f---ing joke.

That last part is just insulting.

While we're at it, I have some blank CD-Rs to sell. $5 each plus shipping, or $10 postpaid. These fuckers are rare.

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