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Pellasos Feb 12, 2010

been playing White Knight Chronicles for the last few days. I'd say it's a nice mix of traditional JRPG and MMORPG, or FF XII done right. the story mode seems to be fairly short i hear, but i haven't finished it yet. the biggest chunk of the game lies in the online portion. you get to solve 50 online quests either alone, or online with your buddies/random people. the other part is the housing system (georama), where you develop your own estate. other players can visit you, use your shops and get some crafting materials for themselves.

the main quest is pretty easy, i hear the real challenge comes with the online quests later on. this game is massive, you can spend endless hours on it.

Sami Feb 12, 2010

Playing Crystal Bearers, I've been surprised at how good it is after the negative reviews. The characters are great, and there's a lot of variety to the gameplay, and of course the music is superb.

Also been playing some retro games. Contra 1 is easier than I remembered but still no pushover, Contra Shattered Soldier still tough as nails, and Batman on the NES is just insanely difficult.

Crash Feb 12, 2010

I'm going back through Skies of Arcadia Legends on the GC.  I played through the DC version back in 2001, and I've always wanted to play through it again.  I must say that I like the new additions to this version.

allyourbaseare Feb 12, 2010

Pellasos wrote:

been playing White Knight Chronicles for the last few days. I'd say it's a nice mix of traditional JRPG and MMORPG, or FF XII done right.

I couldn't disagree more.  The Gambit system gave you so much more control over your characters while in WKC, you have 5 pre-set "options."  As it is now, battles are slash -> wait -> slash -> wait -> support character occasionally casts "heal" -> end battle.  While the game is fun and definitely feels like a JRPG, it's a step backwards from FFXII.

Pellasos Feb 12, 2010

even if it's just slash/wait/combo/wait/heal, i feel like i'm doing much more to contribute to the winning of a fight. in FF XII, you could just setup your gambits and lay back. you basically just walked to the next location, the rest was AI fighting.

Idolores Feb 12, 2010

Pellasos wrote:

even if it's just slash/wait/combo/wait/heal, i feel like i'm doing much more to contribute to the winning of a fight. in FF XII, you could just setup your gambits and lay back. you basically just walked to the next location, the rest was AI fighting.

I agree with this wholly. About my only contribution to fighting was preparation. The game was tough, until I got the Gambit system down pat. Then, some boss fights, I could literally put the controller on the ground, go make something to eat, sit back, and watch the game play itself. As impressive as that may seem, it isn't conducive to fun in my opinion.

Ashley Winchester Feb 12, 2010

Idolores wrote:
Pellasos wrote:

even if it's just slash/wait/combo/wait/heal, i feel like i'm doing much more to contribute to the winning of a fight. in FF XII, you could just setup your gambits and lay back. you basically just walked to the next location, the rest was AI fighting.

I agree with this wholly. About my only contribution to fighting was preparation. The game was tough, until I got the Gambit system down pat. Then, some boss fights, I could literally put the controller on the ground, go make something to eat, sit back, and watch the game play itself. As impressive as that may seem, it isn't conducive to fun in my opinion.

You know, when playing what little I played of FFXII I couldn't help but think how great the gambit system would have worked in a game like Star Ocean 3. The ally AI on that game leaves something to be desired and having more control over them in an indirect way would have been great.

Still, when do you think you'll be allowed to have friends control the other characters? Not on the same TV/screen of course, but on-line.

SonicPanda Mar 22, 2010

RISE FROM YOUR GRAVE

Finally got around to trying the first Ouendan this weekend after having it sit there for a few months. It's pretty good, but I'm also finding it to be easier than it's been hyped to be. The prevailing theory online is that EBA is the easy one, but in two days I've already whipped up to Cleopatra's stage with the cheerleaders, and I've only been playing at night. Maybe Ouendan vets thought EBA was easier because they played it after they'd gotten initiated? Maybe the reverse is why Ouendan seems easy to me now (although right now, Cleo can go jump off a cliff - man, the back half of that stage on Cheerleader mode...)? Certainly nothing here seems as nasty as Jumpin' Jack Flash or Survivor, though.

