So says VG Chartz:

http://kotaku.com/gaming/retailed/wii-p … 292442.php

A site that makes news out of nothing reports on a site that is constantly accused of making things up. Very meta!

Well, I'm certain those Japanese 360 sell numbers are close to right; buy the damned system, Japanese people!  Gah!

Are you on neogaf?

Give them one good reason why they should.
One good reason for a JAPANESE, that is.

Eternal Sonata, at least going by the demo of it.  = P

It has many of the same, and yet plenty of other games, that the PS3 has, without the system being overpriced.  I have yet to buy a retail PS3 game.  I have several, and played many more, 360 games not available on the PS3.

I'd say the 360 is a vacuum for very "western" action and shooter games that I'd assume don't exactly cater to a Japanese audience. Nevermind how the system didn't originate there and doesn't have any real flagship titles that would make people excited. I heard somewhere that Blue Dragon is the best selling game on the 360 in Japan, which makes total sense... but I doubt that there's a big audience over there for titles like Condemned, or Call of Duty 4, or (insert generic action game with too much blooming here), or, or...

The PS3 lacks flagship titles.  Not buying the 360 just because of where it originates seems bigoted.  And it isn't as if they don't like action games there:  Gears of War broke the top 10 when it was released.  http://www.gamespot.com/news/6164717.html

The PS3 lacks more than just flagship titles.

There was absolutely no bigotry in my post. I was making a comment about how most Xbox 360 games are developed by western studios and that the audience in Japan is smaller for those types of titles than the audience here in the US is. You could say the same for titles like .hack// or Persona 3 that have a presumably larger user base in Japan on the PS2 (a system that originated in Japan) than they do here. No bigotry there, either.

This thread reeks of 360 fanboy-ism.  I'd buy one if not for that damned "Red Ring of Death."  If I buy a console, then it'd better work properly.

What the hell happened in this thread?

But those two examples are JRPGs, which aren't really available on the PS3 either, so that doesn't explain its sales.  I wasn't stating that you are bigoted, but that IF the Japanese don't buy the 360 because it originates from North America, THEN that's bigoted.

I don't see how it is reeking of 360 fanboy-ism.  I, unlike most of you, own a 360, Wii, and a PS3 and can freely judge them by actual experience and investment.  Luckily, I haven't had an issue with the RRoD.  If you were so worried about defective consoles, I guess that means you never owned a PSX or PS2.  At least MS offers a 3 year warranty.

Person expressed an opinion; others challenged it.  It's almost as if this is a forum in which discussions are held, and that this thread is discussing system sales for who, apparently, should or will be number 2 in this race.

Gaming Discussion, serious business.  No bigots allowed guyz.

Huh, that makes no sense... it's like you just wanted to say something just to be an ass.  I'm not surprised.

Derailed.

Its because I, unlike you, do not own a 360, Wii, and a PS3 and cannot freely judge them by actual experience and investment.

So people can say Family Guy should be cancelled and taken off the air or bashing of Sakimoto or any random, typically cynical or pessimistic expression of opinion---there is general acceptance and actual agreement.  Someone wants the Japanese to buy up 360s, in a thread regarding system sales, while pointing out a conditional that not buying something due to where it originates is bigoted, and its just accusations of fanboyism and the thread is considered derailed.

I am going to stop posting in this thread and so I can go play Wii Sports instead.

Indeed.  And 360 has done so poorly in Japan (and Xbox before it as well) that the bigotry notion has occured to me as well.  Americans have been eating up their stuff since the NES but perhaps for fear of American dominance, they won't support 360, which at this point seems to be favored by many gamers. (The last part isn't a biased statement; it's merely something I've observed - many people seem to view 360 as the best choice out of the three consoles right now)

I think the acceptance and agreement part often comes automatically by virtue of the familiarity that some folks have with each other around here.  I have no problem calling a friend on something they do that I disagree with, but many people in all walks of life tend to back others up based more on who they are than on what they're saying.  It isn't fair, but thems the breaks.  People like to take sides without even bothering to investigate the details.

Now go play your 360, you dirty fanboy you.

Well, not as a poster, but I can't seem to resist visiting it on a frighteningly consistent basis. I outgrew GameFAQs, but I still have the need, you know...?

I've been reading it a lot lately just because I'm stuck on the parents' dialup connection and the thread list loads much faster than any blog for getting gaming news in a concise way.

To the thread at hand: I totally don't understand why the Japanese are buying the PS3 and the xbox360, other than the fact that most actual otakus I met over there were sniveling Sony fanboys (and that extends well beyond video games and into every product they make, too).  The Wii's success isn't particularly surprising when one considers how many casual people have bought into it - heck, mine's in my parents' living room and they play bowling on it nearly every night.  And if THEY can get really into it, anyone can.  Kudos to Nintendo for finally figuring out that market.

