Actually, I was looking at it the same way as a war of numbers. Not saying the WiiU games would be bad... but I think you have to admit the WiiU's output is going to be anemic (number-wise) for the foreseeable future. This is not saying more games means Sony "wins" but with more software available there is simply more of a chance for the player to find and enjoy many more titles.

It may be anemic, but to be honest, I'm enjoying the single-minded hype that Mario Kart is receiving at the moment. It's just weird, it's almost like a special event happening among a lot of people I know. And I have to say, the game looks good and it has the freaking KOOPALINGS in it!

If that was your point, it wasn't well articulated. You presented one list, derided it for its makeup, then presented another list and hailed it, pretending that list didn't have the same makeup--different titles, different totals, yes, but same general trend.

By the same token, you can play a number of games of varying budgets on the Wii U but not the others, too. If you think the PS4 lineup is ultimately more impressive or enticing, that's fine, but you can't deride one lineup for the same reasons you praise the other.

Can I ask a serious question? I'm going to sound like an ass here, but do you always have to pick apart everything anyone says in every Nintendo related thread that is even slightly negative? You may not have understood avatar's point but I got it crystal clear. I'm sorry but it's pretty much a given that the wall of WiiU games at my local retailer is never going to grow beyond a measly four foot section and that is a damn shame. I'm sorry but if I buy a console I'd rather have a steady stream of new games coming out rather than one here and one there and the only notable ones being first party.

And before you say you don't only focus only the Nintendo based threads have you even posted in the XBox one thread? (Answer: no) As much as you annoy me I'll admit it would be a breath of fresh air if you'd actually post in a thread like that and it would significantly improve my opinion on your opinions and make them seem much less one sided.

No, I don't have to pick apart everything--and in fact, I haven't. There have been many posts (Nintendo-related and otherwise) where I've been tempted to respond, but ultimately decided "don't waste your breath." I will, however, "pick apart," or rather point out, a glaring double-standard such as this one.

As for why I don't post in the X-Bone thread, get this: I don't own one and don't plan to. So why would I go there? I don't see any value in frequenting a thread about something irrelevant to me; I certainly don't see the value in finding a way to sneer at any news item concerning it, or counting game libraries. I "focus" on Nintendo threads here simply because I'm interested in Nintendo. I don't frequent PS4 or X-Bone threads because I'm not interested in them, and don't feel a need to attack or mock them.

For what it's worth to you, in my circles I do my fair share of deflating the puffery that Nintendo zealots engage in, too (obviously, not here). You know how you get nauseated every time someone squeals about FPS rates or screen resolutions? That's how I feel about people throwing around sales figures to prove their party--I mean, console of choice--is "better." That's how I feel about taking any opportunity possible to make a dig, just 'cause. (Must be why I grew tired of the late-show circuit.)

Your reasons for not wanting to adopt a Wii U are  perfectly valid and reasonable to me, and no one--including me--is arguing that you should get one. I feel my reasons for not adopting a PS4 or X-Bone are valid, too. The difference between us is I don't post in threads about them to say "nice game... but it's still not enough," or "decent sales bump... but they're still doomed." I don't know if posters like these fancy themselves industry pundits or just enjoy gnashing their teeth.

I want to carry you on my shoulders like that champion you are!

OK guys, certain people are probably jumping too greedily on the chance to berate Nintendo (likely myself included) and certain ones have probably taken issue excessively with what was an ambiguous comment at worst.  Let's not let it get out of hand please.

http://kotaku.com/wii-u-review-update-2 … 1601718713

I think this article makes a pretty good case for making a Wii U purchase at the moment. Especially for me, as it seems 2D/2.5D games seem to be thriving on the console.