I don't think I like the characters as much as EBA's, even the cheerleaders are more...'business-like' than the Agents & Divas, which saps some of the fun. Plus, no Kahn. That's a huge minus right there. Some of the stage-centric stuff is great, though - every time I see the pottery guy do his hip-hop phase I smile.

Favorite song/stage is probably the office lady's, it's catchy as all hell. That stupid horse song/stage on the other hand, is the pits.

As something to scratch my Agent itch, it works, but I still prefer my Blues Brothers. I know Angela says Ouendan 2 is the best of the lot, so that's something to look forward to. I even got an Action Replay so I can put the Agents in and pretend it's EBA 2!

....sigh.

Ashley Winchester Apr 5, 2010

I finished up Breath of Fire II on the GBA last night. The last time I played it was 1996 when I rented the SNES version and the game is still all kinds awesome. Love the storyline, then again, I've always been a sucker for stories about taking down false religions. Don't read to much into that last part.

Ashley Winchester Apr 24, 2010

OK, I'm getting really, really mad at The Dracula X Chronicles. It wold be real nice if I could beat Stage 4, but nooooo I keep coming up a tad short on the boss.

Amazingu Apr 24, 2010

Ashley Winchester wrote:

OK, I'm getting really, really mad at The Dracula X Chronicles. It wold be real nice if I could beat Stage 4, but nooooo I keep coming up a tad short on the boss.

Do what I did: find Maria, switch to her, and never ever EVER touch Richter again.

Ashley Winchester Apr 24, 2010

Amazingu wrote:
Ashley Winchester wrote:

OK, I'm getting really, really mad at The Dracula X Chronicles. It wold be real nice if I could beat Stage 4, but nooooo I keep coming up a tad short on the boss.

Do what I did: find Maria, switch to her, and never ever EVER touch Richter again.

Haha... crazy thing is I liked Richter in Symphony. If only you could aim up and diag with the whip, it would make a world of difference. What I really want to do is play Symphony even though I have it on the PS1, I'm interested in the new VA and translation.

I also started Mega Man X Maverick Hunter. Starting Sigma's palace and I'm really ho-hum on this one. Outside the boss conversations and a few little things (Launch Octopus' hilarious hit animation, the awesome wall climb animation [don't know why I find it so awesome] and how Spark Mandrill is even more pathetic than before [he doesn't even have a chance to damage you now if you have the Shotgun Ice]) there isn't much to say. Now I can legitimately say I'm glad they didn't get to do X2 and X3 on the PSP now that I've played it. It only took me, what, two years to get the PSP after buying the game from you mike?

Idolores Apr 24, 2010

Ashley Winchester wrote:

Now I can legitimately say I'm glad they didn't get to do X2 and X3 on the PSP now that I've played it.

I agree. Less is more with Megaman X, it seems. I didn't like the added voices and 2D Megaman in 3D graphics just seems expressionless and soulless to me. I'll be avoiding Powered Up for the same reasons.

The remixed music isn't bad and remains very faithful, which I'm always happy to hear. I do prefer some of the originals though.

Grassie Apr 24, 2010

I've been playing Dragon Age: Origins on and off for the last 2 - 3 months, I think. I haven't played any of the other BioWare games, excpet a small attempt at Baldur's Gate som years ago, but I guess I will this summer. If I want to prioritate gaming, that is.

In short, Dragon Age is probably the best RPG I've played. Perhaps also the best game I've played, but it's not fair to compare it to, for example, Tetris Attack. At least considering the fact that Tetris Attack is substantially more interesting to play together with friends, also after a drink or two, than Dragon Age: Origins. 

It took me a while to get used to the controls, but now it feels pretty natural. After 20 hours of gaming. I guess I am a little slow. Anyway, the plot is nice, the characters are colorful and interesting, the graphics are OK, the fantasy world is much better than what I've encoutered in similar games (like Morrowind, Oblivion), and the gameplay is...

Well, you level up, you collect abilities, you buy better equipment, you know the deal. I don't like it. It distract me, draws my attention away from the most interesting parts of the game - the characters, or the interaction with them. But it would've been boring without the RPG elements. Oh well.

If you want to get a taste, try out the mage.

