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avatar! Mar 16, 2010

http://finance.yahoo.com/college-educat … l-and-debt

I've always been leery of for-profit schools, since their tuition is VERY high (much higher than state schools), and they just seem to be cheap greedy bastards... kind of what would happen if McDonals or Wal-Mart opened up a school. At any rate, the NYT article above seems to concur with my theories. Has anyone around here thought about for-profit schools or has enrolled in one? My personal advice would be to avoid them like the plague...

cheers,

-avatar!

longhairmike Mar 16, 2010 (edited Mar 16, 2010)

its the little things like this that make me glad i have all that crap well behind me.
I would not want to be facing the college dilemmas of today...

Jodo Kast Mar 16, 2010

The educational system - all of it - simply baffles me. I'm in an extreme minority, though, since I perform much better when not encumbered with other humans. In study groups, I typically had to do the explaining (math and physics, primarily). So it makes me wonder whether everyone is cut out for school or not. My classmates weren't stupid - they just didn't care about the material.

It would make sense to create a dichotomy in the educational system. People like myself should have been weeded out and dumped into pure studies. I learn simply because it's fun. Most people derive no pleasure from studying, so they should be dumped into some sort of practical schooling, where everything is given a cursory glance. Such people do not need to really understand anything, since they don't actually care. I'm completely uninterested in whether or not what I learn can ever have any practical application.

I went to a public school, though. The focus seemed to be on discipline. There was tight control over what we could do, which I would hardly call a learning environment. I never once observed any disciplinary punishment being meted out. Rather, students were given this thing called detention or suspension. Considering the fact that those things did not reduce the behavioral problems, that would indicate they were not working. But the administration steadfastly keep those ineffective methods in place.

Ashley Winchester Mar 16, 2010

avatar! wrote:

kind of what would happen if Wal-Mart opened up a school.

Hey, what a great idea! I already do a million different jobs there, I should teach as well! That way I'll get tenure!

TerraEpon Mar 17, 2010

I  walked into ITT Tech, just with the intention of checking it out, and somehow managed to get registered right there all on account of some little test.

Not only did they constantly push, just assuming I'd want to start right away, but the financial aid person did something so dumb I can't even begin to forgive such a thing -- sent me an email with me there (pointless as I remembered the info needed), then had me open the email, then didn't even let me log out before trying to continue.

Ashley Winchester Mar 17, 2010 (edited Mar 17, 2010)

TerraEpon wrote:

I  walked into ITT Tech, just with the intention of checking it out, and somehow managed to get registered right there all on account of some little test.

Not only did they constantly push, just assuming I'd want to start right away, but the financial aid person did something so dumb I can't even begin to forgive such a thing -- sent me an email with me there (pointless as I remembered the info needed), then had me open the email, then didn't even let me log out before trying to continue.

It's this kind of think that drives my distaste for the military. They will say ANYTHING to get you in.

I remember the crap they said to my old friend's mother. My "friend" was (and still is) a raging a-hole - really, he is - and the recruiter said she would get the son she always wanted after he was in the military. HA HA - WRONG! 2 years and a medical discharge (bum knee that gave him an excuse not to go to Afghanistan despite the fact all he could talk about was legally shooting people) he was still what he was before.

I haven't hung out with him in years which is perfectly fine, when in high school all he did was use me since I had a computer w/Diablo II.

rein Mar 17, 2010

My jaw dropped when I read the tuition figures listed in the article.  I had no idea that vocational schools charge so much and am bewildered that they're able to enroll people at these prices.

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