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Dragonfish Dog Nov 30, 2015

God help me, I just purchased Ar no Surge for the PS3, just because it was on sale for $20.

Between Gust (Atelier and Ar-Tonelico series) and Namco-Bandai (Tales of series), someone needs to tell both of them that they don't need to crank out a new game every year. Or at all, really, because most of them suck.

raynebc Nov 30, 2015

I haven't played any of the PS3 or newer Ar Tonelico games, but the first two (and especially the first) were pretty entertaining.

Dragonfish Dog Dec 1, 2015 (edited Dec 1, 2015)

raynebc wrote:

I haven't played any of the PS3 or newer Ar Tonelico games, but the first two (and especially the first) were pretty entertaining.

The first Ar-Tonelico was okay, Ar-Tonelico 2 was certainly the high point for the series.

The Atelier Iris trilogy, 2 was the best, although they really improved the crafting system in Atelier Iris 3 Grand Phantasm.

Having an evil empire (Riesevelt in Atelier Iris 2) to fight against is more interesting, than fighting some lone wandering swordsman (Mull in Atelier Iris).

Plus, the desert setting in the first half of the game (Atelier Iris 2) reminded me of the desert in the first third of the game in Lunar II. Props for drawing on my nostalgia for Game Arts games.

The 2 Mana-Khemia games, they didn't even go for a trilogy with; they did absolutely nothing interesting with the dungeons (most were either forest or castle motifs) - but again, they certainly improved on the crafting system even more from Grand Phantasm.

All said, I'm really tempted to check out Atelier Escha.

The Atelier Ayesha soundtrack, however, I liked exactly only one track, and scrapped the rest - so I have zero inclination to check out that game.

XLord007 Jan 4, 2016

I picked up Crypt of the Necrodancer in the Steam sale and had a blast playing through the first zone. It's a mix of rhythm/action and rougelike, and it's super addicting.

Dragonfish Dog Mar 15, 2016 (edited Mar 15, 2016)

XLord007 wrote:

I picked up Crypt of the Necrodancer in the Steam sale and had a blast playing through the first zone. It's a mix of rhythm/action and rougelike, and it's super addicting.

Not really interested in the game, but they made some pretty sweet t-shirts for it:
http://www.fangamer.com/search?q=Crypt+ … pe=product

Also, enjoying Ar no Surge a lot more than I thought I would; MOST of the time you'll spend in game is just dialogue (crafting and diving), but at least, for once, I'm actually enjoying the characters in a JRPG. I missed Gust more than I thought I did.

Dragonfish Dog Mar 28, 2016

Maybe it's just because I haven't played a game that I've actually liked in a long time, but Goddamn, did I enjoy Ar Nosurge (And I was dreading it, too, in the beginning).

Picked it up sometime around this past holiday season, casually plunked 2.5 hours into it, and then shelved it for whenever I actually felt like playing it, which, the urge to finally REALLY start the game and finish it occurred the beginning of this month (March).

For 2 weeks, all my free time was dedicated to Ar Nosurge, which is not something I've been able to do in a long time; usually, I get bored of a game multiple times midway through, and start playing a different game (or games) instead, but Ar Nosurge, somehow, I managed to stay fixated on until I finished it.

Finished it about 2 weeks ago, and over the course of 2 weeks, clocking in at 74 hours (73:54, to be precise); holy shit, right? When was the last time I spent that much time on a single game? Xenogears, maybe? I attribute the amount of time spent to just how much text dialogue there is in the game. For that matter, I did EVERYTHING there was to do in the game, because I wanted the special, secret true endings, which, I think were actually worth it. Don't shut the game off midway through the special endings, because they start to get different from the original endings halfway through!

Several caveats about the game:
-You'll probably only care about it if you're a fan of the classic Ar-Tonelico games, or Gust RPGs in general.
-I don't think the game was as good as the original 2 Ar-Tonelico games, but it's NOT total crap, either.
-The game starts out slow, and really, starts out by getting you accustomed to the synthesis and Souldiving aspects of the game.
-Most of your time will probably be spent with dialogue, with the Syntheses, and Souldiving.

The dungeons in the game are VERY short, and in many cases, once you enter a particular dungeon, the whole entire thing is laid out in front of you - that's to say that most of the dungeons are only ONE SCREEN.

Battle is quick and fast-paced; it's kind of a button-masher, with different attacks being assigned to different buttons (think Valkyrie Profile 2 as an example), well using items or casting Song Magic is done via menu.

For the most part, you'll defeat all of the enemies in a dungeon in a single battle, unless you run out of turns; you have 7 turns to defeat enemies until the battle ends, then you have to wait for another encounter to fight again.

Imagine, if say, Final Fantasy VII had a set amount of enemies in its dungeons, and random encounters would stop once you defeated all of them, until the next time you re-entered a dungeon. Then imagine, that once you defeated an entire enemy formation (battle), instead of battle ending, the game tossed wave after wave of enemies at you, until you either defeated all of them, or ran out of your turn count.

