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Jodo Kast Mar 10, 2008

Does time devour one's life or does one's life devour time? You're not supposed to take that seriously, but I did get a webcam. This is a very good and very bad device. I have never used one before until this weekend and it was interesting to (try to) record videos of myself. It's the women, of course. I detest them and love them. They have the same feelings about me. All this detestability over humans and technology leaves me wondering if there is a judgeless, yet fathomable, tangible part of existence. Something free from any sort of hate or love. Something I can turn to and think about in terms that are undefinable. What I want can be obtained, but not in this reality.

DEATH is freedom from everything. But it is not something one can obtain. To obtain something implies it can be used or pondered. In order to stop being disturbed, the possibility of disturbance must be removed, and death can provide (nothing, actually) this convenience (a euphemism).

Do you know what really disturbs me? The fact that I'm attracted to women. Interestingly, I have actually met a woman that told me she was very disturbed that she found men attractive. If, somehow, I could remove this ancient biological hardwiring, which isn't nearly as necessary now as, say, 50,000 years ago, I could make more progress. This is a philosophical issue I wrangle with often. The sex drive is a very important part of humanity, but there is now legislation defining how we should behave in these regards. It would almost be like making laws about how often one may defecate and at what times of the day. The laws concerning sexual behavior do not affect me, but the fact they exist is of enormous interest. It makes me wonder what sort of new laws might come out. A law could be passed that makes it illegal for people with incomes under $75,000 per year to have sex. Another would only allow men over 40 to have sex, and only for the purpose of producing a child. I don't think these thoughts are ridiculous, especially since I recently read that Massachusetts will probably be the first state to legalize marriage between humans and robots. I'm just in a weirded out mood. Pretty soon, it won't be as simple as finding the right person.

absuplendous Mar 10, 2008

Jodo Kast wrote:

The laws concerning sexual behavior do not affect me, but the fact they exist is of enormous interest. It makes me wonder what sort of new laws might come out.

I know I'm not speaking for the whole world, but most of the sex laws in the US that aren't antiquated and incidentally still on the books, or still in place due to national homophobia, are pretty well there to control rape. I don't think attempting to regulate that, or define consequences for it, is as absurd as the future laws you forsee.

DEATH is freedom from everything. But it is not something one can obtain. To obtain something implies it can be used or pondered. In order to stop being disturbed, the possibility of disturbance must be removed, and death can provide (nothing, actually) this convenience (a euphemism).

I have a few friends who have come to that realization too. I understand what you're saying and where you're coming from, but try not to carry that realization with you like a cross. It frustrates me when people mope around either forgetting or dismissing that the joys in life are worth the 'disturbances.' Try not to brood so much on your horrible discovery. A Super NES is a lot more fun when you just play with it than it is when you take it apart and see it as nothing but computer parts.

Zane Mar 10, 2008

Jodo Kast wrote:

It's the women, of course. I detest them and love them. They have the same feelings about me.

That sounds vaguely familiar.

Jodo Kast wrote:

Do you know what really disturbs me? The fact that I'm attracted to women.

I've been thinking a lot about this recently, and I find it funny how men will sacrifice large parts of their life and time and finances for a women. I've done this way too many times than I should have myself, but it's taken the absence of a relationship and the intentional lack of sexual activity for me to see it from a different angle. Once I stopped seeing girls and just started taking time for myself, I became a lot happier. I stopped selling VGM and started buying and enjoying more albums. I got much better at 8 ball and have been a lot less confrontational. I don't have to answer to anyone, I can go out and sing karaoke as much as I want without any relationship-related repercussions, and 24 hours a day is Tommy Time. Is this selfish? Perhaps. Have I possibly just been dating the wrong women? Most likely. Am I going to eventually meet some knockout brunette that sings a rendition of Pat Benetar's "Hell is for Children" that will melt my heart and make me contradict everything that I've said in this paragraph? God, I hope so. While my brain can recognize attraction as just biology, the ol' family jewels are shouting out the opposite. "You need this one, man," they shout through a beer-flavored megaphone.

Jodo Kast wrote:

I recently read that Massachusetts will probably be the first state to legalize marriage between humans and robots.

Does a Super Nintendo count as a robot? If it does, I am all over that.

