http://www.nintendo.com/games/detail/me … -force-3ds

"Enlist with the Federation Force to join a four-player* local or online** squad in this co-op sci-fi shooter. Fight alongside teammates in your specialized Mech to eliminate the Space Pirate menace and any threat that stands in your way."

There's already a petition to kill this

https://www.change.org/p/nintendo-petit … tion-force

"What we got however is a disgrace of a game with the name "Metroid" slapped on the title. It has no elements at all of what Metroid is about and its a disrespectful manner to old and new fans of the series of showing them that the Metroid franchise is not dead afterall."

They just might have a point...

The best thing that people can do right now is not to pay for this garbage. Seems exactly as denoted in the above quote...

Of course, there were those that derided the decision to convert Metroid to 3D in Metroid Prime. I was one of them. And I was shocked at how much of a classic Metroid feel was retained...

The skeptic in me is still insisting that this whole Federation Farce is just that, though...

Or how about if you don't like it, don't play it? Why denigrate the work people put into it?

This.

Creating a petition to kill this project is seriously pathetic and stupid, not to mention extremely disrespectful.

Is it what I'm looking for? No, so I won't be buying it, end of story.
That doesn't mean I'm going to actively try to stop it from being released. What kind of childish mindset do you have to have to even think like that!?

I think a passionate form of feedback is important, especially if one feels negatively. In this case, I can completely understand, as Metroid has NEVER been about multiplayer.

I can think of a few games where I would happily sign such a petition (Castlevania Judgement, anyone?)

Also, this is not a small mom&pop Indie project...this is a large, high-profile game in an established franchise that is expected to sell a few million copies. I feel there is already a degree of ignorance in the decision-making from the higher-ups if they have looked at the Metroid franchise and decided "oh we're best off making a multiplayer game" and I have no issue with them being called out out on it. If the feedback is negative enough, Nintendo might decide to alter it or cancel it (and move the people designing it to other projects).

I'm kind of torn on this personally.

I think creating a petition to kill the game is silly. However, at the same time, Nintendo should have known better than to follow up the disappointing Metroid other M with something like this. Again, the fans aren't 100% in the right but geez, way to pin a giant kick-me sign on your back.

The same type of mindset that customers had with Diablo III being too "bright and colorful". The people who feel that they, as customers, essentially own the rights to the franchise and are entitled to have the game come out as they see fit.

I so laughed when I saw the "My Little Pony" D3 levels...

And Final Fantasy has never been about 1 on 1 combat, but Dissidia was fantastic.

Okay, not entirely the same, since there's a million FF games and not nearly enough Metroid, but the point still stands: publishers can do with their franchises whatever the f--- they want. They don't owe anyone anything.
If people don't like it they can just not buy the game, period.

Who knows, it might even turn out to be a really fun game?
Why ACTIVELY try to stop a game from being made just because it's not what you want from the series?
It's extremely selfish and exemplary of gamers' pervasive sense of entitlement, as Jazzpaladin said.

I personally would not sign a petition to kill a game (unless there was seriously something wrong with the game, such as racism or something inane like that). At the same time, people do have a right to start a petition to kill the game. Just like publishers can do what they want, consumers are also entitled to that same right. Ultimately though I do agree, what will determine the success of a game is whether people will purchase it. I personally do not see this doing well, but who knows.

I'm pro-consumer and if consumers choose to be vocal about their displeasure of a game or direction of a game, I stand by it. I've never been comfortable with referring to vocal consumerism as a "sense of entitlement", especially if people are speaking with their wallets (now if they're pirating or just bitching without the intent to buy anything...different story) and especially if decisions are business-driven (multipart FFVII remake and Capcom on-disc DLC being two recent shining examples).

It's also worth noting...there is a LOT of random, stupid shit on change.org. This seems quite tame by comparison.

Can't argue with that!!

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying people aren't allowed to complain or voice their displeasure.
I just think there's a big difference between "voicing displeasure" (okay) and "actively trying to kill a project" (not okay). One is being critical, the other is being a spoiled little shit.

And sure, I guess they have the "right" to do this, but that doesn't make it any less despicable.

It's entitlement, pure and simple. I hated the Bayformers and recent TMNT movies, so I spent little to no money on them and convinced my friends to do the same.

I did not however start a petition to block this shit from being made. It has a right to exist.

If you're all about voicing displeasure,  then do the mature thing and let your dollars speak for you. There's nothing constructive about this petition nonsense.

I think it's incredibly optimistic (pessimistic?) to believe a change.org petition is going to threaten the "right" of something to exist. I'd be curious to know if anything on there has ever accomplished its stated goal.

If people are not vocal enough about the types of products they want to see, then they cannot complain when the type of product they do NOT want gets made. I personally want to see consumers that give a damn about how their favorite franchises are treated.

How about Castlevania? Quite a lot of people have been vocal to no avail on that one...

