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Datschge Nov 22, 2007

Ephidel wrote:

Translating is just getting the meaning across.

Which have to be found first if everything has no clear meaning but instead are interpretable on multiple levels. And every translation changes that in not so subtle language dependent ways.

Ephidel wrote:

You DO NOT want to learn German, the case endings will practically have you CRYING with frustration. I'd much rather talk about Hugo Rafael Chavez Frias than unemployment in Germany, it really didn't help that the subject was so boring.

Ihr habt nichts von den berühmten Dichtern und Denkern gelesen? o.O

Amazingu Nov 22, 2007

Datschge wrote:

Ihr habt nichts von den berühmten Dichtern und Denkern gelesen? o.O

See, that's one of the advantages of being Dutch: you can understand German without any effort, and you don't have to bother with case endings at ALL!
Plus you get to speak in a language that nobody understands! Yay!

En zouden we dan nu gewoon allemaal weer terug kunnen naar het oorspronkelijke onderwerp alstublieft?

Jodo Kast Nov 22, 2007 (edited Nov 22, 2007)

Ephidel wrote:

You DO NOT want to learn German, the case endings will practically have you CRYING with frustration.

I took Latin 11 years ago and it had (still does) 7 cases. They are:

Nominative (subject)
Accusative (object)
Genitive (possessive)
Dative (indirect object)
Ablative (don't remember the function of this one)
Locative (rarely used)
Vocative (rarely used - The most well known example of the vocative is when Caesar said 'Et tu, Brute?'. One used this case when directly addressing people.)

I started to study Russian after I had studied Latin and noticed that Russian has 8 cases! I had just dealt with a case language, so I decided to pursue other interests. I've been at Korean for a while now and cases are absent. So are verb conjugations. Personal pronouns are rarely used and indication of plurality is optional.

An interesting similarity between Russian, Latin and Korean is that they don't have articles. There is no word for 'the', 'a', or 'an'.

One of the strangest things I have ever read about foreign languages is that in Vietnamese and Chinese, there used to be no word for 'word'. In fact, I have read there is still some confusion about 'word' in those languages.

Shoebonics Nov 22, 2007

Bernhardt wrote:

My philosophy on reality:

THERE IS NO SPOON.

HOMER: Mmmm.. Bendy-Spoon...

Ephidel Nov 22, 2007

I envy you Amazingu, it's a shame that you can't learn Dutch very easily here in the UK. Meine Scheise ist auf feuer, or something like that. There's just something that's not very fluid about Northern European languages.

Amazingu Nov 23, 2007

Ephidel wrote:

There's just something that's not very fluid about Northern European languages.

What the hell is that supposed to mean!?

Also: the UK stretches farther into the North than Germany (or Holland), so what on earth do you mean?

Jodo Kast Nov 23, 2007

Ephidel wrote:

There's just something that's not very fluid about Northern European languages.

Perhaps the prosody of them eludes you. Everything about foreign languages is fine until it's time to speak like a native.

JasonMalice Nov 23, 2007

Jodo Kast wrote:
Ephidel wrote:

There's just something that's not very fluid about Northern European languages.

Perhaps the prosody of them eludes you. Everything about foreign languages is fine until it's time to speak like a native.

Polish, is a difficult language.

Ephidel Nov 23, 2007

The UK FEELS non-european and BEHAVES non-european. Most people here DEFINITELY DO NOT consider themselves as europeans. FACT. I, on the other hand, try not to be like that. We didn't join the Euro because IT'S CRAP. GBP is waayyy better, you would have kept it too if you lived here. I preferred the variety of currencies, it added something to the national identities of their respective countries.

Amazingu Nov 23, 2007

Yeayh, I'll hand you that Non-European thing. The Brits definitely like their isolated position far far away from the mainland don't they? I guess that's why most other Europeans think they're kind of cocky.

The problem with the Euro is that, at least in Holland, after recalculation prices of goods were adjusted upwards and salaries were adjusted downwards. Yeah, way to get people to accept your new currency.
Now that the dust has settled though, it is extremely convenient to have a currency that can be used in most (West-)European countries. I kinda miss the old guilder too, but you can't beat the convenience of not having to exchange anymore.

Ephidel Nov 24, 2007

Convenience or no, the old currencies had more individual character. It made going abroad interesting for a change. Now it just feels crap to be honest, the Euro seems to be getting stronger though. Europe is a continent which has had so many wars between ourselves, to have a piece of your national identity taken away in a pro-european PR/economic move like that seems to rubbish all of those wars. Wouldn't you rather be Dutch than European Amazingu. You're all on the verge of being assimilated yikes

Amazingu Nov 24, 2007

Why can't I be both? It's what I've been all my life so far.
Actually, I don't give a damn about being a Dutchman, I haven't felt at home in my own country for quite some time now, so I don't care if it gets assimilated or not. I'm fine where I am, here in Japan.
They'd better not touch our beautiful language though!

Datschge Nov 24, 2007 (edited Nov 24, 2007)

Every Euro country still has its own head image for all coins with only the tail side with the value being standardised, as far as local identity is concerned.

As for England in the EU, I often wish it hadn't joined at all since it usually use its position to block any significant changes to the community which keeps the EU mostly just a financial and economical union up to today (where England with its financial centre London and its lax corporate rules fittingly profits from).

Ephidel Nov 24, 2007

MWAHAHAHA!!! I'm starting to see the advantages of being British. This country is still crap though, I'll move to Canada, or Norway, or maybe even Hokkaido, Japan. You can probably guess, I like it cold cool

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