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Angela Nov 19, 2010

Can't believe we've finally made it up to this point: the last (well, next to last) entry in the Harry Potter movie series hits theaters.  Following in the footsteps of The Order of the Phoenix and The Half-Blood Prince, I figured it was time to make a thread for The Deathly Hallows.

-Official Trailer 1
-Official Trailer 2

Anybody seen it yet?  I'm in for an IMAX viewing over the weekend, so I'll have my thoughts up soon.  In the meantime, I'll be giving Alexandre Desplat's score a thorough listen today.  I'm hoping for good things on the music front.

Zealboy Nov 19, 2010

I really did not care for the 7th book.  I couldn't even remember why... until I saw the movie.  It's just so darned plodding...  I feel like every aspect of the plot involves jumping from one crucial moment to another... with lots of interjected parts that are about absolutely nothing happening at all.  But in the end, not much seems to really develop.  It just plods from one point to the next.  I completely blame the book for the overall similar feeling I had during the movie.
The story about the deathly hallows themselves is very nicely done in the movie though.

Amazingu Nov 21, 2010

Zealboy wrote:

I really did not care for the 7th book.  I couldn't even remember why... until I saw the movie.  It's just so darned plodding...  I feel like every aspect of the plot involves jumping from one crucial moment to another... with lots of interjected parts that are about absolutely nothing happening at all.  But in the end, not much seems to really develop.  It just plods from one point to the next.  I completely blame the book for the overall similar feeling I had during the movie.
The story about the deathly hallows themselves is very nicely done in the movie though.

I read this post before going to see it myself yesterday, and I thought it sounded a bit negative, but now that I have seen it myself, I agree 100%.

It is incredibly plodding.
The opening is action-packed and there are definitely some cool moments, but halfway through, the movie just comes to a stand-still without any significant development whatsoever. Plodding describes it perfectly.
And I also agree that this is not so much the movie or the director's fault, as it is simply a matter of the original book being like that in the first place.
They chose a good moment the end part 1 on, though, nicely ominous.

It looks great though, there are some lovely environments, and as you said, one of the absolute highlights of the movie was the story of the Deathly Hallows itself, which is wonderfully visualized.

I look forward to the sequel, but I don't think this one bears repeated watching.

Sami Nov 21, 2010

Action schmaction! You'll get all your whiz-bang in Part 2. I think Part 1 is a great opening for the saga finale with its deliberate pacing. It's handled better than in the book, actually. The Half-Blood Prince film could have done with a similar pacing. After that, I was worried for this, but Part 1 has given new reason to look forward to the finishing episode.

Schala Nov 23, 2010

I think the best way to describe the movie for me is: I sure didn't feel the 2.5 hours.

XLord007 Nov 26, 2010

I thought it was decent.  Not as good as what Yates did with Book 6, but FAR better than the crap he turned in with Book 5.  This movie finally had the despair that was missing from the film adaptation of the fifth book (something I'm not likely to forgive any time soon).  It moved slowly and despite being exposition heavy, still completely skips over the Dumbledore-Gridenwald relationship.  More than any of the previous films, I really felt someone who hadn't read the books wouldn't have a clue as to what was going on here.  That said, I still enjoyed it, especially with Desplat taking over the music from Hooper.  I also appreciate how directly the film compares the new Ministry of Magic to Nazi Germany and the shades of Terry Gilliam's Brazil seen in the bureaucracy within.

Angela Apr 3, 2011

For those who don't mind being spoiled on Part 2, The Leaky Cauldron.org has a full report on the working cut of the full film that was test screened in Chicago this weekend.  Check it out here, but again be forewarned, it pretty much spoils the ENTIRE movie.

It sounds promising.  With the final battle taking up a good chunk of the near two hour cut, it looks like they're going to be putting their all into it.  It's great to hear that Alan Rickman and Maggie Smith will feature prominently, and it's especially pleasing that the ....... "The Prince's Tale" chapter is being handled with the utmost care, even going so far as to say that it's one of the best moments in the entire series.

Adam Corn Apr 28, 2011

I'm not a fan but that's one of the most wowsome trailers I've seen in a long time.  Might actually re-watch the earlier films for the first time (maybe not 1 & 2, not sure if I could stomach them again) to lead up to it.