Jockolantern Mar 11, 2008

Zane wrote:

I've been thinking a lot about this recently, and I find it funny how men will sacrifice large parts of their life and time and finances for a women. I've done this way too many times than I should have myself, but it's taken the absence of a relationship and the intentional lack of sexual activity for me to see it from a different angle. Once I stopped seeing girls and just started taking time for myself, I became a lot happier. I stopped selling VGM and started buying and enjoying more albums. I got much better at 8 ball and have been a lot less confrontational. I don't have to answer to anyone, I can go out and sing karaoke as much as I want without any relationship-related repercussions, and 24 hours a day is Tommy Time. Is this selfish? Perhaps. Have I possibly just been dating the wrong women? Most likely. Am I going to eventually meet some knockout brunette that sings a rendition of Pat Benetar's "Hell is for Children" that will melt my heart and make me contradict everything that I've said in this paragraph? God, I hope so. While my brain can recognize attraction as just biology, the ol' family jewels are shouting out the opposite. "You need this one, man," they shout through a beer-flavored megaphone.

Wow... and I thought I was the only one that managed to fit every single word of this paragraph.  Glad to know there are others like me out there!  Being 24, single, and able to do what I want with all my free time and funds is a breath of fresh air after throwing it all at college and dating...  I know exactly what you mean when you say you're much less confrontational and all around much more jovial.  I feel precisely the same way.  I'm looking forward to the day that one special lady knocks me out and drugs me into seduction for the rest of my life... but, personally, I'd rather that were a bit later than sooner.

-Jockolantern

JasonMalice Mar 12, 2008

I wrestle with this topic often.
Sometimes I have thought about developing a drug that will turn off sex drive.

But, until then, I cannot help but give into women.

Idolores Mar 12, 2008

JasonMalice wrote:

Sometimes I have thought about developing a drug that will turn off sex drive.

There's always marriage, but that's kind of expensive.

allyourbaseare Mar 12, 2008 (edited Mar 12, 2008)

Idolores wrote:
JasonMalice wrote:

Sometimes I have thought about developing a drug that will turn off sex drive.

There's always marriage, but that's kind of expensive.

And here all this time I thought it was World of Warcraft. 

Marriage doesn't necessarily turn off the sex drive, children do.  We have one and I think that's it for me.

Nemo Mar 12, 2008

I woke up today and found myself hungry.  I was very disturbed by this because food costs monies, and earning money takes time and I realized I would never be able to satiate this drive.  Simply put,  I'm tired of 'crapping' out my money, time, and life.  Such a dire cycle I've been thrust into, alas maybe I'll just kill myself.  Gawd, I'm so deep!

Kirin Lemon Mar 12, 2008

Nemo wrote:

I woke up today and found myself hungry.  I was very disturbed by this because food costs monies, and earning money takes time and I realized I would never be able to satiate this drive.  Simply put,  I'm tired of 'crapping' out my money, time, and life.  Such a dire cycle I've been thrust into, alas maybe I'll just kill myself.  Gawd, I'm so deep!

This sums up Jodo's topics fairly well.  The part about sex laws was especially absurd and out of touch with reality.

XLord007 Mar 12, 2008 (edited Mar 12, 2008)

JasonMalice wrote:

I wrestle with this topic often.
Sometimes I have thought about developing a drug that will turn off sex drive.

But, until then, I cannot help but give into women.

You could just get yourself neutered, you know.  Also, there are already many drugs that turn off sex drive.  Many anti-depressants feature decreased libido as a side effect.

Zorbfish Mar 13, 2008

Do you know what really disturbs me? How you could make the leap from talking about a webcam to a rant on women and sexuality in a few sentences. Is it just me, or did I miss something? yikes

Idolores Mar 13, 2008

Zorbfish wrote:

Do you know what really disturbs me? How you could make the leap from talking about a webcam to a rant on women and sexuality in a few sentences. Is it just me, or did I miss something? yikes

I dunno. I tend to do this in person when talking with friends all the time. Jumping from topic to topic with very little tying them together.

Amazingu Mar 13, 2008

Zorbfish wrote:

Do you know what really disturbs me? How you could make the leap from talking about a webcam to a rant on women and sexuality in a few sentences. Is it just me, or did I miss something? yikes

Dude, linking webcams to Women and Sexuality isn't that far a jump AT ALL. Seriously.
Don't make me connect the dots for you.

allyourbaseare Mar 13, 2008

Jodo Kast wrote:

I have never used one before until this weekend and it was interesting to (try to) record videos of myself.                                        It's the women, of course. I detest them and love them.

I think what Zorbfish was trying to say is that there should be another sentence in there somewhere to link the two thoughts.  It is kind of a rough transition.