Megavolt, thanks for your post.

I'll second that!

The Nintendo fan in my heart is quite content!  Despite the fact I may never buy a Wii...

As for the XBOX 360, I can sympathise with those who don't have an interest in the system.  My friend brings over his from time to time and it is quite a bit of fun, but personally I don't prefer FPS games, so what motivation is there?  I mean the Live support is fantastic, but its experience is much improved for those players who play games which are popular on Live (as opposed to me booting up Samurai Shodown V on Live and finding, what, 3 matches in a whole week!)  I don't want to make the assumption that the XBOX has only FPS games, but with the amount of diversity available on the PS2, is there really a need to pick up a 360?  Supposedly some other people think the same, as from the last I checked (which was several months ago), PS2s are still selling as much, if not more, per month then 360s and PS3s.

"I wasn't stating that you are bigoted, but that IF the Japanese don't buy the 360 because it originates from North America, THEN that's bigoted."

My view with this is that the system is quite an expensive investment, and whatever reasons one wants to ascribe to the (lack of) buyers, its important to remember how much of an investment buying any of these consoles (but especially the PS3 and 360) are.

csK, true regarding investment, which makes the PS3 sales so far baffling.

I don't use Live that much, unless I'm lining up a game to play with a friend.  I'm guessing I'll be more indiscriminate when Puzzle Fighter HD comes out Wednesday.

As for the FPS argument, which I think is quite true for the original Xbox (which I loathed, btw), but, from Gamespot:

http://www.gamepro.com/news.cfm?article_id=128608  To be honest, looks like we can do with a lot less sports games.  I'm curious how Live match-ups look for sports games, especially as they age.

PS2 has a large back catalog, still has new releases, way cheaper than the 360 and PS3, the HD next-gen game prices are too high in comparison, and people have yet to go HD.  The July sales chart shows the PS2 beating the PSP, 360, and PS3.  The RRoD and MS's long standing hesitance to drop the price (and $50 price drop this month isn't really wowing me either) are issues I'm disappointed MS hasn't handled more gracefully, 3 year warranty notwithstanding.  I guess we'll see how August goes with the price cut when the NPD data is released late next month.  http://www.gamesarefun.com/news.php?newsid=8264

But come on, you're all making it sound as if the PS3 is being sold by the buttload in Japan, but it's STILL being outsold by the PS2 every week! It's only looking slightly good because the 360 is doing so awful by comparison.

As an objective gamer I definitely think the 360 is the much better choice at this point, but I'm sorry to say, as Ryu already pointed out, the Japanese are far from objective.

Also, yes, major credit to Nintendo for figuring out what noone else has been able to.

Did your mommy buy them all for you? 

I own a PS2 and I've abused the crap out of that thing.  Never a single problem.  Same thing with my PSX.

An immature response questioning someones maturity. Either quite witty or you're just being a dick. I'm hoping for the former.

This reminds me of some of the stuff you read on Gamespot that goes like this:

Person stating their opinion: Still, I think $499 dollars is too much for a PS3 let alone a console.

Arrogant person with money to throw around: No it isn't, get a freaking job!

Stuff like this is dreck, especially when one doesn't know the financial situation of the other... I mean $499 may not be a lot to a single person but it probably is to those who have a child or two.

Alright. I think we should all just chill the f--- out and play Goldeneye this weekend.

Well, assuming it somehow was a serious question, even though it seems to lack immediate relevance (other than verifying that it was in fact my investment, which is an underhanded attempt to suggest I was lying), the answer is no.  I bought all three for myself.  I even waited for hours like an idiot at Walmart to get the Wii on launch day.

Agreed.

Well, that or Wave Race.

Bingo.  Finishing college and supporting my 18-month old little girl.  Thanks Ashley.

The former.  I was just angry when I wrote that, and I apologize. 

Agreed.

I wasn't trying to be a prick by rubbing it into anyone's face; it was responding to the "360 fanboy" comment.  Although, I guess you can be a fanboy of one and still own all three, but it was still meant to suggest how I have some grounds, not that it changes the subjective nature of the argument, to like the 360 over the PS3.  Although, having a vested interest in the 360 is reason to want more support in Japan, where a lot of game companies I respect and admire are based.

Though I'm finishing college I don't have a child, so obviously I can splurge on crap I'd otherwise would have to spend on my child.  Honestly, none of the three systems come close to an investment like supporting a child.  That's nothing over which to get angry or be defensive.  To be on topic to my tangent in this thread, I doubt that is an excuse why so many Japanese do not own a 360.

LOL, that idea is so brilliant in its simplicity.

Only if we can play with the paintball cheat.