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Angela Sep 25, 2008

Idolores wrote:

Seeing John Goodman beat the hell out of a ninja is just about the greatest thing I've seen. Like, ever.

You mean a non-ja.

Idolores Sep 25, 2008 (edited Sep 27, 2008)

Angela wrote:
Idolores wrote:

Seeing John Goodman beat the hell out of a ninja is just about the greatest thing I've seen. Like, ever.

You mean a non-ja.

So should have seen that coming.

Edit: You happy now, Joe? tongue

Qui-Gon Joe Sep 26, 2008

Idolores wrote:

So should of seen that coming.

As the first thing I saw after coming home from a long week of teaching English, that just made my head pop.  tongue

Idolores Sep 27, 2008 (edited Sep 27, 2008)

Qui-Gon Joe wrote:
Idolores wrote:

So should of seen that coming.

As the first thing I saw after coming home from a long week of teaching English, that just made my head pop.  tongue

Edited, mang. I feel pretty silly about the mistake.

Wanderer Oct 30, 2008

Just watched this on Blu-Ray. I gotta say that I have mixed feelings.

Visually, awesome. This film was MEANT to be displayed on hi-def. Half of the pleasure I got from the movie was marveling at all the colors. Even the quieter scenes were often gorgeous. I'm thinking specifically of the Trixie/Speed moments in the car overlooking the city.

The races themselves were just awesome. Sometimes hard to follow, but there was always something to look at. Unfortunately, when there weren't races, there was a lot of lifeless dialogue, trying to move the plot along but mostly just falling flat. And with all due respect to some of the wonderful actors (especially John Goodman), none of these characters really escape being one-dimensional.

Giacchino's score did a credible job at holding the movie together, although it was often undermixed during stretches of dialogue. The film is wall-to-wall music but I only heard it roughly half of the time. The final fifteen minutes were beautifully scored, contributing a great deal of the emotion. Without the music, I suspect scenes of people wildly drinking milk would have fallen flat.

Angela Oct 30, 2008

Thanks for your write-up, Wanderer.  I still believe the characters illustrate more depth than folks give them credit for - we're not talking multi-layered, complex personalities here, but their core characteristics come through strongly enough, due in no small part to the excellent cast.

You're dead-on about the music, though.  From the start of Reboot to the end of Let Us Drink Milk, I'm high on emotions throughout the entire thing; the orchestral/grand choir infused finale of the Speed Racer theme is far and away the greatest cue I've heard this year.     

And, it's probably not exactly your thing, but what did you think of the Ali Dee remix cover during the end credits? :)

Angela Oct 30, 2008

McCall wrote:

Have you seen the original Mach Go Go Go? Or yet, the original Speed Racer? There wasn't a lot to work with in the latter (a classic American cut-n-dub), which I'm sure is more what the movie is based off. Gives you a little perspective, and in that regard, I think they brought them to life well enough, keeping true to it's anime/cutesy roots for the fanboys/girls, but also modernizing it just enough to work for new audiences (for some, obviously). They were remarkably true to the movie's roots in several aspects, more actually than I expected, as as a kid I watched Speed all the time, so I had different expectations that a lot of people. :D

In truth, I applaud just as many of the things they've retained from the show as the things they've changed up.   Changes like having Rex die instead of simply running away, putting Mom Racer in a more forefront and prominent role, and bumping up Sparky's age a bit.  If they took their cues straight from the show (and the performances straight from the dub), I think the whole thing might have turned out to be a disastrously hokey mess.
 
But it's the little nods and throwbacks that gets my approval.  Like appearances from Snake Oiler, the Grey Ghost, Inspector Detector, Cruncher Block's decked out Mammoth Car trailer truck, the GRX engine/car, and the fact they acknowledge the original "Mach Go Go" in the lyrics of the end credits.  But the coolest thing by far was the cameo appearance of Peter Fernandez as the old man announcer during the race at Thunderhead.  You just to need to hear him utter one sentence to be reminded of those crazy voices from the original show.  ^_^

Wanderer Oct 30, 2008 (edited Oct 30, 2008)

Angela wrote:

Thanks for your write-up, Wanderer.  I still believe the characters illustrate more depth than folks give them credit for - we're not talking multi-layered, complex personalities here, but their core characteristics come through strongly enough, due in no small part to the excellent cast.

Most of the main characters were okay. Aside from Spritle (who was bordering on Jar-Jar levels of irritating). Mom didn't really get much to do but the dynamics between Speed and Pops were relatively interesting. And I was actually disappointed when X chose not to reveal himself to the family. Not sure if they were trying to leave things open for a sequel or not.

I think if the film focused more on their dynamic and less on the politics of racing, I might have remained interested all the way through. But characters like Taejo, the inspector and even Royalton were really dull.

You're dead-on about the music, though.  From the start of Reboot to the end of Let Us Drink Milk, I'm high on emotions throughout the entire thing; the orchestral/grand choir infused finale of the Speed Racer theme is far and away the greatest cue I've heard this year.

Listening to the complete score, there's a lot of really subtle cues that I wished had been mixed louder into the movie. Even the five minute cue before "Casa Crista" is really quiet and lacks punch. But yeah, the louder, grand cues were definitely there and they added a lot to the movie.     

And, it's probably not exactly your thing, but what did you think of the Ali Dee remix cover during the end credits? smile

Definitely not my thing. tongue

Have you seen the original Mach Go Go Go? Or yet, the original Speed Racer? There wasn't a lot to work with in the latter (a classic American cut-n-dub), which I'm sure is more what the movie is based off. Gives you a little perspective, and in that regard, I think they brought them to life well enough, keeping true to it's anime/cutesy roots for the fanboys/girls, but also modernizing it just enough to work for new audiences (for some, obviously). They were remarkably true to the movie's roots in several aspects, more actually than I expected, as as a kid I watched Speed all the time, so I had different expectations that a lot of people. big_smile

Nope, neither. It's probably a case of misplaced expectations... but even so, I didn't go into it expecting much more than an animated cartoon come to life. wink

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