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SonicPanda Aug 26, 2008

If you stop and think about it, the things that we get well and truly angry about, even if only briefly, work as a good barometer for how screwed up our priorities are. Case in point: watching the news any given night, I hear about corruption, murder, and desolation running rampart, and none of it affects me; my temper stays in check. But then I read this:

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/stor … d=93417780

...and I start gesticulating, shouting at the computer screen, and have to pace with a nice fresh soda in hand before I calm down and realize getting upset about something like that is a little...off. This happen to anyone else?

COLONEL MUSTARD IS NOT A FRIGGING FOOTBALL PLAYER

Ramza Aug 26, 2008

As long as the classic version is still available I won't mind. Otherwise, ya, that's fucked up.

And I think it's a fair reaction. ...kind of. I mean, if you found out on the news that your uncle was murdered you'd be pissed. It's what's relevant to you, right? Was it Stalin who said "A million people die, it's a statistic. One person you know dies, it's a tragedy." Something like that. sad

Ramza

Angela Aug 26, 2008

They changed the revolver to a pistol?  But everyone knows that the muzzle velocity of a revolver is slower than that of a pistol - and the slower a gun's muzzle velocity, the more damage it does.  Man, for a game that details grisly murders, they sure dropped the bomb on that one.

Never was a big Clue fan.  Don't get me wrong, it's really fun - but the set-up process always seemed to take forever. I was more of a Chutes & Ladders and Candyland kid anyway.

Jay Aug 26, 2008

Chutes? Chutes? What, snakes aren't good enough for you US folk?

Come to think of it, the whole snakes thing didn't really make any sense.

Ryu Aug 26, 2008

I'm sorry, but the set-up time for Clue can't be anything remotely as bad as any Risk or Axis & Allies game.  I've not played a Clue game since I was a kid though... I prefer the movie.

allyourbaseare Aug 26, 2008

Angela wrote:

I was more of a Chutes & Ladders and Candyland kid anyway.

That's about the cutest thing I've read yet.  smile  Me?  Mouse Trap.

Ashley Winchester Aug 26, 2008

The original version better still be available.

I'm sorry, this goes back to my rant on SEMO about leaving things the &^%* alone. I mean look what happened when they changed Coke?

Also, on a related note I was pretty irked when I saw a story where they wanted to take out the cig smoking scenes out of tom and jerry cartoons. So screw perserving the past and parents putting stuff like this in prospective for their children.

Also also, I get really annoyed when I hear things are censored or no longer air because of Twin Tower references. Is it really nessacary to quit airing an episode of Hey Arnold! because the TT are in the skyline of the final scene before the credit roll? Doesn't this fight the idea of 911 = never forget?

Zane Aug 26, 2008

When I first saw this thread title I thought it was going to be about my ex-girlfriend.

Here's how I feel about the new Clue: "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."

Here's how I feel about everything else in my life: "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."

Arcubalis Aug 26, 2008

allyourbaseare wrote:
Angela wrote:

I was more of a Chutes & Ladders and Candyland kid anyway.

That's about the cutest thing I've read yet.  smile  Me?  Mouse Trap.

Haha, I would bust our Mouse Trap on a weekly basis, but I never actually played the game itself.  I just kept setting up the little trap and setting it off.  It was awesome.

Oh, and Clue sucks!  Candyland rocks!

Zorbfish Aug 26, 2008

Angela wrote:

I was more of a Chutes & Ladders and Candyland kid anyway.

*Draws card from deck, Turns card over*

WHAT. THE. f---! PLUM? f---ing PLUMPY. I'M TWO SQUARES AWAY FROM WINNING THIS STUPID GAME AND NOW I HAVE TO GO BACK TO f---ing BEGINNING!!!?

*Looks at opponent*

YOU f---ing CHEATER, YOU RIGGED THE DECK.

*Fist fight ensues*

Candyland never ended well with me...