Bernhardt Apr 24, 2010 (edited Apr 24, 2010)

Been hitting up the Wii VC for a lot of things, mostly games I've played before, but never finished, and games I've never played before.

I beat Super Mario Bros. 3 for the first time in my life, in thanks partly to the fact that the Wii creates save states; finished the game in about 3 sittings. Some of these games, I would NEVER finish if it weren't for the fact that the Wii creates save states.

I went through EVERY SINGLE LAST LEVEL - even the ones you could skip - and I didn't look up any information on cheats, e.g., for the card games, or anything.

There were 2-3 non-linear levels that I DID look up walkthroughs for, simply because I COULD NOT, FOR THE LIFE OF ME, figure them out. One of them was that fortress that's COMPLETELY EMPTY except for the boss (had to fly upwards to find a pipe), and another one was the Dark World Fortress (it's difficult to navigate, besides just being a COMPLETE AND TOTAL DEATH TRAP).

A lot of things, I just relied on for memory - like the magic whistles (which I never used) - and how to defeat Bowser - someone showed me how to do it before.

All considered, I'm still glad I finished SMB3 by ANY measure.

...

Metroid

Moving onto this, next. Used to have this game, too, but never could finish it.

It's amazing how they expected you to navigate this game without an in-game map, and without any clues how to get to some items. Finding the first Ice Beam in the game is one of those things you wouldn't find out for yourself unless YOU TRIED BOMBING EVERY WALL AND FLOOR THAT YOU COULD. I eventually had to look up a walkthrough to find it.

It's so gratifying when you finally move onto areas with different scenery and music.

Re-stocking energy tanks is so difficult after they become depleted.

...

Legend of Zelda II ~ Adventures of Link

The game's actually called just "Zelda II ~ Adventures of Link," it's kind of like, can we stick with same naming scheme for sequels? Star Tropics did a similar thing, with putting the subtitle BEFORE the game's title, as in "Zoda's Revenge ~ Star Tropics II." Wankers!

ANYWAY, the last Summer I owned my NES, I got up to the 6th, that is, second-to-last temple in the game: "The Third Eye Temple." And I could never get past it.

But now? I actually have a chance to FINISH this game, ONCE AND FOR ALL!

Too bad I'm stuck trying to navigate the Death Mountains, and I just keep going in circles. I'd like to figure it out for myself, but I'm probably just going to hit a walk through for it, but if I'm feeling REALLY ambitious, I might end up pencil-and-papering it to figure it out myself.

...

Ashley Winchester wrote:

I finished up Breath of Fire II on the GBA last night. The last time I played it was 1996 when I rented the SNES version and the game is still all kinds awesome. Love the storyline, then again, I've always been a sucker for stories about taking down false religions. Don't read to much into that last part.

SOCIAL COMMENTARY! (Highlighto):

My only problem with BoF II was how closely the St. Eva religion resembles Christianity, while the "Good" religion is supposed to be the Dragon; if you're familiar with mythology, Dragons are supposed to be Hell Spawn, at least, in Western mythology, while Eastern mythology contends that there are such things as good dragons, and bad dragons.

Of course, when a Catholic pretty much runs me over trying to get to church (I could TELL they were Catholic from the crucifix motif they had posted on their van, with the initials of the church they go to), it really tells me, at least, they've misplaced their priorities, and most, that they're completely bleeding hypocrites who just use going to church as an excuse to claim that they're a good person.

If you want to take down false religions FOR REAL (pun not intended), there's always Scien-Cology! You shouldn't call it by the name they actually use, otherwise they'll hunt you down and harass you...but they can't touch me, 'cuz I speeled it rong! Dyametrix is a GREAT sci-fi novel!

*sigh*

Ashley Winchester Apr 24, 2010

Bernhardt wrote:

My only problem with BoF II was how closely the St. Eva religion resembles Christianity.

Actually, the fact that the St.Eva religion resembles Christianity so closely is why the game's storyline interests me so much. I mean when you go into people's houses in the game and all they can do is sing (i.e. regurgitate) praises of St.Eva, it's a case of art imitating life in my opinion.

