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vert1 Sep 10, 2014

London, UK – 10th September, 2014 – Activision Publishing, Inc., a wholly owned subsidiary of Activision Blizzard, Inc. (Nasdaq: ATVI), announced today that the company sold more than $500 million of Destiny into retail stores and first parties worldwide as of day one, making the game the biggest new video game franchise launch in history.


“Based on extraordinary audience demand, retail and first party orders worldwide have exceeded $500 million for Destiny,” said Bobby Kotick, CEO of Activision Blizzard. “This industry milestone marks another blockbuster success for our company and demonstrates our unique ability to create some of the most successful entertainment franchises in the world. The success of Destiny, along with the recent introduction of Blizzard Entertainment’s Hearthstone, is further validation of our unique capabilities to create great entertainment franchises from the ground up.”


Destiny launched at over 11,000 midnight openings around the world, as fans in over 178 countries (Source: Radian6) shared their fervour on YouTube and in social media.


“Since the beginning, we’ve been confident that our investment and belief in Destiny would pay off. But not many people believed we’d be able to say it did so on day one,” said Eric Hirshberg, CEO of Activision Publishing. “Destiny is officially the biggest new franchise launch in our industry’s history. It’s also the highest-selling day one digital console release in history. We have more confidence than ever that Destiny will become one of the iconic franchises of this generation and Activision’s next billion dollar brand. Most importantly, it’s just a great game which we can’t stop playing. A big thanks to our incredibly talented team and partners who helped make this happen; most importantly, our partners at Bungie.”

Adam Corn Sep 10, 2014 (edited Sep 11, 2014)

Can really do without block quotes of press releases.

In fact I'm hereby banning vert1 from block-quoting outside sites and articles.  From now on either link or paraphrase.

Sorry vert1 but you just go too far with the quotes.  I'm posting in the open so if anybody disagrees with the decision they can intervene on your behalf.

Admin edit: Moved the previous post and these several subsequent ones about block-quoting from the Destiny thread to this new topic.

Ashley Winchester Sep 10, 2014

Adam Corn wrote:

Can really do without block quotes of press releases.

In fact I'm hereby banning vert1 from block-quoting outside sites and articles.  From now on either link or paraphrase.

Sorry vert1 but you just go too far with the quotes.  I'm posting in the open so if anybody disagrees with the decision they can intervene on your behalf.

Thank you. I've been wanting to say this for a while but didn't want to seem like an a-hole.

vert1 Sep 11, 2014 (edited Sep 11, 2014)

Okay.

Block quotations are used for the long quotation. The Chicago Manual of Style recommends using a block quotation when extracted text is 100 words or more, or at least eight lines.

avatar! Sep 11, 2014

vert1 wrote:

Post #8 can reasonably be labelled "block quoting", and I toned everything down from there; however, I don't consider the press release a "block quote" at all. It's 4 paragraphs; two of which are only one sentence.

This ruling has set a dangerous precedent--we start with eliminating large quotes and soon we will be eliminating large posts. I have never seen the problem with quoting a lot from an outside site: It saves everyone time by not having to click to go to the website and it makes for a more serious original post to read (or skim read).

I don't think Adam is trying to infringe upon your free speech. I have to admit, I also don't like large block quotes, and in fact, I don't read them. It's not just that they're rather long, also on my browser it's unpleasant to the eyes. You could argue that I should revamp my browser, but I would argue that it's best just to summarize things and share your thoughts. As Thoreau said, "So simplify the problem of life, distinguish the necessary and the real."

vert1 Sep 11, 2014

Just for clarity: I did not edit my post after avatar! posted.

Amazingu Sep 11, 2014

vert1 wrote:

Okay.

Block quotations are used for the long quotation. The Chicago Manual of Style recommends using a block quotation when extracted text is 100 words or more, or at least eight lines.

"The moderator of this forum asked me not to use block quotes anymore, so I'm going to quote a style guide to imply that I was right."

vert1 Sep 11, 2014 (edited Sep 11, 2014)

That's your interpretation.

According to the APA manual, quotations that are 40 words or more are considered block quotations and are formatted differently than regular quotations.

source: http://writingcenter.waldenu.edu/874.htm

So I am allowed to quote up to 39 words from outside sites or articles, Adam?

Amazingu Sep 11, 2014

vert1 wrote:

That's your interpretation.

