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Jodo Kast Jan 26, 2012

I'm referring to this lowly ranked movie on IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1560985/

This was the first movie I went to see in the theater this year (on opening night) and it was pretty full. However, the general opinion at the closure was negative, although I was impressed. For the first time, I heard people yelling that they wanted their money back.

In my opinion, if you don't like horror movies, then you shouldn't watch them. Similarly, if you don't like science fiction movies, then you shouldn't watch them. And above all, if you don't like movies, then you shouldn't watch them.

I wish I could understand why people watch movies of a genre they don't like and then give them poor reviews. I stick to what I like. I must be highly unusual. Most people must not be selective when they decide to watch a movie, or perhaps they are dragged by friends into something they would otherwise avoid.

If you liked Cloverfield or Skyline, then you will like The Devil Inside. They are all 3 filmed in a similar fashion and leave one hanging at the end (which does not bother me). Not everything in life ends in such a way as to be satisfying. So a movie that ends in an unsatisfying way is within the realm of possibility and far more than possible when the life of a human is considered, since each one of our endings is unsatisfying (we die).

Amazingu Jan 26, 2012

Why do you assume that people who do not like this movie do not like the entire genre?

avatar! Jan 26, 2012

Good to have your amusing posts again Jodo smile
Indeed, you make a few generalizations. I really enjoy horror movies! However, I usually don't watch them because they usually bore me and are poorly executed. However, there are people that like such movies, they really like movies that are poorly executed. For these people The Devil Inside is a movie to watch. I have no desire to see such movies. However, a "good" horror movie such as "The Exorcist" or "A Tale of Two Sisters" is something I really enjoy.

James O Jan 26, 2012

Mainstream audiences usually like everything all wrapped up in a nice neat little package by the end of a movie.  No loose ends save for a teaser or something like that.

Jodo Kast Jan 27, 2012

Amazingu wrote:

Why do you assume that people who do not like this movie do not like the entire genre?

It's even worse than that. I can't picture such people liking anything. My opinion of the whole of humanity dropped for several moments after hearing cries of frustration and anguish over a movie that was decent enough to end harshly. I felt elation at the realism.

As an example, I do not like the ending of Independence Day, since the aliens lose. In reality, they would win. It's a yawn-yawn-yawn movie. My eyes would open if the aliens really did complete their plan.

I'm not demanding that movies be more realistic, but I want to see something different. And reality, in the format of film, is different. I want to see movies that take situations that are improbable and show a realistic progression of events. I felt that The Devil Inside did just that. Many things about the movie were highly improbable, yet within that "universe" where possessions and demons are real, I felt convinced of the verity of the events.

(I do enjoy some fanciful films where the good guys always win. Die Hard is one such example.)

Amazingu Jan 27, 2012

Jodo Kast wrote:

I'm not demanding that movies be more realistic, but I want to see something different.

Well, I do absolutely agree that more films/games/books can stand to have less happy endings, you should also understand that just because YOU liked this movie and others didn't, doesn't mean that those other people simply do not like the genre at all, or are just flat out wrong in their opinions.

I haven't seen this movie, so I can't comment, but I've seen enough horror flicks to know that the ratio of quality to crap is pretty much 10% vs 90%.

avatar! Jan 27, 2012

Amazingu wrote:
Jodo Kast wrote:

I'm not demanding that movies be more realistic, but I want to see something different.

Well, I do absolutely agree that more films/games/books can stand to have less happy endings, you should also understand that just because YOU liked this movie and others didn't, doesn't mean that those other people simply do not like the genre at all, or are just flat out wrong in their opinions.

I haven't seen this movie, so I can't comment, but I've seen enough horror flicks to know that the ratio of quality to crap is pretty much 10% vs 90%.

If you want to see "good" movies that are more "realistic" you need to start watching more independent films and get outside of mainstream Hollywood. For instance, one of my favorite movies is Pan's Labyrinth. If you have not seen that, you should, and you'll like it (or love it)!

Idolores Jan 27, 2012

The Orphanage, Alien, The Excorcist, and Jacob's Ladder rank among my favorites. I'll second Pan's Labyrinth, though it isn't really horror.

James O Jan 27, 2012

I was actually quite intrigued and surprised by the movie Insidious.  Great ending.

longhairmike Jan 27, 2012

do they use the INXS song anywhere in the movie?

Angela Jan 27, 2012 (edited Jan 29, 2012)

I thought the reason why The Devil Inside's ending didn't go over so well was because it was presented as some blatant marketing scheme?

Says Badass Digest:

But why does everybody hate the movie so much? I think it all boils down to one terrible idea on Paramount's part, an idea they thought was super clever but which feels like a big, grinning 'f--- you' to the audience. .... The screen goes black and a title card comes up reading (and I'm paraphrasing here, but it's pretty close): "The facts of the Rossi case have never been fully established. To follow the continuing investigation, visit TheRossiFiles.com."

What Paramount and the filmmakers failed to understand was that the title card feels like a cheat. All found footage films end in a sudden climax.  ..... And the ending, frankly, isn't any worse than the non-endings of a bunch of other found footage films, including the granddaddy of the modern genre, The Blair Witch Project. But it's that title card that's upsetting everybody.  Without the text, audiences would have been more or less okay with the movie.

As it stands, though, the text reads like Paramount is directing you to a website to see the end of the film. That isn't the case - the website is really just some immensely boring viral marketing crap that you usually see BEFORE a movie, not after. The movie's ending is the ending, and there isn't some secret reel of footage to be discovered. But by the time anyone discovers that it's far too late - they already hate the film.

Jodo Kast Jan 28, 2012

Amazingu wrote:

you should also understand that just because YOU liked this movie and others didn't, doesn't mean that those other people simply do not like the genre at all, or are just flat out wrong in their opinions.

That seems like a lot to understand. It's easier to make assumptions about all those other people. They'll never know about my assumptions, but you seem concerned about it for some reason. Perhaps you should tell them I am being unfair. Lol.

Jodo Kast Jan 28, 2012

Idolores wrote:

The Orphanage, Alien, The Excorcist, and Jacob's Ladder rank among my favorites. I'll second Pan's Labyrinth, though it isn't really horror.

Same here. I would have to include Phantasm II, Hellraiser and Amityville Horror II.

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