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Jodo Kast Aug 25, 2009

I'm fascinated by the debate at the end of the Films 2009 thread, in which users here are trying to cope with communication by using (not on) the internet. It's important to make the distinction between using the internet and on the internet. The only thing that is on the internet is information. No humans are on the internet; they can only use it.

I first noticed this problem when I was 28. I met a girl by using the internet and her parents hated me, because they thought I was on the internet. I managed to eventually contact them and tried to explain that I was using the internet; I wasn't actually on it. They had assumed that since I was 'on' the internet, I must've been a very bad person. The internet can be thought of as a car or train with respect to communication; it's simply a way to get to another person. A tool, a device, a method of transport. It's unfortunate that the term 'on' has carried over, but there are other delusory word-plays. A good example is when people think hydrocarbons (fat) are responsible for fat storage in the body (it's actually excessive glucose that leads to 'fat' storage). My personal favorite is when grocery stores use 'organic' to market certain foods. I guess the rest is 'inorganic'? Hehe

The internet caters to impulsive behavior, while older forms of communication restricted it. Before the internet, people could choose public speaking, writing letters, radio, TV, etc. But now, if you want to say it, you can do it without waiting. We haven't had this luxury before. Everyone can get 'published'. Since we all have equal publishing ability, like we all have equal talking ability, I would argue that little has changed. It's simply that the tool (internet) is primitive. Eventually it will advance to the point where we won't be able to tell the difference. In other words, the internet will eventually simulate the days of old when impulsive behavior was restricted (anonymity will be restored to normal levels). Right now we have too much anonymous power; our ancestors didn't have that. Nor will our progeny.

Idolores Aug 25, 2009

Jodo Kast wrote:

Eventually it will advance to the point where we won't be able to tell the difference. In other words, the internet will eventually simulate the days of old when impulsive behavior was restricted (anonymity will be restored to normal levels). Right now we have too much anonymous power; our ancestors didn't have that. Nor will our progeny.

How do you think this shift will occur, and what do you think will act as the catalyst for it?

Zane Aug 25, 2009

Jodo Kast wrote:

My personal favorite is when grocery stores use 'organic' to market certain foods. I guess the rest is 'inorganic'? Hehe

The terms Whole Foods are "organic" and "conventional".

Jodo Kast wrote:

Right now we have too much anonymous power; our ancestors didn't have that. Nor will our progeny.

Very interesting. Reminds me of what's going on in NY with someone that's trying to sue an anonymous blogger:

http://edition.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/08/18 … index.html

Jodo Kast Aug 27, 2009

Idolores wrote:
Jodo Kast wrote:

Eventually it will advance to the point where we won't be able to tell the difference. In other words, the internet will eventually simulate the days of old when impulsive behavior was restricted (anonymity will be restored to normal levels). Right now we have too much anonymous power; our ancestors didn't have that. Nor will our progeny.

How do you think this shift will occur, and what do you think will act as the catalyst for it?

Wow. I can't answer that. Not right now. I'll have to decant back into writing mode for this one.

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