I just got mine back from my friend for Shovel Knight and Target's buy 2 get one free sale in late June (plus you get a free game for registering Mario Kart 8). Sadly, they were out of Donkey Kong the last day of the sale, but I got MK8, Rayman Legends (I needed this one after seeing the 3 way SGDQ race) and the Wiimotion Plus/Mario and Sonic at the Winter Games pack (no really, I just needed the Wiimote Plus and nothing else really caught my attention). So now I'm about to pick up Shovel Knight, the two NES Remixes and register for a free New Super Mario Bros Wii U. That's a pretty solid core overall right there.

To the Wii U's credit (at least in my case) I have to admit that out of all three consoles the WiiU probably does have the most games I'm interested in out of the big three. I'm not really interested enough to make a purchase however.

Additionally, I wasn't terribly interested in anything Sony or Microsoft showed at E3. The only non-Wii games I've seen I'm interested in are FF15 and KH3 but those are a long ways off.

That's kind of the other thing...There's nothing else on the other consoles I want (Little Big Planet is too slow for me). I had that issue last generation, where basically it was just fighters that interested me for the last couple years (although I'm still in a dilemma for Guilty Gear Xrd, as it won't be out on the 360 and I don't own a PS3 or PS4). I think a lot of people are seeing that the Xbone, PS4 and PC aren't so different from each other, then a game like Mario Kart 8 comes out and there's really no other game on current consoles like it (although you could say that about the Wii last generation, but I actually mean in terms of game quality/style). That makes a good case for owning the Wii U, as long as they beef up that library.

http://www.cinemablend.com/games/PS4-Co … 65128.html

Heh, interesting.

I would say you're in the large minority. Don't get me wrong the Wii U has some nice games, but nothing that's going to get me to purchase a console. On the other hand, the PS4/One has a slew of upcoming games I want. Still, I like the fact that the Wii U is getting Bayonetta 2. If Nintendo can get some great exclusives that are not Super Mario or similar in nature, that would be excellent.

Maybe, but I'm hearing this more and more from gamers in my group (and a lot of them generally aren't the hugest Nintendo fans), some of whom bought either the PS4 or Xbone and are lamenting there's nothing to play. There's no question the PS4 and Xbone will have more games overall especially in the US, but frankly a lot of them look the same (that gritty, pseudo-realistic look) and I can't find many worth getting excited over, especially in an age where a lot of the big titles seem to be FPS games. Watching Mario Kart 8 in action, on the other, just tickles the imagination in ways older games did.

Have to agree with this

http://www.technobuffalo.com/2015/04/23 … haracters/

by the way... wasn't quite sure where to post this. Didn't feel like starting a new thread.

There are strong rumors floating around about Ryu (from Street Fighter) and Roy.

I'm a sucker, I don't mind paying for DLC for an excellent game but I do get annoyed at day/week 1 DLC.

Didn't the Xbox halo collection have a 20-gig download on day one? and that wasn't a DLC I believe. That's ridiculous that anything like that needs to occur.

What happened with the Master Chief Collection was inexcusable. They knew it was a broken piece if (expletive) and they still released it because they wanted those holiday sales to be reflected for their investors.

343's butt is on the line with Halo 5. If they screw that up....

Sounds like a spectacular failure.  Glad I don't care about Halo.

I don't care about Halo either... but the situation with MCC was crap and they need to be called out on it.

Not that they haven't already.

"The Wii U has been one of the worst purchases of my life"

http://www.businessinsider.com/nintendo … ife-2016-4

"The Wii U's problem was never the games, but the console itself..."

interesting...

I must've played and finished 60 games EACH on both the NES and SNES.

I played and finished ALMOST 40 games on the N64 (about 36-39, to be precise).

I skipped on the GameCube.

I might've played about 20 games on the Wii, and at least 4 of those, I didn't even bother to finish.

I remember reading about the Wii U before it even came out, and a number of gaming sources said it'd be dead on arrival, with not much of a library coming out for it.

I've seen top 20 and top 10 lists for the Wii U, and I can honestly say I couldn't care less about any of the games on those lists. And those're supposed to be lists of the BEST games on the system.