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avatar! Jul 7, 2015

http://www.idigitaltimes.com/nintendo-n … -nx-455473

"The thing [NX] had better be damn cool, and have some great games coming for it. Basically, Nintendo had better get this right. There’s not much room for failure anymore."

OK, so it's a poorly written article. Still, I think everyone agrees that Nintendo needs to have a hit on their hands. It also does raise a valid point. Will the NX just replace the arguably underused Wii U?

raynebc Jul 7, 2015

I remember reading similar speculation someplace recently and I would be disappointed if they sit on the release for that long.  At the very least they could throw together some more HD re-releases instead of just not releasing anything else really good for the Wii U.

Jay Jul 7, 2015

While it would frustrate me, I think a new Zelda launching with a new console could have a lot more value to them than a new Zelda launching on a dead outgoing one. They were far too late on this one.

Ashley Winchester Jul 7, 2015

I don't know... personally I was thinking they'd do a Twilight Princess with the new Zelda and release it on both consoles.

GoldfishX Jul 7, 2015

I think Satoru Iwata needs to go look at the upcoming release schedule if he thinks a weak launch lineup was the cause of the Wii U's relative failure. Barely having 1 game worth buying per quarter (if that) tends to hurt a console's lifecycle/reputation. Having a remastered Wind Waker as one of your main Christmas titles one year is a pretty dire scenario. At the very least, it launched with a 2D Mario...safe, but impossible to argue with.

Does anyone else see the Wii U as the Sega Saturn, minus the great import library? Great small collection of games, pretty good hardware, just not nearly enough support overall and quickly overtaken by other systems in sales, despite a headstart at launch?.

Ashley Winchester Jul 7, 2015 (edited Jul 7, 2015)

GoldfishX wrote:

Does anyone else see the Wii U as the Sega Saturn, minus the great import library? Great small collection of games, pretty good hardware, just not nearly enough support overall and quickly overtaken by other systems in sales, despite a headstart at launch?.

Eh... I don't know if you can make that comparison as there's a few things it doesn't cover.

I don't believe the WiiU's architecture is as straightforward as the PS4 and XB1's... but it's nowhere near the cluster(expletive) that the Saturn's was. From what I read it really took a keen mind to make the most of the Saturn's dual processors.

In that sense first party titles were often the ones to get... which they have in common... but honestly too many differences. I mean the WiiU lived and died by the gimmick it tried to introduce.

Lot of rumors about the NX swirling around now... not saying they're true but not hearing anything promising yet.

Amazingu Jul 7, 2015

Ashley Winchester wrote:

I don't know... personally I was thinking they'd do a Twilight Princess with the new Zelda and release it on both consoles.

If they ARE saving the new Zelda for the NX, I'm pretty sure this is what they'll do.
The fan backlash would be too big if they decided not to release it on Wii U altogether.

Would be funny if they mirrored the entire world again between each version (even if there's no reason to).

GoldfishX Jul 7, 2015

I meant Saturn as producing good-looking games (especially of the 2D variety). I remember seeing Mario Kart 8 for the first time on a friend's Asus monitor and I was just like, "Oooh...pretty colors!" That is what I meant by the comparison.

The hardware on both is a mess (Saturn for internal design, Wii U for gamepad integration...I want to believe Nintendo learned their lesson after the N64).

XLord007 Jul 8, 2015

This article is nothing but speculation, but it's perfectly reasonable to think that Zelda Wii U will either be moved to NX or be on both NX and Wii U a la Twilight Princess. The real question will be just when the NX is released. Those rumors of a July 2016 release are bullshit. Even if the hardware was ready by then (it won't be), there's no way they'd have enough software ready to make the launch worthwhile. Nintendo is making money hand over fist with amiibos, Splatoon has been a surprise success, and their digital strategy is slowly becoming more successful, so as much as the pundits want to see the NX released ASAP, I wouldn't expect it before November 2016, and even that's optimistic.

Jay Jul 8, 2015

Not have software ready didn't stop them with the WiiU. This is exactly why holding Zelda back might actually be a good idea. For their last couple of launches, they have seemed so far behind on the actual software. They need to launch with some big hitters (more than one, and not just a HD remake).

But like you, I have had serious doubts about the entire NX rumours. Even from Nintendo's own statements, I reckon it only exists as a concept made up to stop shareholders from bailing. I reckon they are scrambling about behind the scenes trying to pull something together and I don't think there will be any software development on it for some time that aren't just WiiU games bumped over.

I don't think they can rescue the home console space at this point though. They may not need to so maybe from their perspective that's fine.

Sami Jul 8, 2015

Jay wrote:

Even from Nintendo's own statements, I reckon it only exists as a concept made up to stop shareholders from bailing. I reckon they are scrambling about behind the scenes trying to pull something together and I don't think there will be any software development on it for some time that aren't just WiiU games bumped over.

There are way too many news, Nintendo PR statements, "insider infos" and rumors for the NX to be just a concept. It looks like Nintendo is getting ready for a fast reveal-release schedule sometime in 2016.

Remember, the PlayStation 4 wasn't even officially unveiled until February 2013, and the actual console was only shown at E3 2013, some 5 months before the actual release date.

As for the games, if projects are being bumped up from WiiU now onto the NX, where is the line between "former WiiU project" and "new NX project"? Back on the Wii, there were plenty of bumped up GameCube games. Everybody knows about Twilight Princess. Super Paper Mario was supposed to be GameCube game. Mario Party 8 was obviously a Gamecube game that was upgraded onto Wii controls. Even Metroid Prime on Wii was first demoed with Metroid Prime 2, before Prime 3 was officially unveiled later. There were plenty of Gamecube development kits being used in early Wii development.

The same kind of thing seems to be happening with WiiU. Nintendo knows WiiU is a lost cause, and they're betting on NX.

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