According to the APA manual, quotations that are 40 words or more are considered block quotations and are formatted differently than regular quotations.

source: http://writingcenter.waldenu.edu/874.htm

So I am allowed to quote up to 39 words from outside sites or articles, Adam?

Then by all means, enlighten me as to what the purpose of that post was.

Because reading this snarky comment makes it seem like my interpretation was right on the money.

vert1 Sep 11, 2014 (edited Sep 11, 2014)

I agreed to the new restriction by writing "Okay." The quote afterwards was just merely a quote added on to what it is I have been barred from. Now I have seen that 60 words extra under Chicago style is a lot more to work with than 39. If this is seriously going to be enforced I need to know which one is accepted. Not trying to be snarky.

jb Sep 11, 2014

No one cares what format you use for quoting. Adam told you to stop block quoting because it's a complete waste, not because it's the wrong format.

I think the point is -- if you want to discuss something, discuss it. If you want to incite discussion, do so productively. Just block quoting a press article does nothing but make you look and sound like a robot. You're not actually discussing anything or meaningfully discussing anything. And when you do actually post things that aren't block quotes, we all know how little people actually agree with your views anyway.

I've taken to largely ignoring most of your posts anyway because they don't add anything to the discussions at hand. I'm sure others feel the same way.

vert1 Sep 11, 2014 (edited Sep 11, 2014)

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=892019
New details on The Evil Within from Game Informer

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=892313
Media Create Sales: Week 36, 2014 (Sep 01 - Sep 07)

Look at those threads on Neogaf. They have a substantial op that provides everyone information that has been revealed. The poster acted as a reporter. I did the same with the press release. It's about providing the article without spin and without leaving out context. What I am now barred from is reporting things like that.

Here is what my posts will start to look like:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=892178

So my threads will all start to look like avatar!'s threads. Okay then.

jb wrote:

I've taken to largely ignoring most of your posts anyway because they don't add anything to the discussions at hand. I'm sure others feel the same way.

This has to be corrected. None of my posts in gaming (or anywhere else) take away from discussion. Every post I copy-and-paste from another game forum is from someone who cares to put detail into their analysis of game mechanics. It is productive because it provides people with insightful posts by knowledgeable persons. This gives us more things to discuss. If you look at what I have posted (game mechanics) versus what was mostly being discussed (money) you'd realize I am providing better contribution on the game.

You want to break down this thread's contributions:
#1 post - Youtube video linked, but no caption/title underneath to provide someone with a description of what they are clicking on. Second thing: Links to and centers the discussion on the game story (the least important part of a videgame) which has now been revealed by gamers to be pure garbage instead of linking to and posting trailer leading to discussion on the game mechanics and aesthetic content.

#2 post - The shortest post so far. Comment on a voice actor. Nothing written on game mechanics or aesthetic content. A post that seems disinterested in discussing a videogame.

#3 post - The largest post so far. Decent concise message on the game presentation and company marketing.

Jump to  #6 post - The largest post so far. Starts off with a youtube link that has a description title underneath. The one that brings the discussion to the important part (teh "gameplay").

#7 post - Person writes that the combat is spot-on, but does not explain any further. Writes more than post 1, 2, 4, and 5.

#8 post - Person asks for an explanation on the combat. Post then quotes detailed comments on the combat among other important aspects of how a game plays. The largest post providing STC with player impressions in the gaming community playing the game. These posts are significant break downs and seem tailored off from casual analysis.

#9-#13 posts- Back to money discussion on games in general.

#14-#17 posts - Conversation goes back to game discussion

Final Remarks: I put great effort into the majority of my posts. If I quote something: (1) This means I copy-paste from forums after diluting dozens of pages of one sentence posts that have little value to gather the low quantity high quality posts. This takes time. (2) Some posts you see in other threads that I block quote are not copy-pasted from online and require me to type up every word.

Adam Corn Sep 11, 2014 (edited Sep 11, 2014)

vert1 I am asking you to follow the rules for block-quoting exactly as I stated them - NO block-quoting of outside sites and articles period.  Summarize and link.

If problems arise with other people block-quoting then I'll deal with it then, but the fact is you're the only one here who demonstrates that behavior.  Even assuming the style guides you quote are in regard to internet forum behavior, every forum and community has its own dynamic, and it should be clear that your block-quoting behavior among other things doesn't follow the dynamic established by people who have been active here much longer than you.

This isn't NeoGAF or any other site, this is Soundtrack Central, and if you find the dynamic on other sites suits your style of discussion better then perhaps you should consider focusing your attention there instead.

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