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jurgen Jan 10, 2009

Sorry to bump this old thread, but are the results ever going to be posted? I think enough people have contributed to this thread already to make a comprehensive list.

Angela Apr 19, 2009

Vaeran wrote:

I guess this has been abandoned.

Seems that way.  GoldfishX hasn't exactly been a frequent regular here these days, either. 

Ah well.  This still makes a good reference point for all our all-time faves.

Crash Apr 19, 2009

I just did a summary of what was posted here, and here is what I came up with.  This assumes a point structure of 30 points for a first-place vote, 29 points for a second-place vote, and so on down.  I tried to combine titles as best I could, but there may have been some overlap that I missed.  Here were the top 50, with the number of points in parentheses.

1. Final Fantasy VI Original Sound Version (396 points)
2. Chrono Trigger Original Sound Version (228 points)
3. Rockman 2 (227 points)
4. Xenogears Original Soundtrack (221 points)
5. Final Fantasy IV Original Sound Version (219 points)
6. Akumajo Dracula X ~Nocturne in the Moonlight~ Original Game Soundtrack (174 points)
7. Dracula Battle Perfect Selection (171 points)
8. Castlevania IV (167 points)
9. Genso Suikoden - Original Soundtrack (166 points)
10. Final Fantasy VIII OST (158 points)
11. Seiken Densetsu 2 Original Sound Version (141 points)
T-12. Chrono Cross Original Soundtrack (131 points)
T-12. Final Fantasy Tactics Original Soundtrack (131 points)
14. Ys ~ The Oath in Felghana OST (116 points)
15. Silent Hill 2 Original Soundtracks (114 points)
16. Vagrant Story OST (112 points)
17. SaGa Frontier II Original Soundtrack (111 points)
18. Einhänder Original Soundtrack (109 points)
19. Xenogears CREID (108 points)
20. Final Fantasy X Original Soundtrack (105 points)
21. Final Fantasy VIII Fithos Lusec Wecos Vinosec (104 points)
22. Perfect Collection Ys (102 points)
23. Final Fantasy VII OST (101 points)
24. Earthbound (90 points)
25. Silent Hill 4: The Room OST (88 points)
26. Silent Hill Original Soundtracks (86 points)
27. Silent Hill 3 Original Soundtracks (85 points)
28. Streets of Rage 2 (82 points)
T-29. Final Fantasy IX Original Soundtrack (75 points)
T-29. Phantasy Star Sound Collection (disc 2) (75 points)
31. Final Fantasy XII Original Soundtrack (74 points)
32. Ys IV Perfect Collection Vol. 1 (73 points)
33. Super Metroid Sound in Action (72 points)
34. Secret of Mana + (71 points)
T-35. Legend of Mana ost (70 points)
T-35. Metal Gear Solid OST (70 points)
37. Guilty Gear X: Heavy Rock Tracks (69 points)
T-38. Katamari Damacy Original Soundtrack, "Katamari Fortissimo Damacy" (68 points)
T-38. Shadow of the Colossus OST (68 points)
40. Rockman X (67 points)
T-41. Parasite Eve Original Soundtrack (66 points)
T-41. Sonic Adventure 2 Original Soundtrack (66 points)
T-43. Dracula Battle II Perfect Selection (65 points)
T-43. King of Fighters '96 Arrange Trax (65 points)
45. Okami Original Soundtrack (64 points)
46. F-ZERO X Guitar Arrange Edition (62 points)
T-47. Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater Original Soundtrack (61 points)
T-47. Seiken Densetsu 3 OSV (61 points)
T-47. Star Ocean: The Second Story Original Soundtrack (61 points)
T-50. Shadow Hearts Original Soundtracks plus 1 (60 points)
T-50. Ys III PC Engine Redbook (60 points)

Grassie Apr 20, 2009

Very nice work, Crash. smile

This list finally proves that FF6 has the best soundtrack of all times.

Vaeran Apr 20, 2009

Closure at last!

Seriously though, thanks for putting the work in to do this, Crash. Though the list is predictably a little Final Fantasy-heavy, there's still a fair bit of variety to be found. I think every entertainment media-based hobby needs its agreed-upon list of essential classics, and it's nice to have something we can point to and say "these are the albums you need to hear at least once," (and actually... as I look at it, I'm embarrassed to say there are a couple on there I haven't heard yet).

And yeah, FF6 is totally the best album ever.

Jodo Kast Apr 20, 2009 (edited Apr 20, 2009)

Of the 50 that Crash has compiled, I'm familiar with all of them except for Katamari Damacy and Okami. And Shadow of the Colossus.

Idolores Apr 20, 2009

Jodo Kast wrote:

Of the 50 that Crash has compiled, I'm familiar with all of them except for Katamari Damacy and Okami. And Shadow of the Colossus.

