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avatar! Jan 5, 2009 (edited Jan 6, 2009 by Adam Corn)

Apart from watching TV, listening to music, surfing the net, playing video games...  I know some people around here (such as Jodo) read quite a lot.

So, NOT counting textbooks, or any other book you have to read for class/work, what books are you looking forward to reading?

Myself, I typically tend to read the classics. I have been trying to read some more sci-fi, and last year read Dune, which was great. Anyway, I'm looking forward to reading these (in no particular order):

1)Andrew Lang's Fairy Books... he collected enough for 12 books! That's, a lot of reading...
2)Poetry... I have a bunch of small poetry books to read! Includes masters such as Longfellow, Hughes, Keats, etc...
3)In a Glass Darkly... classic macabre stories! I heard they're great!
4)On the Beach... a classic sci-fi, akin to I am Legend in many ways, I've always wanted to read this!
5)The Devil's Dictionary... dark humor by Ambrose Bierce, a true classic! I've started reading it, since really you read a little here, a little there...
6)Short Stories and Literary Criticism of Mark Twain... I've read many of these, but not all. Was there ever a sharper wit?

Doubt I'll get through all of these, at least not while taking graduate courses! But, who knows... and what about you? What are you reading? Personally, reading is much more enjoyable than watching TV, at least I think so... smile

cheers,

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XLord007 Jan 5, 2009

I am very slowly working my way through all 14 of the original Ian Flemming James Bond novels.  I'm currently in the middle of the fifth one.

Jodo Kast Jan 6, 2009

I have little idea as to what's coming out in 2009, since I don't pay close attention to new releases, but I am aware that NESFA is collecting stories by Roger Zelazny for the purpose of releasing short story collections. Considering I've only read one Zelazny novel (Damnation Alley) and don't actually own any Zelazny books, it might be worth it to pick these up, since new collections tend to be more comprehensive than the original releases.

Since I'm writing myself, I haven't been reading any novels lately. I've been consuming short stories by Barry Malzberg, Alfred Bester, Mark Clifton, H.P. Lovecraft, and Ron Goulart. Malzberg is difficult, Bester is eerily intelligent, Clifton is shocking, Lovecraft is ghastly, and Goulart is risible. In 2009, I'll be making more dents in their short stories. I want to take on a big series, like I did with Riverworld, but that means big time. Hyperion by Dan Simmons looks mightily tempting.

Angela Jan 6, 2009

Your thread subject's a bit misleading, avatar.  Are you asking which books coming out in 2009 we're looking forward to?  Or books we're looking forward to reading in 2009, regardless of its publication date?  I'm guessing the latter, since you didn't list a single upcoming 2009 release in your own selection.

Like Jodo, I don't pay close attention to new book releases, but I am playing a bit of catch-up with the books I currently own.  I'm finishing up Dan Brown's The Da Vinci Code, and I have Patrick O'Brian's entire twenty-one book series Aubrey–Maturin sitting in the corner waiting for me.  Also, in anticipation for the upcoming film in November, I plan to re-read the Canon of Sherlock Holmes - which surmounts to all of Doyle's four published novels and fifty-six short stories.

avatar! Jan 6, 2009

Lovecraft is ghastly? well, I think he would take that as a compliment smile
His works are definitely frightening, but very well written, very psychological... as much as I love Lovecraft, I can't deny that the real king of the macabre is undoubtedly Poe. I hope you've read Poe, if not, it's an absolute must! Definitely, one of the greatest writers of all time, and he was quite a genius in fact, and not just in literature.

As for Ian Flemming, I vaguely remember reading those years ago... "From Russia with Love" was my favorite. I've forgotten many of the others, so I guess they didn't have such a strong impact on me, but then again I was quite the young kid!

I enjoyed Sherlock Holmes greatly. I probably prefer Doyle over Agatha Christie, namely because I'm a fan of the short story. However, "Ten Little Indians" is wonderful. Well, in truth  most anything by Agatha Christie is wonderful, but it's all about personal taste of course!

So, on this board, only 4 people read? Somehow, that wouldn't surprise me...

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cheers,

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Kim K Jan 6, 2009

I'm currently reading The House of the Dead by Dostoyevsky. I read my first two Dostoyevsky novels last year, The Brothers Karamazov and Crime and Punishment, and I enjoyed them both very much. I also have Idiot on my shelf waiting to be read, in addition to Doktor Faustus by Thomas Mann, Tolstoy's Anna Karenina and Resurrection, and five novels by Mika Waltari. And Tolkien's The Children of Húrin I got already in 2007, so I really should read that, too.

Adam Corn Jan 6, 2009

avatar! wrote:

So, on this board, only 4 people read? Somehow, that wouldn't surprise me...

