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Dais Sep 21, 2007

Yakuza 2 is coming to the states.

Bangai-O Spirits is looking extremely promising.

Populous DS has been announced, although it has not yet been shown in any form.

But the absolute, best, totally excellent you-must-own-a-DS-after-this-news-item to come out of TGS:

Shiren the Wanderer DS is confirmed for a US release.

And if you love games, it will be yours.

GoldfishX Sep 21, 2007

Dais wrote:

Bangai-O Spirits is looking extremely promising.

Can't wait. Great news indeed.

Shiren the Wanderer DS is confirmed for a US release.

Question from the audience: What makes Shiren the Wanderer different from the rest of the games that have the title "Mysterious Dungeon"? Not that it looks bad, but I'm assuming there's more to it than screenshots tell me.

Dais Sep 21, 2007

The original Shiren (the one this is a port and 'remix' of) was the second Mysterious Dungeon game, and is still considered one of the best. It represents a very well-thought out refinement of the formula seen in the first Torneko MD game, and exists before Chunsoft began to expand the formula in ways that might really be considered objectionable.

There are four MD games currently released in the US:

-Torneko for PSX was developed by Chunsoft, but is generally considered to be a less challenging game than Shiren
-Chocobo's Mysterious Dungeon (2) was not developed by Chunsoft
-Nightmare of Druaga has some notable fundamental differences in terms of gameplay design, and Chunsoft co-developed it with Arika and Matrix Software
-Pokemon Mystery Dungeon was developed by Chunsoft, but....well, it's Pokemon, and because of that it's focused on considerably different things than the Shiren series (the main game is much less challenging, there's more of a focus on party combat, items are only really important in the post-game dungeons)

Basically, Shiren is simply a purer, more focused game than the ones you've likely seen so far. Perhaps more than any other game I've ever seen, it forces you - and helps you - to get better at the game, to learn how to handle all the problems the game will throw at you, to figure out how to get the most out of your resources. It has a arcade-like mentality of struggling, dying, and struggling again - but in a way that's much less frustrating than the average shoot-em-up or such, partially because death doesn't mean a total end to your game (indeed, some of the subquests require you to die multiple times, which you likely will). The more you play the game, the more you will realize that situations that iniatially seemed unfair simply required a different kind of thinking. In many ways it's like almost like a puzzle game - one with a wonderful atmosphere and a charming musical score.

If you don't believe me, I strongly urge you to do the unthinkable and emulate the game with the AGTP translation patch. It is well, well worth it to sink at least an hour of your time into the game, to try and understand it on it's own terms instead of that of other dungeon crawlers/mysterious dungeon games you have played. It's pretty much a certifiable classic. (just make sure not to use save states - in addition to causing some notable game glitches, it just isn't the way the game should be played. seriously)

I will concede at this point that the DS version of the game has undergone some notable balance changes and tweaks, such as the ability to return to previous floors and other things. But it has also added some new and unpredictable enemies, and I believe the bonus dungeons (the real challenge of the game, where everything you learn is tested) have been made even more interesting. I certainly haven't heard anything bad about the game from importers, and I expect that to stay much the same in the US - aside from those people who stubbornly refuse to learn from their experiences in the game.

Idolores Sep 21, 2007

Yakuza 2?! Are you serious?! That's probably the best news I've had all day!

And Bangai-O sounds cool. I missed the first one on N64 and the Dreamcast, so maybe I'll check that out first, though. big_smile

So happy right now big_smile

Qui-Gon Joe Sep 21, 2007

Any word of the Wii Shiren coming to the US too?

GoldfishX Sep 22, 2007

Thanks Dais...I've seen nothing but hate for all of the games you mentioned (though mind you, the majority of it coming from EGM and Game Informer...*insert laughter here*) and I hated Azure Dreams and sort of liked Puyo Dungeon, but this does sound like a pretty promising time sink.

But damn...I'm much more excited for DS Bangai-O! Will it be a port or *gasp* all new?

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