The encounter rate in the game is pretty high - you'll probably end up hitting an encounter as soon as you enter - but if you defeat all waves in a single encounter, you're free to roam the rest of the dungeon without being bothered. Really, it's best to defeat all waves in a single encounter, because that's how you score major spoils, is by getting those multipliers up there.

Defense is done with timed button presses; you'll really have to pay attention to enemy attack animations in order to determine when to guard.

Stats - If there's anywhere the game gets annoying, is with character stats, and how they define them, what stats represent, etc. For example, HP is instead called "Endurance." I had to look these things up in the in-game encyclopedia to figure these things out, because the game's in-game battle tutorial is rudimentary, so there's a fair amount of things you'll have to figure out for yourself; that said, I got through about the first 1/3 of the game before I HAD to resort to that. Once you know how stats work, and what to equip, boss battles are much relatively easier.

All that said, I actually really liked the characters and plot - which I actually paid attention to, or rather, actually kept my attention - and that's more I can say of any other RPG the entire PS3/X360 console generation.

P.S. The game's pretty easy when played on the lowest difficulty, but that still didn't discourage me from maxing out my levels; the last dungeons in the game? You can jump about 12 levels or so at once if you defeat all the enemies in one encounter, and the game's level cap is 99!

Sami Jul 1, 2016 (edited Jul 1, 2016)

Been replaying Zelda Minish Cap lately. What a great "little" (not so little) GBA game! Certainly belongs with the classics of the Zelda series, very captivating. It's an interesting fusion that combines three development directions of the Zelda series: the classic 2D games like Link to the Past, the 3D games (featuring plenty of references to those) and the handheld games, feeling like an advanced evolution of the Gameboy/GBC games. Playing Minish Cap makes me want to replay those too, even though they're more rudimentary.

Great music too.
Mt. Crenel
Palace of Winds (this sounds like it could be in a Fire Emblem game)
Boss music

Amazingu Jul 4, 2016

Yeah, I replayed Minish Cap a couple of years ago and was surprised at how well it holds up, to the point that I would also call it one of the best games in the series.

That's from way back when Capcom still made good games, donchaknow

Jay Jul 4, 2016

Yep, Minish Cap is a great Zelda game and it is easily one of the most beautiful. It could well be my favourite visually, actually. I picked up a few games in the Steam sale and have been playing them:

Everyone's Gone To The Rapture - I loved this. Gorgeous scenery, haunting soundtrack and the atmosphere is excellent. I enjoyed the stories but, due to the way things don't play out in order, I didn't always feel they got the impact they could have on some of them.

Alien Isolation - matches the feel of the movies perfectly. But I don't think I have the patience for this. Got to a point with androids chasing me and got really bored dying. Or waiting, then dying.

Life Is Strange - I totally adored this. Got sucked right in and it hit me in the gut in several places. Some dodgy lines and the recordings don't always match each other but what worked more than makes up for that. Finished it two nights ago and haven't stopped thinking about it.

Zane Jul 4, 2016

NES all day, every day. I've been working on my Megaman 2 run, hit a PB of 35:01 today. Still have a lot of work to do, but I'm feeling decent about that time. Also casually playing Batman and loosely running SMB2 (of which I have an embarrassing PB, most of my runs fall apart either in 6-1 or 6-3).

XLord007 Jul 4, 2016

I finally finished all of the main and sub missions in MGSV. Loved the game, but can't argue with the criticisms about its story.

After that, I whipped through Mighty No. 9. It was enjoyable, but forgettable. The absorption mechanic is a really cool idea, but the level design never rises up to take full advantage of it.

I'm now playing Adventures of Mana which is a super faithful remake of Final Fantasy Adventure. Unlike Sword of Mana which made wholesale changes to try to make the game more like Legend of Mana, Adventures keeps everything in tact from the original, and it's great. I bought a PSTV just for this game, and I don't regret it.

Ashley Winchester Jul 12, 2016

I haven't been playing it, but I'm already sick of Pokemon Go. It should be called Pokemon No.... Admittance!

I don't care if there's a Pokemon in the back room of the store I work at, you're NOT ALLOWED in the stockroom. Why do people even ask? Additionally, the one person tried to use their son's mental disability to try and get us to change our minds was despicable.

Nintendo kind of opened Pandora Box with this thing.

TerraEpon Jul 13, 2016 (edited Jul 13, 2016)

Someone mentioned in a twitch chat he had to shoo like five kids away from his back yard.

And yeah, I can't fathom how anyone thinks it's ok to pull a 'my kid has a disability so you're being mean' card to try and get around a head--to-wall obvious rule.

Amazingu Jul 13, 2016

I'm not a Pokemon fan by any stretch of the imagination, but I'm really curious to try this out.