Additionally, the scene in the Evrai church near the end of the game when Tiga and Claris are killed by Habaruku in front of a large congregation "as punushment by God" still sends shivers down my spine.

Considering the era the game was made in, I honestly don't know how it managed to get through Nintendo's criteria at the time. All I know is I'm glad it did.

Bernhardt Apr 24, 2010 (edited Apr 24, 2010)

Ashley Winchester wrote:
Bernhardt wrote:

My only problem with BoF II was how closely the St. Eva religion resembles Christianity.

Actually, the fact that the St.Eva religion resembles Christianity so closely is why the game's storyline interests me so much. I mean when you go into people's houses in the game and all they can do is sing (i.e. regurgitate) praises of St.Eva, it's a case of art imitating life in my opinion.

I gotta tell ya, I don't meet a whole lot of Christian people these days, or anyone devoutly religious, and piety is considered more along the lines of superstition...

And, of course, there's always Grandia II, and the religion of Granas. And Vagrant Story, and whatever church they mocked there. Oh, and Final Fantasy X has Yevon.

Ashley Winchester wrote:

Additionally, the scene in the Evrai church near the end of the game when Tiga and Claris are killed by Habaruku in front of a large congregation "as punishment by God" still sends shivers down my spine.

That scene was actually a tearjerker for me, as Tiga's crawling over to Claris before they die, and THEN Habaraku strikes them with lightning, effectively kicking them while they're down, and everyone in the audience is too cracked out to care. Y'know, I never finished that game; I could never figure out how to get Anfini.

Ashley Winchester wrote:

Considering the era the game was made in, I honestly don't know how it managed to get through Nintendo's criteria at the time. All I know is I'm glad it did.

The SNES was pretty much done for by the time the game came out; that, and it's not like they advertised the hell out of the possibly anti-Christian message, though I'm sure the message has to do more with the concept of blind obedience - at least that's the way I interpret it.

More so, the advertisements were more like "DRAGONS! RYU LOOKS LIKE CONAN THE BARBARIAN!"

...

Man, why hasn't the first BoF been released on Wii VC?!

It'd be nice if the original Star Fox was on Wii VC, too, even if each level is essentially the same blank field, colored differently, with a different array of obstacles thrown in.

The Mystical Ninja / Ganbare Goemon games on the N64 kicked ass, too, even if they were short. But the SNES Mystical Ninja, DAMN, that game KICKS my ass...

I'm also holding out for Chrono Trigger; I mean, hey, they released Secret of Mana, FFI, and FFIV on Wii VC. Heck, why not translate Secret of Mana 2 / Seiken Densetsu 3?!

Put the NES Dragon Quests on the list; I'm REALLY nostalgic for classic games, these days...

Idolores Apr 24, 2010

@Ash and Bern

You two are making me wanna play through the BoF games something fierce. I wish my copy of BoF4 still worked. ;_;

Bernhardt Apr 24, 2010 (edited Apr 24, 2010)

Idolores wrote:

@Ash and Bern

You two are making me wanna play through the BoF games something fierce. I wish my copy of BoF4 still worked. ;_;

Hell's yeah, man! Trying to decide if I wanna replay BoF II this Summer, or maybe this next Winter?

I SO missed out on BoF IV when it first came out; I just couldn't bring myself to pay the $40 price tag back then, even when I had the money...I now question why that was the case...

Heck, I never even finished BoF III; I got stuck at the first dungeon as adult Ryu, I couldn't defeat the Bone Dragon boss, and I just didn't feel like level-building; 2001-2004, I guess I'd just become really apathetic about gaming (I played BoF III somewhere within that time frame).

Man, I'm gonna get myself a PSP, if just so I can d-load all those classic PSX games...my passion for gaming is only rekindled by the classics!

Idolores Apr 25, 2010

Bernhardt wrote:

Heck, I never even finished BoF III; I got stuck at the first dungeon as adult Ryu, I couldn't defeat the Bone Dragon boss, and I just didn't feel like level-building; 2001-2004, I guess I'd just become really apathetic about gaming (I played BoF III somewhere within that time frame).

