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Angela Jun 2, 2009 (edited Jun 2, 2009)

Nintendo officially announces New Super Mario Bros. Wii, which boasts "classic 2D gameplay of the original Super Mario Bros. with four-player co-operative play to create a new Mario experience." 

E3 2009 Gameplay Demo:
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-09-new-super/50245

I'm getting a sort of LittleBigPlanet vibe from the four-player description -- but with the potential for tighter platforming gameplay.  Let's hope multiplayer extends to online.  Let's also hope the game will feature the meat and potatoes of a true 2D Mario platformer: a robust, single-player adventure.

shdwrlm3 Jun 2, 2009

It has the glorious return of the Koopa Kids, therefore it will win. The new suits look great, too. I can't believe it's taken this long for Mario to have ice powers.

Why no Peach in 4P mode, though? It would've been great to have the entire SMB2 gang playable again.

James O Jun 3, 2009

I would guess that Peach is kidnapped yet again, hence why she's not in the playable characters.  She really should get herself some decent security heh.  I'll probably pick this up as I liked NSMB for DS too.

allyourbaseare Jun 3, 2009

Looks great!  Just the idea of Mario and Luigi working together on the same screen at the same time feels rewarding.  Like they're actually working as a brotherly team instead of individually.

FuryofFrog Jun 3, 2009

Its cool and all but I dont get the whole thing about making a "New" version of Mario Bros 1. I mean if they were going to use anything as the basis SMB3 or SMW or just something original. Yay we can finally use Luigi but y'know whats annoying? Yellow guy and blue guy. Those rightfully must be Wario and Waluigi respectively. I don't care for the art style and I hope this plays much better than NSMB for the DS. It had a sloppy, slippery banana feel to it. Not the tight platforming I've come to expect.




Maybe they have forgotten how to make a Mario game after all......

Carl Jun 3, 2009

Surely Mario's 3D-games don't have "tight platforming" controls either...

Having to adjust camera angles all the time is far more annoying to me than any slippery banana-peel 2D controls.

Angela Jun 3, 2009

FuryofFrog wrote:

I don't care for the art style and I hope this plays much better than NSMB for the DS. It had a sloppy, slippery banana feel to it. Not the tight platforming I've come to expect.

It's a funny thing.  After spending so much time with DS NSMB, I've found it tough to near impossible to re-acclimate myself back to SMB3/SMW controls.  I guess I'd gotten so used to the weighter feel of the former, that the latter(s) are now much too loose for my liking.

Adam Corn Jun 3, 2009

I hope they include a few throwbacks to Super Mario Bros. 2 (U.S.).  Granted it's not a "real" Mario game, but with multiple characters being playable akin to that game it would be a neat thing to do.

I wasn't overly impressed with New Super Mario Bros. for DS either but hopefully there'll be some improvements this time around, and multiplayer looks like good fun in any case.

Princess-Isabela Jun 3, 2009

the only problem I had with super mario bros ds, was the lack of difficulty, it was just so easy.
looks great though, shame Nintendo hasn't announced DS player for Wii or something like that, was kind of hoping for that.

FuryofFrog Jun 3, 2009

Carl wrote:

Surely Mario's 3D-games don't have "tight platforming" controls either...

Having to adjust camera angles all the time is far more annoying to me than any slippery banana-peel 2D controls.

Yeah 2D Mario will always be more appealing to me than 3D Mario. The problem is not 2D controls, the problem is NSMB controls. They feel awkward to me in ways I can't fully describe. I feel like Im on the ice level in SMB3 constantly when I play NSMB. Its a good game but not what I am expecting.

Angela wrote:
FuryofFrog wrote:

I don't care for the art style and I hope this plays much better than NSMB for the DS. It had a sloppy, slippery banana feel to it. Not the tight platforming I've come to expect.

It's a funny thing.  After spending so much time with DS NSMB, I've found it tough to near impossible to re-acclimate myself back to SMB3/SMW controls.  I guess I'd gotten so used to the weighter feel of the former, that the latter(s) are now much too loose for my liking.

Really?? Wow, You must have had some intense play sessions of that game to not be used to the old ones anymore. I just can't get into it when I play. I slip off things that I would never have before and make silly mistakes that would never had happened to me before. I like new games but this feeling kills me. The fact that its also based off of the look and feel of 1 is kind of a mistake in my opinion.

Out of everything I do have to admit the Propeller and Penguin suit are cool.
I suppose in the end what I want is an upgrade to Mario similar to KoF XII and not just a jump to 3D that really loses a lot of the charm the first 4 games had.

Princess-Isabela wrote:

the only problem I had with super mario bros ds, was the lack of difficulty, it was just so easy.
looks great though, shame Nintendo hasn't announced DS player for Wii or something like that, was kind of hoping for that.

I wouldn't expect them to make this one any harder either. Nintendo this year has made it perfectly clear that they would like to make the game all accessible which ultimately means the difficulty is once more taking a hit.

XLord007 Jun 3, 2009

Princess-Isabela wrote:

the only problem I had with super mario bros ds, was the lack of difficulty, it was just so easy.

I agree that NSMB DS was too easy, but I think the reason for that wasn't so much in the gameplay as it was that they gave you way too many extra lives.  I died plenty of times, but I pretty much always had 50 or more extra lives, so it didn't matter.

Nekobo Jun 7, 2009

This was one of the few games I kept coming back to at E3. It's a great co-op and competitive experience all at once. It's handles almost exactly like New Super Mario Bros. The neat part about playing it was I ran into Charles Martinet, the voice of Mario himself. He seemed really enthused watching people play, so that made things even more fun.

Ashley Winchester Jun 7, 2009

XLord007 wrote:
Angela wrote:
Angela wrote:

Let's hope multiplayer extends to online.

Well, that's out:

http://kotaku.com/5278060/no-online-pla … mario-bros

I think this is BS.  High Voltage is promising 4-player online co-op in its upcoming Wii FPS The Grinder.  I'm betting that is using a good deal more processing power than New SMB.

I have to agree. I know that the Wii isn't a graphics powerhouse and was never meant to be - but if it's true that it uses up all the Wii's processing power, well, that's just sad.

Arcubalis Jun 7, 2009

This is definitely a ton of fun.  Got the chance to play four players, and it's like Four Swords meets Mario Bros.  It's cooperative and competitive at the same time.  Very neat level designs.

Regarding the music, couldn't hear anything from the TV, but they were pumping this really catchy samba track in the speakers above the area where the NSMBW kiosks were.  It's been stuck in my head for days.

Also, Koopa Kids rock.  If only they had been in Galaxy.

XLord007 Jun 7, 2009

Arcubalis wrote:

Also, Koopa Kids rock.  If only they had been in Galaxy.

At least this shows that Nintendo was listening to the criticism about the overuse of Bowser Jr.  Here's hoping the Koopa Kids will get to make their 3D debut in Galaxy 2.

Adam Corn Oct 5, 2009

That game sounds like so much fun I almost laughed out loud in delight reading that report in the office.  Lack of online play is pretty ridiculous but there will certainly be an added dynamic playing it with a group of friends all in the same room.  Can't wait!

Wanderer Oct 5, 2009

I'm hoping the game is actually a challenge. The last few Mario 2D sidescrollers have been massive bores because Nintendo just throws unlimited 1-Ups at you.

absuplendous Oct 5, 2009

I was hoping this update would also reveal that the blue and yellow toads were just placeholders and now actual characters were players 3 and 4. At least give us the Toad with a capital T. Still, it's reassuring to know the single player experience will deliver.

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