Bernhardt Mar 13, 2008 (edited Mar 13, 2008)

Jodo Kast wrote:

It's the women, of course. I detest them and love them. They have the same feelings about me.

Women subconsciously despise men; sex is painful for them, yet, they are victims of their naturally sexual circuitry. They don't really want to have sex, but they're naturally compelled to, given the way their minds are wired; same deal with men, only difference is that sex is actually enjoyable for men.

Jodo Kast wrote:

DEATH is freedom from everything. But it is not something one can obtain.

Sometimes, I fear that I will live forever, and that my suffering (physical and emotional torment) will never end.

Jodo Kast wrote:

Do you know what really disturbs me? The fact that I'm attracted to women. Interestingly, I have actually met a woman that told me she was very disturbed that she found men attractive. If, somehow, I could remove this ancient biological hardwiring, which isn't nearly as necessary now as, say, 50,000 years ago, I could make more progress. This is a philosophical issue I wrangle with often. The sex drive is a very important part of humanity, but there is now legislation defining how we should behave in these regards. It would almost be like making laws about how often one may defecate and at what times of the day.

If you want to be stop attracted to women, and you want to get off of sex, just have a woman throw a knife at you, and you'll be done with them. Nothing kills the sex drive like seeing them that pissed off at you. It'd also help to learn how to catch thrown knives in mid-air.

Jodo Kast wrote:

The laws concerning sexual behavior do not affect me, but the fact they exist is of enormous interest. It makes me wonder what sort of new laws might come out. A law could be passed that makes it illegal for people with incomes under $75,000 per year to have sex. Another would only allow men over 40 to have sex, and only for the purpose of producing a child.

Love is an illusion; it's just a natural impulse that makes two people dispense with their pride enough to have sex with each other.

"Love" as most people know it is viewed as "Lust" by all formal ethical codes, such as religion; the desire to have sex with another human being is "Lust," and "Lust" is a sin.

In Biblical times, most couples didn't get to choose who they got married to; henceforth, they typically didn't have such passionate feelings for each other, and as such, only procreated for the sake of continuing the human race; people had a more detached stance regarding sex. It was necessary to tell a man that he had to care for his wife, because he was otherwise emotionally detached to her, just as you had to tell wife to serve her husband, because she was otherwise detached from him.

The whole purposes of being detached from your spouse was to refrain from sexual sin.

...

Aside from rape, I believe laws regarding sex also help stave off overpopulation. Honestly though, people should need a license in order to drink alcohol and have sex, and be formally educated in the use of these things; most messages these days are just public service announcements along the lines of "Drink and f--- responsibly, children!" And what entails responsible drinking and f---ing, pray tell?

Amazingu wrote:
Zorbfish wrote:

Do you know what really disturbs me? How you could make the leap from talking about a webcam to a rant on women and sexuality in a few sentences. Is it just me, or did I miss something? yikes

Dude, linking webcams to Women and Sexuality isn't that far a jump AT ALL. Seriously.
Don't make me connect the dots for you.

Homemade prono films?

avatar! wrote:

Somehow, I think that's more an educational video about how you shouldn't solicit prostitution.

Zane Mar 13, 2008

Bernhardt wrote:

Women subconsciously despise men; sex is painful for them, yet, they are victims of their naturally sexual circuitry. They don't really want to have sex, but they're naturally compelled to, given the way their minds are wired; same deal with men, only difference is that sex is actually enjoyable for men.

I am without words. Guh? Oog. Um. Women subconsciously despise men? Victims of sexual circuitry? Shit, man. All I have to say is you probably should have paid more attention in sex ed and you shouldn't categorize EVERY WOMAN IN THE WORLD into a statement like that. I'm XY, and I'm offended for women by your statement.

allyourbaseare Mar 13, 2008

Bernhardt wrote:

Love is an illusion; it's just a natural impulse that makes two people dispense with their pride enough to have sex with each other.

Now that's bull right there.  Love is when you give yourself to someone unconditionally.  It makes you do things for them that you wouldn't for anyone else.  There are different types of love, and I suspect the one you're talking of is more "lust" than anything.  In that case, let's not call it "love" and demean us all. 

I love my daughter.  She's two.  I would do anything for her.

I also love my wife, and come to find out, there are things that I continually find out about her that make me love her more.  (She now loves to play SSBB as Pikachu.  How freakin' adorable is that?) 