Angela Aug 26, 2008

Zorbfish wrote:

WHAT. THE. f---! PLUM? f---ing PLUMPY. I'M TWO SQUARES AWAY FROM WINNING THIS STUPID GAME AND NOW I HAVE TO GO BACK TO f---ing BEGINNING!!!?

Well, you'll be delighted to know that Plumpy was officially scrapped in 2002 - replaced by one Mama Ginger Tree.  Dunno if she still serves as the same damning wild card, though.

And here, a rather interesting article exploring the negative implications that Plumpy has had on children's lives.  Guess you can add your experiences to the pile:

http://www.lucubrations.net/2007/08/kic … rious.html

avatar! Aug 26, 2008 (edited Aug 26, 2008)

Angela wrote:

They changed the revolver to a pistol?  But everyone knows that the muzzle velocity of a revolver is slower than that of a pistol - and the slower a gun's muzzle velocity, the more damage it does.

I'm curious as to where you get your info.
The velocity of a bullet depends on the amount of propellant in the cartridge. There are revolvers that shot bullets with muzzle velocity that is much greater than most typical automatics (I assume that's what you meant by pistol). Also, a slower velocity does more damage? No, just no. If you don't believe me than have a friend throw a little pebble at you. Tell me if it hurts. Now, imagine that pebble was going at 1000 ft/s. Think it would hurt less?

As for the new Clue game, people should play it before crying, bitching, moaning. Maybe they added some new stuff to it that actually makes it better... or maybe not, but give it a chance at least.

cheers,

-avatar!

Angela Aug 26, 2008

avatar! wrote:

Also, a slower velocity does more damage? No, just no. If you don't believe me than have a friend throw a little pebble at you. Tell me if it hurts. Now, imagine that pebble was going at 1000 ft/s. Think it would hurt less?

A shot fired at slower velocity tends to lodge in the body instead of going right through. Those kind of wounds take a long time to heal. Sometimes they never do.

Master Miller told me so.

Ramza Aug 26, 2008

Ashley Winchester wrote:

I mean look what happened when they changed Coke?

First thought that came to mind:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coca-Cola#Coca_-_Cocaine

The first time they ever CHANGED coca-cola was when they removed Cocaine from it.

so uh....................what are you trying to say? LOL

absuplendous Aug 26, 2008

I'm sure they'll still sell the original Clue... as Clue Classic Edition, Clue 75th Anniversary Edition, and Clue 75th Anniversary Classic Special Edition.

I actually shudder more at the thought of a remake of the movie, especially with those updated characterizations.

allyourbaseare Aug 26, 2008

Virtual Boot wrote:

I actually shudder more at the thought of a remake of the movie, especially with those updated characterizations.

Ha!  I still watch that movie to this day - one of the very few movies I can call a "classic".  A while back though, I was watching it with my wife and I was thinking "Gad, was there always this much cleavage?" ;3

avatar! Aug 26, 2008

Angela wrote:
avatar! wrote:

Also, a slower velocity does more damage? No, just no. If you don't believe me than have a friend throw a little pebble at you. Tell me if it hurts. Now, imagine that pebble was going at 1000 ft/s. Think it would hurt less?

A shot fired at slower velocity tends to lodge in the body instead of going right through. Those kind of wounds take a long time to heal. Sometimes they never do.

Master Miller told me so.

A bullet that actually goes through you, produces two holes. One at the point of entry, one at where it exits the body, and in between it destroys all the tissue. If a bullet is stopped, it clearly doesn't do nearly as much damage. I mean, this is really basic logic. I think Master Miller doesn't know what he's talking about. In fact, I'm sure Master Miller doesn't know what he's talking about, at least not in this case.

cheers,

-avatar!

XLord007 Aug 26, 2008

avatar! wrote:

A bullet that actually goes through you, produces two holes. One at the point of entry, one at where it exits the body, and in between it destroys all the tissue. If a bullet is stopped, it clearly doesn't do nearly as much damage. I mean, this is really basic logic.

