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avatar! Feb 5, 2017

Ashley Winchester wrote:
avatar! wrote:

So, what exactly happened? I take it you called the cops and the cops arrested her? Stolen material returned?

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but at least in my state (PA) I don't believe anyone at our store (even the Asset Protection Manager) has the authority to make a shoplifter go into the back room and wait for the cops to show up. The woman bolted after being confronted, but the stuff she had stuffed in duffel bags and backpacks didn't leave the store. The cops showed up after the fact, but I mean with all those cameras we probably have a clear shot of her face and they tallied up what she had stowed away - which was a shocking amount of things.

I think the way the law works is it becomes a felony if the amount exceeds $500. Reminds me of the time a kid stole one of the sample cellphones and the AP told him "you know you never would have gotten that phone to work anyway, so what you did was pretty damn stupid."

So, the police did not arrest her in the end? How is it the stuff in her backpacks (more than one?!) and duffel bags (?) did not leave? She really thought she could get away with this? Yup, humanity = failure tongue

Ashley Winchester Feb 6, 2017

avatar! wrote:

So, the police did not arrest her in the end? How is it the stuff in her backpacks (more than one?!) and duffel bags (?) did not leave? She really thought she could get away with this? Yup, humanity = failure tongue

I think I caught this at the halfway point, but by the time I saw the scene she had the stuff in the bags and the AP associate and two other high ranking members of management were confronting her. She was on the phone, I assume talking to her significant other, pronouncing her innocence and I guess getting "council" because she refused to go into the back room. She threatened to call corporate (heh heh) and I'm assuming she left afterwards without the stuff because when the cops came later she was nowhere in sight.

I know we didn't lose the stuff however, I saw one of the managers tallying it up what was in the bags at later point that night. I had heard rumors it was around the $900~$1,000 area.

But as jb said, we have video evidence. What he said was true, you don't want to force them to stay there and have something like an injury occur in a scuffle. Didn't Wal Mart get sued last year when some employees tried to stop someone from stealing a TV? I believe they tackled the thief and he ended up dying from a heart attack.

longhairmike Feb 6, 2017

avatar! wrote:

So, what exactly happened? I take it you called the cops and the cops arrested her? Stolen materia returned?

damn yuffie!

Ashley Winchester Feb 6, 2017

longhairmike wrote:
avatar! wrote:

So, what exactly happened? I take it you called the cops and the cops arrested her? Stolen materia returned?

damn yuffie!

Okay, I totally didn't catch that last part until Mike's post. Hahaha.

On a side note, are you aware that Yuffie can only steal so much materia from you? If you have more than she can steal you actually can have materia during that part of the game.

avatar! Feb 8, 2017 (edited Feb 8, 2017)

http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/Bo … 13603.html

"Boy Severely Beaten at Suburban Middle School by Another Student"

"A 12-year-old boy [Henry] was in a coma over the weekend after being severely beaten by another student...“Not only do we support Henry, but we also support the student who allegedly caused this—we support him through counseling,” Tony Sanders said."

So that's how it is today. Somebody beats the crap out of someone else, and the response is "that poor attacker, he's got problems, let's support him"... screw that shit! What I've come to realize after spending lots of time with young people is that when they're young assholes, they grow up to be larger assholes. Pretty much how you are as a young kid is how you'll be as an adult. If you're kind and caring you will most likely always be so, while if you're an ass, you will remain so. Yes, there are exceptions. And you know what, if the kid was "off his medications" or "on his medications" I don't give a damn. Dangerous people should be locked up.

Ashley Winchester Feb 9, 2017

avatar! wrote:

What I've come to realize after spending lots of time with young people is that when they're young assholes, they grow up to be larger assholes.

I know people would like to think the opposite, but yeah, people generally don't change.

However, I don't know, I share a laugh every once and while with this guy that used to bully me when I was in jr. high/high school. I look back at some of that stuff and just think it's funny now. I'm not trying to minimize the effects of bullying (or not say that those were mean things to do that did affect me at the time) but I don't know, I'm really comparing apples and oranges. I mean I was never beaten into a coma by a psychopath.

What I will say, from personal experience, is while a school may be interested in getting someone "counseling," once they've handed the baton off they generally don't want to be bothered with the issue beyond that point. I'm not saying the school should be completely responsible for helping students after that point, but if a student is in need (and is non-violent) you really need ALL the pillars in a young person's life to be on the same page, and considering how much young people spend in school you can see why having the school be involved is important.

raynebc Feb 9, 2017

The attacker needs to be banned from public schools.  Too much of a threat to everybody's safety.  If he continues this violence into adulthood, he should be kept in a cage (jail) like the other animals.

longhairmike Feb 9, 2017 (edited Feb 10, 2017)

158 days later,, i am now officially divorced,, i just don't know what to feel sometimes, and other times i wish i didn't feel anything. i've cried more in 5 months than i did over 42 years...

Amazingu Feb 10, 2017

Really sorry to hear that, Mike sad

I can't even begin to understand how it must feel.
Hang in there!

avatar! Feb 10, 2017

Sorry to hear it Mike. Don't know if it makes you feel better, but divorce rates are 40-50% in the USA. Sometimes people divorce for good reasons, other times, not so good.

Well, at any rate, here is something I ponder about:
"Teen receives extremely blunt job rejection, fights back on Twitter"
https://www.yahoo.com/news/teen-receive … 07790.html

Basically, if you think you're a "good" looking teen, and you don't get your way, yup go on twitter and "fight back"!!!  God forbid, I mean totally forbid, you would actually write back, or call, or just say "eh, I'll move on". NO! You have to go on twitter and how them "how dare you not hire me! Can't you see I need this job until Hollywood finds me! I'm so much better than you, you suck..."

Yup, that's the impression I got! Entitlement coming out of both ends...

Amazingu Feb 10, 2017

Um, did we read the same article?

I see someone getting an extremely unprofessional and rude notice of rejection, who then shared it on Twitter to call them out on it.
Nowhere is she saying she deserves to be hired or anything.

Overreact much?

avatar! Feb 12, 2017 (edited Feb 12, 2017)

Amazingu wrote:

Um, did we read the same article?

I see someone getting an extremely unprofessional and rude notice of rejection, who then shared it on Twitter to call them out on it.
Nowhere is she saying she deserves to be hired or anything.

I think we missed the point. The point being, every time you get a rude/unprofessional rejection, or rude/unprofessional service, you immediately go on twitter? Everything has to be social media these days? And yeah, I realize I didn't exactly convey that in my previous message, but there you go smile

Amazingu wrote:

Overreact much?

She sure did. If I were in her position I would just have called the manager/restaurant and said this was unprofessional. I wouldn't immediately go on social media. I think she has shown just as much, perhaps more, disrespect than she got.

Lastly, and more importantly, why the hell this is news I don't know. BUT, I do know because shit like this gets called "news" and it gets "news reports/views/etc" is why people post shit like this on social media nonstop. You get a nice one-sided "news" piece immediately damaging the other party. Grrrr....

Ashley Winchester Mar 6, 2017

I got one that happened to me tonight. I was rather pissed the whole time I was dealing with it, but I can laugh at the stupidity now.

I get a call to go to the fish tanks. I go to the fish tanks. I spend the next twenty minutes talking to some dude's significant other over speaker phone over why her fish died (I wanted to tell her it was probably something she did that angered God) and which ones she wanted. It was just so damn hard to make out anything she was saying.

Seriously, don't do this to workers at a store. Yes, I'm there to help you, but I shouldn't have to be put on point to that degree - it's just ludicrous not to mention insanely lazy.

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