Perhaps only four people here read diligently enough to have a preset list of unreleased books on their agenda for the year ahead, which as has been mentioned is what your title mistakenly implies the thread is about.

Will change it for you now to be a bit more accurate.

longhairmike Jan 6, 2009

i for one do not have the patience to sit still and read. I also marvel at those people with 8" high ceilings,, i mean,, how the hell are you supposed to do cartwheels and stuff, much less trampolining??

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longhairmike wrote:

i for one do not have the patience to sit still and read. I also marvel at those people with 8" high ceilings,, i mean,, how the hell are you supposed to do cartwheels and stuff, much less trampolining??

8" high ceilings? That's 8 inches you know... which I agree is too small for anyone! Unless of course you can turn tiny, like say in "Alice's Adventures in Wonderland", which is an amazing book smile

Or of course, if we were 2-D, such as the case in "Flatland A Romance of Many Dimensions", which is also a classic (and mathematical)!  Too much to read...

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Jodo Kast Jan 7, 2009

avatar! wrote:

Or of course, if we were 2-D, such as the case in "Flatland A Romance of Many Dimensions", which is also a classic (and mathematical)!  Too much to read...

I still occasionally reread the humorous part where our 2D friend observes the zero dimensional creature.

  "Look yonder," said my Guide, "in Flatland thou hast lived; of Lineland thou hast received a vision; thou hast soared with me to the heights of Spaceland; now, in order to complete the range of thy experience, I conduct thee downward to the lowest depth of existence, even to the realm of Pointland, the Abyss of No dimensions.

"Behold yon miserable creature. That Point is a Being like ourselves, but confined to the non-dimensional Gulf. He is himself his own World, his own Universe; of any other than himself he can form no conception; he knows not Length, nor Breadth, nor Height, for he has had no experience of them; he has no cognizance even of the number Two; nor has he a thought of Plurality; for he is himself his One and All, being really Nothing. Yet mark his perfect self- contentment, and hence learn this lesson, that to be self-contented is to be vile and ignorant, and that to aspire is better than to be blindly and impotently happy. Now listen."

He ceased; and there arose from the little buzzing creature a tiny, low, monotonous, but distinct tinkling, as from one of your Spaceland phonographs, from which I caught these words, "Infinite beatitude of existence! It is; and there is none else beside It."

"What," said I, "does the puny creature mean by it'?" "He means himself," said the Sphere: "have you not noticed before now, that babies and babyish people who cannot distinguish themselves from the world, speak of themselves in the Third Person? But hush!"

"It fills all Space," continued the little soliloquizing Creature, "and what It fills, It is. What It thinks, that It utters; and what It utters, that It hears; and It itself is Thinker, Utterer, Hearer, Thought, Word, Audition; it is the One, and yet the All in All. Ah, the happiness ah, the happiness of Being!"

"Can you not startle the little thing out of its complacency?" said I. "Tell it what it really is, as you told me; reveal to it the narrow limitations of Pointland, and lead it up to something higher." "That is no easy task," said my Master; "try you."

Hereon, raising my voice to the uttermost, I addressed the Point as follows:

"Silence, silence, contemptible Creature. You call yourself the All in All, but you are the Nothing: your so-called Universe is a mere speck in a Line, and a Line is a mere shadow as compared with - " "Hush, hush, you have said enough," interrupted the Sphere, "now listen, and mark the effect of your harangue on the King of Pointland."

The lustre of the Monarch, who beamed more brightly than ever upon hearing my words, shewed clearly that he retained his complacency; and I had hardly ceased when he took up his strain again. "Ah, the joy, ah, the joy of Thought! What can It not achieve by thinking! Its own Thought coming to Itself, suggestive of Its disparagement, thereby to enhance Its happiness! Sweet rebellion stirred up to result in triumph! Ah, the divine creative power of the All in One! Ah, the joy, the joy of Being!"

"You see," said my Teacher, "how little your words have done. So far as the Monarch understands them at all, he accepts them as his own - for he cannot conceive of any other except himself - and plumes himself upon the variety of Its Thought' as an instance of creative Power. Let us leave this God of Pointland to the ignorant fruition of his omnipresence and omniscience: nothing that you or I can do can rescue him from his self-satisfaction."

  The full story.

Jay Jan 7, 2009

I got a bunch of books for Christmas I have lined up to read. Obviously, seeing as I got them all in 2008, none of them came out in '09 except one.

Currently reading 'G is for Growing'. It's about 30 years of research on Sesame Street. Great info but, man, it's written like a bunch of school students wrote it - "each topic will be considered in turn". You don't need to tell me that. You don't need a title saying 'Conclusion' over your conclusion. I guess the writers grew up in the academic system and never did anything differently.