Not so fast...  although you will bleed more if you have both entry and exit wounds, bullets that stay in you tend to do a lot more damage because they tumble and bounce off of things, causing much greater disruption than one that just goes in and out.  The shape of the bullet and the material it's made of greatly influence what happens when it hits something.  For example, hydroshocks are designed to mushroom to nearly double in size when moving through tissue.  Another example: one big reason the tiny .223 rounds from the M16/M4 are so effective is because they tumble after entering at very high speed.

avatar! Aug 26, 2008 (edited Aug 26, 2008)

XLord007 wrote:
avatar! wrote:

A bullet that actually goes through you, produces two holes. One at the point of entry, one at where it exits the body, and in between it destroys all the tissue. If a bullet is stopped, it clearly doesn't do nearly as much damage. I mean, this is really basic logic.

Not so fast...  although you will bleed more if you have both entry and exit wounds, bullets that stay in you tend to do a lot more damage because they tumble and bounce off of things, causing much greater disruption than one that just goes in and out.  The shape of the bullet and the material it's made of greatly influence what happens when it hits something.  For example, hydroshocks are designed to mushroom to nearly double in size when moving through tissue.  Another example: one big reason the tiny .223 rounds from the M16/M4 are so effective is because they tumble after entering at very high speed.

Right, Hydra-Shok bullets are meant to expand. Thus, as they pass through tissue they do more damage. Again, they are not effective if moving slowly! Although it's true that some bullets are designed to fragment when they strike, and thus you get shrapnel damage, nevertheless the main cause of damage is because of the velocity. You can't win this argument, it's a matter of basic physics.

The bullet has energy 0.5mv^2
Notice v^2... that's the key here!

Also, if you like, the bullet imparts an impulse on the object which is the change in momentum. Again, change in momentum is simply Del(mv).

Clearly then, Force = impulse/Del(t) and is dependent on velocity.

So anyway you look at it, the imparted energy/force/impulse, all depends on velocity (yeah other factors too, but most importantly velocity).

-avatar!

edit: Isn't physics just awesome smile

Crash Aug 27, 2008

I remember seeing (on TV, so it must be true) that if you're shot in the head with a .22 caliber bullet, the bullet has enough energy to enter the skull, but not enough to break through the other side.  It can reflect off the inside of the skull and bounce around inside, causing tremendous damage to the brain.

Ashley Winchester Aug 27, 2008

Ramza wrote:
Ashley Winchester wrote:

I mean look what happened when they changed Coke?

First thought that came to mind:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coca-Cola#Coca_-_Cocaine

The first time they ever CHANGED coca-cola was when they removed Cocaine from it.

so uh....................what are you trying to say? LOL

Should have seen this coming... I think everyone (or at least anyone who's had a class in marketing) would know which "change" I was talking about.

On a second note, I'm curious: when did this whole trend of linking to wikipedia to prove someone wrong become the "in" thing around here?

*awaits snite comment*

shdwrlm3 Aug 27, 2008

avatar wrote:

If a bullet is stopped, it clearly doesn't do nearly as much damage. I mean, this is really basic logic.

I think she meant that if a bullet gets lodged inside the body, it's more likely to cause infection or other problems in the future.

Ashley Winchester wrote:

*awaits snite comment*

Heh, I could make a snite comment about this, but I won't. Or did I already?

The New Coke thing was fascinating, though. I can't tell the difference between Coke and Pepsi, so I wonder how dramatic the formula change to Coke was to warrant such a negative response.

allyourbaseare wrote:

Me?  Mouse Trap.

I loved that game for all of the wrong reasons. I never even bothered reading the rules. Instead, I would just set up the trap and set it off repeatedly.

I was also all about the Omega Virus. It cost like a billion dollars when it came out, and I waited forever for KB Toys to put it on sale, but it was worth it.

FIVE MINUTES UNTIL I TAKE OVER.

I also loved 13 Dead End Drive, which was like an amalgamation of Clue and Mouse Trap.

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