All of them are amazing soundtracks. Very different styles for each one, though. I recommend all three. smile

Ashley Winchester Apr 20, 2009

Am I the only one that finds it funny that three out of four Silent Hill soundtracks fell one after another in the list?

Daniel K Apr 20, 2009 (edited Apr 20, 2009)

Grassie wrote:

This list finally proves that FF6 has the best soundtrack of all times.

No, if it proves anything at all, its that democracy just doesn't work.

EDIT: Also, LOL at the Square-heaviness of the list. Time to party like its still 1999 or something.

Ashley Winchester Apr 20, 2009

Daniel K wrote:

Also, LOL at the Square-heaviness of the list. Time to party like its still 1999 or something.

Granted, this may not be appropraite, but I have to admit I got a chuckle that one since I agree for the most part.

Eirikr Apr 20, 2009

Daniel K wrote:
Grassie wrote:

This list finally proves that FF6 has the best soundtrack of all times.

No, if it proves anything at all, its that democracy just doesn't work.

EDIT: Also, LOL at the Square-heaviness of the list. Time to party like its still 1999 or something.

Best is always relative, but denying Square's place in "pop" game music denies your own experience in the hobby!

Daniel K Apr 20, 2009 (edited Apr 20, 2009)

Eirikr wrote:

Best is always relative, but denying Square's place in "pop" game music denies your own experience in the hobby!

I wasn't thinking of Square's place in "pop" game music, I was thinking of Square's place in our community of experienced and die-hard VGM fans. Disregarding the odd-man-out like Earthbound, the list could've been published by IGN or something (maybe if you replaced King of Fighters '96 and Shadow Hearts with Halo and random Tommy Tallarico score). smile

I'm not being cranky about the list or anything, I'm just mildly amused by the fact that it in essence (the series, companies, and composers represented, etc.) looks very much like it would've if we'd done it ten or five years ago, like time hasn't moved. It would've been nice to see some more obscure entries make it into the top 50 (and yeah, I know that the most popular soundtracks are bound to receive high scores simply because they occur in many people's lists, which automatically puts more obscure, "cult classic" scores at a disadvantage).

Daniel K Apr 20, 2009

Don't get me wrong, though, its a good list with very much quality in it. Its just a bit boring and very predictable.

And seriously, not one Atlus-score? *throws a hysterical fit*

GoldfishX Apr 20, 2009

I'M NOT DEAD YET!!! Just...no topics of real interest (save for Street Fighter IV OST and I'm kinda tired of the music from playing the game) and the goofy password system at STC makes me too lazy to re-log in when I reset my cookies unless there's something of interest. So I've been here awhile.

Thanks Crash for taking over. I've been busy plus I lost some enthusiasm towards the project due to some stupid drama at a few other boards I frequent where I posted this(none here, thankfully). It kinda tipped the scales in favor of "let it float and concentrate on real life stuff, especially if people are going to bitch anyway". That said, I also wanted to see the results and you took care of that nicely.

Surprises:

Genso Suikoden at #9 (happy fanboy squeal...always found this one underappreciated)
Oath in Felghana at #14
Einhander at #18
Earthbound at #24 (wow)
Ys IV Perfect Collection Vol. 1 wins that race...Was curious which one would come out on top.


Daniel K wrote:

Don't get me wrong, though, its a good list with very much quality in it. Its just a bit boring and very predictable.

As is Martin Popoff's book, which lists the top 500 heavy metal albums as voted. The reason I originally wanted to do 500 was once you got past the "obvious" stuff, you see where "everything else" lies. I'm still pulling gems from the "everything else" section of the book and I've had it over a year and a half now (I had heard much of the "obvious" already). As Vaeran said though, this serves as a decent "canon" for someone brand new to the hobby, which is kinda what I wanted. I have no real complaints about the final tally.

Hope no one was at all surprised what the #1 soundtrack was.

Adam Corn Apr 20, 2009

Mad props to Crash for tallying all those votes.  It's great to finally see some results!

Nobody is actually, seriously surprised at the Square heaviness of the list, are they?  It seems like a pretty well established trend that people look at the '90s as the "golden era" of game music, and with various Square soundtracks from that time being the ones that got a lot of us interested in game music in the first place, it's entirely expected to see a lot of Square soundtracks in there even if a lot of our tastes have changes in recent years.  That said I think there's a lot more variety than you see in most lists of this sort, and saying it's the same as something from IGN or the like is an unfair exaggeration in my opinion.

Things that I AM surprised/intrigued by:

There's not a lot of love for arranged albums on the list.  Since OSTs get the most exposure I guess it's to be expected though.  Just for kicks here are the ones that did make it.  (Let me know if I missed any.)

