Daniel K wrote: Amazingu wrote:
Holy shit, Silent Hill 2 got pushed back to 38!?
I like the diversity in the lower half of the list, but the upper half is just bad. And how about that top 20? 9 Final Fantasy albums, 14 Square albums. Holy Jeebus! We haven't progressed one bit. We're still in the jungle here, we're doomed. *cue stereotypical J-RPG villain speech about how this corrupt world must be cleansed with fires of destruction*
I guess my other comment was too nice and went kind of unnoticed so I'll put my point more explicitly: stop being an elitist prick. I mean, really.
Sure, there are elitists in any hobby, just because there are always people way more into it than others. I raise my hand there as far as being way more into VGM is concerned, and probably most of the people who frequent this board would as well. The problem is, this community is way too small, and the annoying stinkers seem far, far bigger.
Who gives a shit if people like the music they like? I'm going to venture a bit of a guess here -- a lot of us started collecting and actively listening to game music during the PlayStation era (you know, the one that was dominated by Square). I'll have to raise my hand again there. In fact, all of my first albums purchased were from Square games like FFVIII, FFIV, and Xenogears (and were all bootlegs too, but that's neither here nor there).
This should be VGM 101, but the rise of the Internet and more active availability of merchandise along with the contemporary popularity of Square's stuff probably lead a lot of people to order CD like I did instead of the soundtrack to some obscure Konami shooter. Sure, NOW I wish I would have ordered Gradius Gaiden instead, but I hadn't played that game then and wouldn't have had the memories of the it and the emotions attached to the music, which is probably another reason so many of these old Square albums still stick. No one who loves Final Fantasy is going to listen to say, Silent Hill 2, and just immediately forget Final Fantasy exists. To repeat, we are partying like it's 1999 because guess what -- that's around when we joined the party! In fact, that's me exactly-- I ordered FFVIII in the fall of '99.
And really, we must have "progressed" a little bit because I don't really see much in the way of more recent Square stuff on the list, besides obvious ones like Kingdom Hearts. For me at least, that's because most of their new games past the main series FFs sucked and I really haven't played them. In fact, I'd say our top VGM lists are just as equally indicative of our habits as gamers and game music listeners. If I had done a list, it would have been filled to the brim with Konami shooters, Castlevania, Mega Man, and of course some Final Fantasy thrown in there, while being topped off with Vagrant Story -- those of course being my favorite games of all time. I don't think I could have even placed my more recent favorites from the Shin Megami Tensei series like Nocturne and P4 in a top 10 just because they don't yet resonate with me like the old classics from the past do. They just need time.
I guess if the game music community doesn't recognize enough obscure stuff for you to be happy with, go listen to commercial jingles or something instead. Oh wait, you'd probably be pissed when some forum list chose the Alka Seltzer jingle over whatever "better" song you had in mind.
But sorry dude, I hate ratting on anyone in the VGM community because my VGM hobby is something I'm really proud of and have enjoyed ever since I first recorded Secret of Mana off the TV. But I think it should be a hobby anyone should be allowed to enjoy without being judged, because music taste is quite subjective; yet, the more ubiquitous stuff will always find more of a common ground than the obscure.