I'm reminded of this love whenever I come home from work and my daughter runs up and gives me a hug and screams "Daddy!";  when my wife, for no apparent reason, goes out and buys me a game because she knew I wanted it, or when we converse on such a deep level that we find out little nuances that we didn't know before about each other.  Love is a beautiful thing and certainly not the twisted form of which you speak of.  Love can be an illusion, but when people express it with such innocence and sincerity, you feel it, and know it's a real thing.

Zorbfish Mar 13, 2008

allyourbaseare wrote:

It is kind of a rough transition.

Exactly, I was just unsure of the tie-in to the rest of the post. Heh, I broke my own rule of ignoring these posts and look what happened.

Bernhardt Mar 13, 2008 (edited Mar 13, 2008)

Zane wrote:
Bernhardt wrote:

Women subconsciously despise men; sex is painful for them, yet, they are victims of their naturally sexual circuitry. They don't really want to have sex, but they're naturally compelled to, given the way their minds are wired; same deal with men, only difference is that sex is actually enjoyable for men.

I am without words. Guh? Oog. Um. Women subconsciously despise men? Victims of sexual circuitry? Shit, man. All I have to say is you probably should have paid more attention in sex ed and you shouldn't categorize EVERY WOMAN IN THE WORLD into a statement like that. I'm XY, and I'm offended for women by your statement.

You ought to meet, like, every last woman I've ever met.

The only exception there can be is that I probably live smack-dab in a lesbian colony, and don't even know it.

Don't mind me; I just feel like talking about how women hate me for no good reason, yet, that somehow makes me the one who is crazy.

Ramza Mar 13, 2008

Bernhardt wrote:
Zane wrote:
Bernhardt wrote:

Women subconsciously despise men; sex is painful for them, yet, they are victims of their naturally sexual circuitry. They don't really want to have sex, but they're naturally compelled to, given the way their minds are wired; same deal with men, only difference is that sex is actually enjoyable for men.

I am without words. Guh? Oog. Um. Women subconsciously despise men? Victims of sexual circuitry? Shit, man. All I have to say is you probably should have paid more attention in sex ed and you shouldn't categorize EVERY WOMAN IN THE WORLD into a statement like that. I'm XY, and I'm offended for women by your statement.

You ought to meet, like, every last woman I've ever met.

The only exception there can be is that I probably live smack-dab in a lesbian colony, and don't even know it.

"sex is painful for them" is the part I'm missing. Clearly you don't know that females have orgasms and like it...? I don't mean to give TMI, but I'm pretty sure my wife doesn't "fake it," k?

Ramza

Bernhardt Mar 13, 2008 (edited Mar 13, 2008)

Explain PMS then, and how any woman in existence, who's menstruating, practically wants her male partner dead when she's menstruating?

Ramza Mar 14, 2008

Bernhardt wrote:

Explain PMS then, and how any woman in existence, who's menstruating, practically wants her male partner dead when she's menstruating?

PMS makes women pissy at anyone and everyone, particularly those close to them. You don't think lesbian partners get in big-ass fights during that time of the month? Don't be dense, man.

Bernhardt Mar 14, 2008

Ramza wrote:
Bernhardt wrote:

Explain PMS then, and how any woman in existence, who's menstruating, practically wants her male partner dead when she's menstruating?

PMS makes women pissy at anyone and everyone, particularly those close to them.

Now, why do you suppose that is?

absuplendous Mar 14, 2008

Bernhardt wrote:

Now, why do you suppose that is?

I don't experience PMS, but I'm starting to feel a little pissy. Now, why do you suppose that is?

You made a sweeping generalization about women that's so wrong even the guys are calling bullshit. Instead of trying to qualify it I would just quit while you're behind.

Bernhardt Mar 14, 2008

Bah, nonsense! I've proven that sex is bullocks, and you just don't want to admit it! [/sarcasm]

Seriously now though, I got some good answers. Thanks.

JasonMalice Mar 16, 2008

XLord007 wrote:

You could just get yourself neutered, you know.  Also, there are already many drugs that turn off sex drive.  Many anti-depressants feature decreased libido as a side effect.

but still, i would find the female figure attractive, wouldnt i?  its not biologic.  some of it is psychologic, as well.  that is hard to undo.

longhairmike Mar 16, 2008

shit you guys.. youre all sounding like a bunch of late 30's recently divorced women.