Off topic, but I always felt that Breath of Fire 3 is to this day an incredibly fresh experience. When broken down to it's baser salts, it really is just a traditional RPG with very few elements backing it to become something more (the apprentice system was really awesome, and the enemy skill system, while infuriating sometimes, was exciting), but something about the bright, vivid colours, amazing character design courtesy of Tatsuya Yoshikawa (I used to get him mixed up with Akira Yasuda all the time), the attention to detail in the environments and the happy, upbeat soundtrack all struck a huge chord in me.

the_miker Apr 25, 2010

Hey this thread is alive again!

I'm currently playing Shenmue for the first time.  I know I know, shame on me for never playing it before.  It's like the only "must play" Dreamcast title that I never bothered to play for some reason.  Guess I just wasn't into this kind of game when I was 16?  I actually did try it back in the day but just never finished it.  That's not gonna happen this time though.  I'm a ways into disc 2 and boy am I loving it so far.  This game, like many things from Sega before they stopped making consoles, was way ahead of its time.  Almost everything about this game could easily pass as a late PS2 game, especially the visuals and music quality.  The English voice acting however, early PS1 game at best, haha.

I plan on playing the Dreamcast version of Shenmue II down the road too, can't wait!  Not right away though.  Plenty more Dreamcast games to (re)play first!

Amazingu Apr 25, 2010

I always found the BoF series INCREDIBLY frustrating.
I never managed to get very far in 2, but I did finish 3 (by cheating) and it was an experience I never want to have to endure again.

High encounter rate, far too much leveling required, back attacks can practically wipe you out instantly if your level isn't insanely high, that's exactly what I hate about RPGs. Oh and the desert scene.
I'd like to thwack the guy responsible for that over the head with a sledgehammer.

5 did a lot of things really well, but was still far too much work, and the fact that it put an extremely tight leash around you by severely limiting save tokens (why the f--- do I need save tokens in an RPG anyway!?) did not sit well with me at all.

4 on the other hand was amazing. One of my all-time favorite RPGs on the PSX, go figure.

On-topic:

Currently playing Darksiders on 360 which is a fun, if extremely derivative, God of War/Devil May Cry/Legend of Zelda romp.

Persona 3 Portable on PSP is my first foray into the world of Persona, and it's great!
I can see why everyone is always hyping this.

Estpolis on DS is meh. I'm enjoying the nostalgia factor of the music and events (some of the dialogue remains completely unchanged) but the new system isn't nearly as much fun as the original game was.

Angela Apr 25, 2010

Just finished After Burner Climax.  I find it amusing that my four years worth of anticipation for wanting to play this game all boiled down to a mercilessly quick twenty minute session.  Hey, for $10, you get what you pay for.

Still, it's a great arcade experience while it lasts.  It looks great, and plays exactly like classic After Burner.  I'm thoroughly ashamed to admit that I'd forgotten how to do banking barrel rolls; my mindset was stuck in Star Fox mode, desperately tapping the shoulder buttons, when you're supposed to hold down left or right, and then quickly press into the opposite direction.  The "Climax" gameplay feature is superfluous in that, while it does give you an advantage on the offensive, it does nothing to speed yourself up for defensive tactics.  (Kudos to Kamiya for refining such an idea for Bayonetta.)

GoldfishX Apr 25, 2010

Today was official: The final day my group plays vanilla SF4. Moving onto greener pastures, with more ultras and characters come Tuesday.

Have also cracked open Sakura Wars V and I'm not disappointed in the least, although I am worried I'll miss a ton of stuff. Game was hard to find...I haven't seen a single copy in any of the Maryland Gamestops or Wal-Marts, but saw like 3 limited editions at one in DE. I'm gonna guess there's a low print run on it. Hope it doesn't hurt the chances of the rest of the games from coming over.

Oh and we smashed our way through Final Fight this weekend, between SF4 sessions. Very fun, as usual.

Angela Apr 25, 2010

GoldfishX wrote:

Today was official: The final day my group plays vanilla SF4. Moving onto greener pastures, with more ultras and characters come Tuesday.

I've gotta ask: do you do any online fighting?  If you ever want to take a shot at me......

I'm strictly SSFII HD Remix on 360, and planning Super IV for PS3 -- though I may go Super IV 360 eventually.

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