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avatar! May 27, 2006

http://www.ebgames.com/product.asp?product%5Fid=210773

I seriously wonder about the people in charge of producing such games!  Also, here's something cute & ironic:

* Created by Appaloosa Interactive, developer of the Award-Winning Ecco the Dolphin series.

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GoldfishX May 27, 2006

Worst thing is, playing as Jaws sounds promising (as opposed to playing people trying to kill Jaws). Not many shark sims on the market.

Although I never did get what was so great about the Ecco series, outside of the graphics...I gave up on the DC one.

Jay May 27, 2006

They've been developing a shark game for many years, since Ecco:DotF came out. I would imagine that the Jaws license is an afterthought (it's certainly the first I've heard of it) and, as much as that might sound like a bad thing, I think that there could be a well-developed game in here.

XLord007 May 27, 2006

avatar! wrote:

* Created by Appaloosa Interactive, developer of the Award-Winning Ecco the Dolphin series.

Also the creator of the two asstacular 32-bit Contra games.

avatar! May 27, 2006

One annoying thing is, that everyone who plays this game will be so certain that sharks are these man-eating, evil, terrible creatures.  In reality, they're not only very important to the ecosystem, they almost never attack humans.  You have a much better chance of getting hit by lightening than attacked by a shark. 

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avatar! May 27, 2006

Hmmm, I think in order to play this game you have to be either

a)drunk at a party
b)a retard
c)an idiot
d)a combination of the above

Sorry, I don't see what's so fun about swimming around and munching on people and other animals is?  I guess people just like all the blood and gore (see (b) and (c) above).

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GoldfishX May 27, 2006

avatar! wrote:

Hmmm, I think in order to play this game you have to be either

a)drunk at a party
b)a retard
c)an idiot
d)a combination of the above

Sorry, I don't see what's so fun about swimming around and munching on people and other animals is?  I guess people just like all the blood and gore (see (b) and (c) above).

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This applies to a lot of games on the market unfortunately. Even sadder is this one sounds more interesting than most of them.

Zaggart May 27, 2006

avatar! wrote:

http://www.ebgames.com/product.asp?product%5Fid=210773

I seriously wonder about the people in charge of producing such games!  Also, here's something cute & ironic:

* Created by Appaloosa Interactive, developer of the Award-Winning Ecco the Dolphin series.

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*Drunken person stumbles in developer's studio* "I got an idea!... Lets make a game where you can be a shark and eat things and....... you can dunk it in the toilet."

Dais May 27, 2006

avatar! wrote:

One annoying thing is, that everyone who plays this game will be so certain that sharks are these man-eating, evil, terrible creatures.  In reality, they're not only very important to the ecosystem, they almost never attack humans.  You have a much better chance of getting hit by lightening than attacked by a shark. 

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and yet I would probably rather be struck by lightning then eaten alive by a shark

Schala May 27, 2006

avatar! wrote:

Sorry, I don't see what's so fun about swimming around and munching on people and other animals is?

Meh, I don't see why it's such a stretch of imagination. It's basically like any other fighting or shooter game out there, except this time you're controlling an animal rather than a human. Plus apparently you need to use a little bit of strategy.

Wow...."Dismemberment engine provides 25+ points of disconnection allowing for game characters and objects to be torn apart piece by piece."

Adam Corn May 27, 2006

GoldfishX wrote:

Although I never did get what was so great about the Ecco series, outside of the graphics

The music!  In the "Songs of Time" album at least.

Jay May 28, 2006 (edited May 28, 2006)

I'm not quite sure where this hate is coming from. The Ecco games are gaming excellence. You're very quick to judge a game you haven't even seen working, avatar, never mind actually played. You're going on one cover and a few screenshots.

The fact that you double posted to comment that "that everyone who plays this game will be so certain that sharks are these man-eating, evil, terrible creatures" and then to say that you have to be drunk or a retard to play it says to me that you're taking something personally here. What's up? Did Appaloosa kill your father or something? Have you some insider knowledge on this game that the rest of us don't?


Edit: And actually, now that I have gone looking for online impressions, it sounds pretty good. A nasty review from Gamespot and some decent reviews otherwise. Could be worth checking out. But then I guess that I must be a 'retard' or 'drunk' for not damning the game on its cover alone, eh?

avatar! May 28, 2006

Jay wrote:

The fact that you double posted to comment that "that everyone who plays this game will be so certain that sharks are these man-eating, evil, terrible creatures" and then to say that you have to be drunk or a retard to play it says to me that you're taking something personally here. What's up? Did Appaloosa kill your father or something? Have you some insider knowledge on this game that the rest of us don't?

You have a point.  Different people enjoy different things, nevertheless I don't see how swimming around and dismembering people and other animals is a rewarding gaming experience.  Unless, as I mentioned you're drunk, or are a mental maladroit...

still, you're right.  I meant no offense to anyone.  I'm just going to add that if you really enjoy this game, there's a possible future for you with the IRS or Rockstar Games or maybe... a dentist?  smile 

cheers,

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ps Yeah, after studying sharks I think that soceity gives them a poor and undeserved reputation.  Sure, you might realize this is just a game based off a movie, but keep in mind that most people think great whites are just like in the movie Jaws.