<dumps a bag of dark chocolates on the floor and runs>

Bernhardt Mar 16, 2008 (edited Mar 16, 2008)

[Disregard Post]

I'd like to apologize for the stuff that *I* have been saying lately; I put my account on automatic logon, and my roommate's been having fun trying to make me look like an idiot.

Thank you for your understanding, and I apologize for any inconvenience.

Kirin Lemon Mar 17, 2008

Bernhardt wrote:

[Disregard Post]

I'd like to apologize for the stuff that *I* have been saying lately; I put my account on automatic logon, and my roommate's been having fun trying to make me look like an idiot.

Thank you for your understanding, and I apologize for any inconvenience.

Your "roommate" sure does know a lot about game music...  Suspicious!

Bernhardt Mar 17, 2008 (edited Mar 17, 2008)

Kirin Lemon wrote:
Bernhardt wrote:

[Disregard Post]

I'd like to apologize for the stuff that *I* have been saying lately; I put my account on automatic logon, and my roommate's been having fun trying to make me look like an idiot.

Thank you for your understanding, and I apologize for any inconvenience.

Your "roommate" sure does know a lot about game music...  Suspicious!

Actually, no, he doesn't, which you should be able to tell, from the unsubtantiated claims he made. He enjoys making fun of me.

Idolores Mar 17, 2008 (edited Mar 17, 2008)

Bernhardt wrote:
Kirin Lemon wrote:
Bernhardt wrote:

[Disregard Post]

I'd like to apologize for the stuff that *I* have been saying lately; I put my account on automatic logon, and my roommate's been having fun trying to make me look like an idiot.

Thank you for your understanding, and I apologize for any inconvenience.

Your "roommate" sure does know a lot about game music...  Suspicious!

Actually, no, he doesn't, which you should be able to tell, from the unsubtantiated claims he made. He enjoys making fun of me.

I was thinking that too. The claims "you" made about FFV being a game no one cares about seemed a bit much.

Zane Mar 17, 2008

Kirin Lemon wrote:
Bernhardt wrote:

[Disregard Post]

I'd like to apologize for the stuff that *I* have been saying lately; I put my account on automatic logon, and my roommate's been having fun trying to make me look like an idiot.

Thank you for your understanding, and I apologize for any inconvenience.

Your "roommate" sure does know a lot about game music...  Suspicious!

Didn't this happen with Zenning/Varius a year or two ago? How... bizarre.

Bernhardt Mar 18, 2008 (edited Mar 18, 2008)

Idolores wrote:
Bernhardt wrote:
Kirin Lemon wrote:

Your "roommate" sure does know a lot about game music...  Suspicious!

Actually, no, he doesn't, which you should be able to tell, from the unsubtantiated claims he made. He enjoys making fun of me.

I was thinking that too. The claims "you" made about FFV being a game no one cares about seemed a bit much.

I'll have you know I do actually like FFV and its soundtrack; I've been playing more games that are more minimalistic on plot, games that don't distract from the...ahem...gameplay?

Why, Final Fantasy V ~ Dear Friends is one of my most favorite arrange albums of all time, especially with respects to classical/instrumental works.

Zane wrote:
Kirin Lemon wrote:
Bernhardt wrote:

[Disregard Post]

I'd like to apologize for the stuff that *I* have been saying lately; I put my account on automatic logon, and my roommate's been having fun trying to make me look like an idiot.

Thank you for your understanding, and I apologize for any inconvenience.

Your "roommate" sure does know a lot about game music...  Suspicious!

Didn't this happen with Zenning/Varius a year or two ago? How... bizarre.

No kidding? Same person, same problem, different username. Maybe now you know why I like changing them so much? Change username, password, e-mail, etc. Especially considering that I have trouble disabling the automatic login feature after enabling it. Now I remember why I usually like to keep that turned "OFF."

Yeah, you'd think I would've moved out by now, or my roommate would move out, but that's where it gets complicated.

Nemo Mar 18, 2008

Zane wrote:
Kirin Lemon wrote:
Bernhardt wrote:

[Disregard Post]

I'd like to apologize for the stuff that *I* have been saying lately; I put my account on automatic logon, and my roommate's been having fun trying to make me look like an idiot.

Thank you for your understanding, and I apologize for any inconvenience.

Your "roommate" sure does know a lot about game music...  Suspicious!

Didn't this happen with Zenning/Varius a year or two ago? How... bizarre.

I was thinking the same thing.  I don't see how changing your username name is doing anything but making you seem weirder.

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