Up next is one called 'Dear BBC', basically about children and television. Then I have one called 'Between the Lines - the subtle elements of fiction writing'. I read about writing to give me an excuse not to actually do it. Then there's 'Your Screenplay Sucks!', which I've actually read bits and pieces of already and it seems excellent. It's one you don't have to really read in any particular order.

Somewhere in there I'll read 'Street Gang' by Michael Davis, a history of Sesame Street that is written more like a book, like in a way that someone might actually be interested in reading.

No fiction at the moment. Too much research and stuff to do this year.

Daniel K Jan 12, 2009

Angela wrote:

Also, in anticipation for the upcoming film in November, I plan to re-read the Canon of Sherlock Holmes - which surmounts to all of Doyle's four published novels and fifty-six short stories.

What a coincidence, am actually reading that one right now. Great stuff, although a bit dry in that Victorian sense.

I didn't know there was a new movie coming up. Is it a big production? If you like Sherlock Holmes, you should check out the marvelous British TV-series from the 1980s (info on Wikipedia and Amazon).Its an excellent transfer of the stories to the screen which I find it hard to believe that any movie will be able to beat. As many people have pointed out, the late Jeremy Brett is especially good as Holmes, the definite portrayal of the detective.

Ashley Winchester Jan 12, 2009

I read "I Am America (And So Can You)" by Steven Colbert after Christmas. Though John Stewart's "America: The Book" was better by a little but I may be saying that since it came out/read it first.

Due to a simular topic over at SEMO I kind of want to read The Great Gatsby again... great book.

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Ashley Winchester wrote:

Due to a simular topic over at SEMO I kind of want to read The Great Gatsby again... great book.

I also think The Great Gatsby is... great smile
I have a paper to read for class (astrophysics) tomorrow. It's pretty fun, but time consuming, and I have to give a short presentation on a subject. It shall be a long night.

cheers,

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Grassie Jan 13, 2009

Kim K wrote:

I also have Idiot on my shelf waiting to be read

That's the only Dostoevsky book I've read, besides "The Doppelganger", which was a pain to read - like it made me feel like shit. Most well-regarded literature seems to do that to me. Talking about russian authors, I enjoy Turgenev. Probably because his books are so straight-forward.

I will most likely read some Hamsun, Murakami and Tolstoy this year. I read facts much more than fiction though. I often find fiction rather tedious, but text-books are fun and relaxing to read. And the knowledge all that reading gives me makes me shine in social contexts. tongue I feel that I have to read more though, classics like "War and Piece" and "Ulysses" in particular. Simply because I don't wanna be a pseudo-intellectual without any self-respect. smile

Daniel K Jan 13, 2009

Grassie wrote:
Kim K wrote:

I also have Idiot on my shelf waiting to be read

That's the only Dostoevsky book I've read, besides "The Doppelganger", which was a pain to read - like it made me feel like shit.

I've read 13 books by Dostoevsky, he's probably my favourite author all things considered, but I agree that he's definitely a mixed bag... Some awesome stuff, some pretty mediocre stuff. Like many great authors of the past, he depended on constantly writing to support himself, so some of the stuff unavoidably is "workaday" and sloppy (Poe is another name that comes to mind here. He's done some brilliant stuff, but also some very bland stuff.). My favourite by Dostoevsky is probably "Notes From Underground", but "Crime And Punishment", "The Devils", and "The Brothers Karamazov" were great as well. "The Idiot" I found to be vastly overrated, and yeah, "The Double" is pretty boring and repetitive. Still, even in his worst books there's moments of brilliance - the man had great psychological insight into the human soul.

Raziel Jan 13, 2009 (edited Jan 13, 2009)

Currently reading War and Peace - Book One. I've got a hunch that it's going to be my all-time favourite (Count of Monte-Cristo holds the spot).

Btw, which book should I read if I want to get into Dostoevsky? I read 20-25 pages of The Idiot before dropping it, so I'm a bit cautious about his other works.

avatar! Jan 13, 2009

Daniel K wrote:

Like many great authors of the past, he depended on constantly writing to support himself, so some of the stuff unavoidably is "workaday" and sloppy (Poe is another name that comes to mind here. He's done some brilliant stuff, but also some very bland stuff.).

I believe great authors of the present also depend on writing to support themselves tongue
I do have to disagree about Poe. I've read basically all of Poe's fiction and poetry, and can't think of a single piece which is "sloppy"! Give an example of where Poe is "bland"?

cheers,

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avatar! Jan 13, 2009

Raziel wrote:

Currently reading War and Peace - Book One. I've got a hunch that it's going to be my all-time favourite (Count of Monte-Cristo holds the spot).

Btw, which book should I read if I want to get into Dostoevsky? I read 20-25 pages of The Idiot before dropping it, so I'm a bit cautious about his other works.