Unfortunately it's still not out in Japan sad

Jay Jul 13, 2016

I would not have predicted how much of a PR win Pokemon Go would be for Nintendo. Has there been a game that has led to so many news stories? Okay so it may all go horribly wrong when we get the first Pokemon-related death but, until then, they're riding a wave I didn't see coming. It's not out yet here either but I'm curious to try it.

Zorbfish Jul 13, 2016

I'm actually kinda nervous to continue playing. My only social experience so far was at a gym in a nearby park by my apartment. I drove past while on lunch to take a chance at taking it from yellow team (blue ftw). There was a guy doing laps around it. Soon as I took the gym he comes over to where I was parked and starts f-bombing me to get off his turf.

Don't need that bs over a phone "game" so I left. He took it back as soon as I left. Only consolation is he lost it the next day to a Rattata somehow XD

Also the team aspect doesn't really work because owning gyms is tied to coins (which you have to pay for otherwise) so anyone who thinks they can knock you off will take it regardless of team you are member of. I've been knocked off by more blue (seems to dominate my city) than any other color.

*Goes back to playing Vita instead smile

Jodo Kast Jul 17, 2016

I started Aria of Sorrow and finished it in under 10 hours. I got the ending that allowed me to start a new game with equipment and most souls, as well as another new game playing as Julius. I started playing as Julius and chose the "hard" setting. It's as punishing as old NES games.

Ashley Winchester Jul 17, 2016

Jodo Kast wrote:

I started Aria of Sorrow and finished it in under 10 hours. I got the ending that allowed me to start a new game with equipment and most souls, as well as another new game playing as Julius. I started playing as Julius and chose the "hard" setting. It's as punishing as old NES games.

I really like Aria of Sorrow. It's probably my favorite after Symphony.

Zane Dec 14, 2016

After finishing my 20th RE4 save and hitting my PB (2:19:40), I tallied up all the in-game times on my saves and found that I've been playing this game for at least 172 hours, 6 minutes, and 27 seconds. Yowza.

avatar! Dec 14, 2016

Zane wrote:

After finishing my 20th RE4 save and hitting my PB (2:19:40), I tallied up all the in-game times on my saves and found that I've been playing this game for at least 172 hours, 6 minutes, and 27 seconds. Yowza.

Dang boy! Sounds like you've been enjoying said game...
Still, I keep hearing of people saying they've sunk from 300-1000 hours in Skyrim. That, is quite insane. I enjoyed Skyrim, but fail to see how people can play such games for such periods of time. Still, all that pales in comparison to World of Warcraft (and possibly other online games). Where the number of hours can add up to YEARS... yikes
http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/129 … layed-time

Anyway, all that said, I'm hoping to finish Witcher 3 at some point this holiday season. I've not yet sunk 70 hours into it, but I imagine once all is said and done it will easily be over 100 hours... it's a MASSIVE game!! Although once done, I typically don't touch the game anymore (although I will be listening to the soundtrack, I've loved all the Witcher soundtracks thus far smile

Amazingu Dec 14, 2016

If you're going to spend 172 hours on a game, RE4 is a mighty fine game to spend them on.

I've spent a little over 100 hours with Skyrim and The Witcher 3 each.
If I ever get round to the GOTY edition of TW3, I'm sure that number will be even higher.

Monster Hunter is another series I hear a lot of people spend literally thousands of hours on, and although I greatly enjoy the games and have put several hundreds of hours into them across all titles, I can't imagine spending so much time on an individual entry.

I think the game I've spent the most time with is Xenoblade, at what's probably 300 hours or so, and I could easily add another 100 at least. Can't get enough of that game.

Idolores Dec 15, 2016

Most hours I spent on any video game is (no joke) Tokyo Extreme Racer Drift 2 (much less cynically named Kaido Battle in Japan).

There's no in-game counter, but I've been playing consistently since it was released, mastering as much as I can. If I had to guess, I'd charitably say 3000 hrs, though its probably more. It's an incredible game.

avatar! Dec 15, 2016

Idolores wrote:

If I had to guess, I'd charitably say 3000 hrs, though its probably more. It's an incredible game.

Yowza! you know, that's over 4 months of your life...
not judging at all! Just saying (scientists are always converting from one unit to another, it's in our blood smile
ps 4 months you *could* be reviewing your physics big_smile

Idolores Dec 17, 2016 (edited Dec 17, 2016)

avatar! wrote:
Idolores wrote:

If I had to guess, I'd charitably say 3000 hrs, though its probably more. It's an incredible game.

Yowza! you know, that's over 4 months of your life...
not judging at all! Just saying (scientists are always converting from one unit to another, it's in our blood smile
ps 4 months you *could* be reviewing your physics big_smile

Honestly, I could have had at least a damn Bachelors with the time I've spent playing that one single game. Ugh.

It is really good, though. Mastering the physics of how a FWD handles in comparison to a RWD or an MR is mind blowing for a gearhead like me. Still having trouble with AWD though. I just can't get used to using e-brake exclusively for turns.

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