I have no problem with people being vocal as that sends direct feedback and that seems to be a good thing, as far as I can see. The petition is simply a form of expression - it's not a legally binding document that will ever force Nintendo to drop this. However, there is a point where it becomes pitchforks and torches stuff, going beyond expression into hysteria.

Personally, I can understand the issue here. This might actually turn out to be a fun little multiplayer game but it is not what anyone wanted from a Metroid and they seemed to miss that branding this as one would rub people up the wrong way something rotten. It was an error in branding judgement. I can't imagine the choice was ever going to be this or a real Metroid. It was likely this or nothing. So in real terms, I don't think this comes at the expense of a good Metroid game but it certainly highlights the lack of a good Metroid game. And I would have been so happy to see a great Metroid game (2D or Prime-like) on the 3DS.

Isn't this an apples and oranges thing? We all know Konami doesn't give a crap about anything.

As Jay said, it can be good for fans to be vocal. It can also be bad of course, since it could arguably stifle experimentation and creativity. Still, lets say there's no fan feedback before it's released, and Federation fails. Then I can see some execs saying "See, people just don't want to play a Metroid game these days!" whereas at least people are letting Nintendo know they do want to play a Metroid game, just not this! Again, I personally wouldn't support a petition to kill the project, but this game does look like two-week old leftovers.

I think this game would have be fine if Nintendo debuted this game and a new 2D Metroid on 3DS at the same time.

Look its what you wanted! Also try this other game! Its Fun!!!

Because they have been ignoring the Metroid people for a long time now and they release something like this, it was super doomed to fail.

I don't think that there should be a petition to cancel it. Spent resources are already.....spent. Its better for it to come out and see if its any good. Hopefully the amount of hate on it will wear down if it is something fun and worth while.

With that being said, I don't like it. First Person Adventure Metroid Prime series was awesome but I'd rather get the fabled Metroid Dread at this point. Does anyone else think its hilarious that the MetroidVania genre is succeeding so well in indie games right now and yet we cannot get Nintendo to make a new Metroid proper nor can we get Konami to make a new CastleVania. Its ludicrous to me.

Axiom Verge (Metroid/Contra)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVX8RjtJ7YQ

Odallus The Dark Call (CastleVania/Demon's Crest/Ninja Gaiden)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhQ9NbuAOwI

Brave Earth Prologue (CastleVania 3)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tC5Pc6Es4mE

Not to mention ye olde Guacamelee and Shadowcomplex. They need to step up.

I don't know if it's ludicrous but even if it's not major publishers making the games I'm happy to see the gameplay style live on.

You know, it's really interesting. Indie games are basically "hey, we love video games, this is the game we want to play!" whereas a lot of big companies are "hey, make us money" and frankly I can understand both sides of the fence. Unfortunately though, I think large corporations are often run by morons. Perhaps I'm mistaken, but can someone tell me what happened to say Sega? How did they go from producing great games like Sonic and Phantasy star to Football Manager 2016
I'm not sure what's up with Nintendo either. They still publish great games as seen by Fire Emblem. However, they really have not released a high-quality Zelda or Metroid game in years as far as I'm concerned. Especially Metroid. Today, a small group of people, or one very talented person as is the case with Axiom Verge can give players what they want and frankly produce amazing games! I've said it before, I think thanks to indie games and kickstarter, we're in a golden age of gaming, even if it's not AAA games.

I can't really answer this question since the answer would be a mile long, but if you want to read about a topic that's interesting you should do some research on Sega's decline. If the websites I was reading were a book I wouldn't be able to but it down. Despite it being a pretty ugly story it's simply fascinating.

Additionally, if you want to read more about video games and disasters (like Daikanata) I would suggest this book:

http://www.amazon.com/Masters-Doom-Crea … rs+of+Doom

This book is absolutely amazing. I couldn't put this one down. Interestingly enough, did you know John Romero likes Japanese VGM soundtracks? I didn't know that until I read that in this book.

Thanks! It sounds really interesting. I just read the abstract, and can't but help think it will be a movie one day

No problem. I'm not even a big fan of the FPS genre but I love what Doom did and I was just floored at how the author of this book presented its history and the people behind it.

However, it's funny you mention a movie because I think the rights for movie were optioned but nothing's come of it yet. The only negative is I'm so in love with the book I'd probably nitpick a movie based on it to death.

Sega may be starting to take things seriously again. If you want good Sega games again, now's your chance. There was recently a good survey Sega put out basically wanting to know what gamers want for a change. Not too sure if it's still open, but check it out...

http://sgiz.mobi/s3/a6153476587f

Personally, I think Federation Force looks terrible. The bland art and team play turn me off completely. Nintendo should have taken the game concept and paired it with either a new IP or a better fitting one than trying to shoehorn it into the Metroid Prime franchise.