I thought Crime and Punishment was fantastic! So if you're interested in the superman theory and human nature in general, you'll love C&P smile

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Daniel K Jan 13, 2009

Raziel wrote:

Btw, which book should I read if I want to get into Dostoevsky? I read 20-25 pages of The Idiot before dropping it, so I'm a bit cautious about his other works.

If you're asking me, I'd say his two best works are "Notes From Underground" and "Crime And Punishment", they leave all the others far behind.

"Notes From Underground" is the perfect starting point to get into Dostoevsky, its considered kind of like his "ideological manifesto". By that I don't mean that its "political" or anything like that, but rather that its a short book that very succinctly surmises most of the main thoughts that run like a red thread through his longer novels. Its by far my favourite work of his.

"Crime And Punishment" is the best of his longer novels, in my opinion. Unlike his other novels (and all of 19th century literature in general, really), its a very fast-paced book - there's very little dead meat in it, to use CD-album language: very little "filler material". Its excellent, and highly recommended.

Most people consider "The Brothers Karamazov" to be his pinnacle, and while I agree that its a profound and great piece of work, I wouldn't recommend that one to beginners, its very slow in places. Check it out if you liked the others.

Don't give up on him after just checking out "The Idiot", I agree that that one wasn't too hot.

avatar! wrote:

I believe great authors of the present also depend on writing to support themselves tongue

What I meant is that many authors in that era (and this holds true especially for Poe) wrote a lot of shorter works regularly for newspapers and periodicals and such, whereas bigger authors today can rely more exclusively on releasing longer books more seldom. If you compare authors like Poe to any big-name author today, they're working in very different writing-cultures and environments.

avatar! wrote:

I do have to disagree about Poe. I've read basically all of Poe's fiction and poetry, and can't think of a single piece which is "sloppy"! Give an example of where Poe is "bland"

First off, you do know that "bland" is subjective, and that what I find bland might very well differ from what you find bland, right?

Second, I've also read all of his fiction and poetry, and I find that, although he's created some truly brilliant stuff that ranks high among my favourites, more than half of his stuff does fall into the "bland" category, and if you judge Poe only by the totality of his works, he's actually quite overrated (please observe: in my opinion). Some of the novels I find bland are: "Bon-Bon", "The Assignation", "The Devil in the Belfry", "The Conversation of Eiros and Charmion", "The Landscape Garden", "The Mystery of Marie Rogêt", "Mellonta Tauta", "X-ing a Paragrab".... Do you need more examples?

XLord007 Jan 14, 2009

Daniel K wrote:

As many people have pointed out, the late Jeremy Brett is especially good as Holmes, the definite portrayal of the detective.

Yeah, I remember watching that on PBS when I was a kid.  The Poirot ones were good too.

avatar! Jan 14, 2009 (edited Jan 14, 2009)

Daniel K wrote:

more than half of his stuff does fall into the "bland" category, and if you judge Poe only by the totality of his works, he's actually quite overrated (please observe: in my opinion). Some of the novels I find bland are: "Bon-Bon", "The Assignation", "The Devil in the Belfry", "The Conversation of Eiros and Charmion", "The Landscape Garden", "The Mystery of Marie Rogêt", "Mellonta Tauta", "X-ing a Paragrab".... Do you need more examples?

I completely disagree. In fact, if you judge the totality of Poe's works, he's absolutely brilliant! Besides creating the modern detective story, Poe also changed the realm of horror and fantasy, as well forging the path for science fiction writers. His poetry is brilliant, and his mastery of English is undeniable.

As for the stories you've mentioned, I've read them all except "X-ing a Paragrab" and "Mellonta Tauta". I can't comment on those, but some of the other works you mentioned tend to be a bit more political in nature. They're satirical, and Poe is not so well known for his satire, although he really was quite fond of satire. I would almost say that Poe is underrated. Many people think of Poe and they think of "horror". Poe's stories certainly are often horrific, but at the same time beautiful. Clearly you and I are not going to agree on Poe, but that's fine, everyone has his or her own opinions. I'm glad you at least read Poe, and I think anyone who's even remotely interested in science fiction, fantasy, horror, surreal, or even poetry, must read Poe!

cheers,

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Daniel K Jan 14, 2009

avatar! wrote:

I completely disagree. In fact, if you judge the totality of Poe's works, he's absolutely brilliant!

Like I said:

Daniel K wrote:

First off, you do know that "bland" is subjective, and that what I find bland might very well differ from what you find bland, right?

I'm not saying that Poe isn't a great author or that he wasn't influential in the ways you mentioned, all I'm saying is that I found some of his stuff to be bland and overrated (and also some of his stuff was brilliant).

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