Jay May 28, 2006

Ah right, so you're one of the people who believe we all form our opinions from games. You and Jack Thompson then. Nice how you both understand how 'most people' think.

In all seriousness, would I be right in thinking that you saw that this game exists, over-reacted and posted this thread in the midst of that reaction without any real knowledge involved? It's okay - we all do it every now and again. I suppose it would be tough for you to back away from that so I'll try not to take offense at your repeated insults (of course the 'no offense' added after a second bout of those same insults was admittedly a nice touch and the smiley capped the third lot off brilliantly).

avatar! May 28, 2006

Jay wrote:

In all seriousness, would I be right in thinking that you saw that this game exists, over-reacted and posted this thread in the midst of that reaction without any real knowledge involved?

Over-reacted, most likely. 
I'll agree with "not having played", but I certainly had some "real" knowledge (hey, we all read reviews and watch images of games before they come out and form an opinion).  If others enjoy the game, that's fine!  We're all entitled to our opinion, but my opinion of thise game is very low (even though it got some decent reviews)... and I ask you, do you think this game would be popular if it didn't have all the blood and gore?  I think originally there may have been a cool idea behind the shark game, but eventually it ended up as "OK, lets add lots of blood and body parts, because that's what sharks do...or what people want to see anyway!  Hey, wasn't there a movie with some big shark?  Maybe we could fit that in..." Which comes back to my original question: Who comes up with these things?

cheers,

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Jay May 28, 2006 (edited May 28, 2006)

I think your analysis in how the game reached it's current point is probably quite accurate. Although, seeing as you say you have studied sharks, there is probably no need to point out that sharks are predators, is there? Even if there wasn't a human being in sight, there was likely to be a lot of killing in this game. I'm sure you have played games with killing before.

I didn't know you had read reviews before your first post - that was certainly not the impression I got.

And who comes up with these things? Well first a game developer and then, most likely, the publisher brought on the license. Simple as that. Would it be popular without blood and gore? You want me to list popular games without blood and gore now? Are you new to gaming, avatar?

Oh and I'm getting a mixed message here -
You say we are all entitled to our opinions.
You say anyone whose opinion differs from yours must be drunk or retarded.

Which is it?

avatar! May 28, 2006

Jay wrote:

Oh and I'm getting a mixed message here -
You say we are all entitled to our opinions.
You say anyone whose opinion differs from yours must be drunk or retarded.
Which is it?

Definitely, everyone is entitled to his or her opinion!
I was being a bit colorful when I said you have to be either a drunk or retard to enjoy the game.  You shouldn't take that line too seriously, although I do agree with GoldfishX who pointed out that many games are made with the lowest common denominator in mind.  As for sharks being predators, indeed they are.  However, here is something you might not have known (this is from Wikipedia, which is not always correct, but for the most part they are):

The fear of sharks has been fueled by a few rare instances of unprovoked attack, such as the Jersey Shore Shark Attacks of 1916, and by sensationalized fiction and film, such as the Jaws series. The creator of the Jaws phenomenon, the late Peter Benchley, has himself in recent years attempted to dispel the myth of sharks being man-eating monsters. In 2005 there were worldwide a total of 58 unprovoked attacks of which 4 were fatal [2]. In comparison, several hundred people die annually from lightning strikes and 1.3 million people die from diseases transmitted via mosquito bites.
Contrary to popular belief, only a few sharks are dangerous to humans. Out of more than 360 species, only 4 have been confirmed to have killed appreciable numbers of humans in unprovoked attacks: the Great White, Tiger, Bull, and Oceanic Whitetip sharks. These sharks, being large, powerful predators perfectly capable of eating humans, may sometimes attack and kill people, but all of the above sharks, even the Great White, have been filmed in open water, with no cage [3], time and time again, without incident.

So what's my point?  Maybe I have a spot soft for sharks, since many species are in danger due to human attacks.  In fact, it's a well known fact that the movie "Jaws" directly caused the killing of  a great many harmless sharks!  See

http://www.elasmo-research.org/conserva … idered.htm

Peter Benchley is noted to have said: "Today I could not, for instance, portray the shark as a villain, especially not as a mindless omnivore that attacks boats and humans with reckless abandon No, the shark in an updated Jaws could not be the villain; it would have to be written as the victim, for, world-wide, sharks are much more the oppressed than the oppressors.

"Every year, more than a hundred million sharks are slaughtered by man. It has been estimated that for every human life taken by a shark, 4.5 million sharks are killed by humans. And rarely for a useful purpose."

OK, that's that smile  Yes, it's just a video game, but I suppose Jaws was "just" a movie.  No hard feeling I hope!  If you enjoy the game, I have no problem with that, nor do I consider you a drunk or fool.  Thanks for the opportunity to portray some shark facts, I hope people learn something smile

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