7.  Dracula Battle Perfect Selection
14. Ys ~ The Oath in Felghana OST (sort of an arranged album)
19. Xenogears CREID
21. Final Fantasy VIII Fithos Lusec Wecos Vinosec
22. Perfect Collection Ys
32. Ys IV Perfect Collection Vol. 1
33. Super Metroid Sound in Action (first several tracks)
34. Secret of Mana +
37. Guilty Gear X: Heavy Rock Tracks
43. Dracula Battle II Perfect Selection
43. King of Fighters '96 Arrange Trax
46. F-ZERO X Guitar Arrange Edition

I'm quite surprised to see FFVIII OST ahead of FFVII, not just from a personal standpoint but from a popularity aspect.  I figure that soundtrack must have rode on FFVII's coattails.  (You FFVIII fans can shoot me for that.)

There's a not a single Dragon Quest soundtrack in the results.  Had I known then what I know now I would have included DQIV Symphonic Suite along with DQ Live Best on my own list.

I'm surprised to see relatively minor titles like Ys Oath in Felghana and Saga Frontier II so high up there.  I knew they were popular but not THAT popular.  After getting burnt by a few of my recent Ys additions (Ys II Perfect Collection, Ys I & II Eternal, Symphony Ys 21st Century) I might have to dip into Felghana OST and hopefully restore my faith in the series.

Good stuff altogether!

Daniel K Apr 20, 2009

Adam Corn wrote:

That said I think there's a lot more variety than you see in most lists of this sort, and saying it's the same as something from IGN or the like is an unfair exaggeration in my opinion.

The only reason for that is that lists on sites like IGN and the like are usually Top 5 or 10 or (if they're really stretching it) 20. To put it in that perspective, take a look at our top 10 and tell me again you couldn't imagine seeing this on IGN:

1. Final Fantasy VI Original Sound Version
2. Chrono Trigger Original Sound Version
3. Rockman 2
4. Xenogears Original Soundtrack
5. Final Fantasy IV Original Sound Version
6. Akumajo Dracula X ~Nocturne in the Moonlight~ Original Game Soundtrack
7. Dracula Battle Perfect Selection
8. Castlevania IV
9. Genso Suikoden - Original Soundtrack
10. Final Fantasy VIII OST

Hmm... What do we have here? 4 albums with Uematsu, 2 Mitsuda, 3 Castlevania, more than half of them are RPGs, only 3 companies are represented (Square, Konami, Capcom), all are Japanese, most released in the 1995 - 1999 period. Yup, variety, right there. tongue The only surprise if this was a list on a mainstream gaming site would be #7, since that's an arrange album and they're usually oblivious to those.

SonicPanda Apr 20, 2009

Really, the only thing that made me double-take was Sonic Adventure 2 being the only one from the franchise in the top 50. SA1 and Rush was ROBBED, I tells ya.

Razakin Apr 21, 2009

Daniel K wrote:

Hmm... What do we have here?

Ten good/brilliant albums, nothing more, nothing less. :P

Daniel K Apr 21, 2009

Razakin wrote:
Daniel K wrote:

Hmm... What do we have here?

Ten good/brilliant albums, nothing more, nothing less. tongue

Yes, I totally agree with that (with the exception of #10, FF8 OST, yuck).

TerraEpon wrote:

I'd love to see the full results from all the forums polled...

Same here. It was fun to see our own forum's list, but really, the validity of such a survey is stronger the more people participated, and by taking 5 forums into account you also decrease the chance for "closed cult"-tendencies, as different VGM communities may have different overall tastes.

Goldfish, ya lazy bum, you should finish what you started, you owe us that after creating the expectations. Get your ass in gear. tongue

GoldfishX Apr 21, 2009

Honestly, I'm too busy now and I lack the motivation. If someone wants to take up the project and finish it off, they can go ahead. As long as I get credit for the idea (or rather, credit for ripping off the idea and applying it to VGM...heh heh) and starting it, I'm satisfied. I'd prefer to see 500, but...lol, everything thinks it's too much, so whatever.

I never did get around to posting this is at OCRemix (probably because I don't frequent the boards there and don't really know too many people there).

yuzoboy Apr 21, 2009 (edited Apr 21, 2009)

28. Streets of Rage 2 (82 points)

Go Yuzo!

Would have expect Actraiser Symphony Suite up there too:)

Crash Apr 21, 2009

I'm looking at the other forums, and will try to compile the total results later.  I don't see this thread at Chudah's Corner, but I think that was because the site redesign wiped out the old forums.

Just at STC, I counted 544 different entries (this is an upper bound; I probably missed some overlap).  100th place was 34 points, so anything after that gets a little dicey.  If any person nominated one soundtrack as #1 and no one else even mentioned it (which happened a few times), it would get 30 points.

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