Angela Jul 8, 2011 (edited Jul 12, 2011)

Seeing as how The Deathly Hallows Part 2 is essentially the other half of a single entity, I thought it best to continue discussion on the upcoming film in this thread, rather than take it to a whole new one.  (EDIT: Thanks for the subject header change, Adam!)

After the world premiere in London yesterday, it looks like the movie is off to an extremely promising start with the critics.  Says Todd McCarthy: "Fully justifying the decision, once thought purely mercenary, of splitting J.K. Rowling's final book into two parts, [Part 2] is an exciting and, to put it mildly, massively eventful finale that will grip and greatly please anyone who has been at all a fan of the series up to now. If ever there was a sure thing commercially, this stout farewell is it." 

Other reviewers have gone on to state that the movie even manages to make up for the book's inherent shortcomings, bringing more cohesiveness to the big battle and emotional parts of the narrative.

Zealboy Jul 10, 2011

XLord007 wrote:

Have they said if it includes the epilogue?

Oh I sure hope not!

Smeg Jul 10, 2011

XLord007 wrote:

Have they said if it includes the epilogue?

They keep waffling about it. It's filmed and will be on the DVD, but whether it's in the theatrical cut depends on who you ask and what day you ask them.

Angela Jul 10, 2011

It'll be in the theatrical cut.  The reviews have stated as much.

The bigger question is how well they pulled off the effects necessary to make it work.

Wanderer Jul 10, 2011

Angela wrote:

It'll be in the theatrical cut.  The reviews have stated as much.

The bigger question is how well they pulled off the effects necessary to make it work.

I've read the makeup is pretty bad. I'm sure the rest of the movie will make up for that segment. I've listened to the soundtrack and it's good, albeit with more RC influences than the last score.

Angela Jul 10, 2011

Wanderer wrote:

I've listened to the soundtrack and it's good, albeit with more RC influences than the last score.

Yeah, Desplat's score for Part 2 is quite excellent.  It's still steeped in the dark undertones the series needs at this point, but I think this is the first time since Doyle's Goblet of Fire where there's a palpable sense of fantasy adventure to the sound.  Beyond that, I'm pleased that Desplat opted to integrate Hedwig's theme far more than he did in Part 1.  I've counted nine reprisals on the soundtrack release alone, and though they're subtle by nature, that's about twice as many as any of the post-Azkaban scores tried to muster.

RC influences?  I kind of get that sense because of the more bombastic nature of the score, but the only song that brings RC to my mind is "Statues."

Wanderer Jul 10, 2011

RC influences?  I kind of get that sense because of the more bombastic nature of the score, but the only song that brings RC to my mind is "Statues."

Much of the Hogwarts battle material sounds less like Desplat to me and more like an RC composer. "Statues", obviously but also "Courtyard Apocalypse." "In the Chamber Secrets" has that familiar string chuggling line (first really heard in "Batman Begins") that's omnipresent in blockbuster films these days but the latter half very clearly moves away from it. Also, the last forty seconds of "Showdown" is very clearly in the "things exploding, slo-mo" RC sound. Reminded me a little of Beckett's death, actually.

Wanderer Jul 15, 2011

Caught the 3 AM showing this morning! Good movie, probably my 2nd favorite in the series (but PoA still wins overall). The middle is easily the best part as the first twenty minutes is riddled with exposition and the big climax deviates heavily from the book, making everything bigger and grander. And yet, it still comes across as anti-climatic.

Unfortunately, Desplat's score is treated somewhat badly in the movie. Crucial cues are either chopped in half ("The Resurrection Stone") or dropped entirely ("Harry's Sacrifice"). Others are buried under sound effects. The music does get a chance to shine during the dragon flight and "Courtyard Apocalypse" also made an impression.

Angela Jul 15, 2011

A midnight showing was my original intent, but I needed to bump it to the weekend due to my back condition.  But from home base, I've been following all the impressions, reviews, and box office tracking like a hawk -- and I'm positively gobsmacked at how well the movie is faring.  It's pretty insane.

Wanderer wrote:

Unfortunately, Desplat's score is treated somewhat badly in the movie.

Is there truth to them using Williams' original "Leaving Hogwarts" and "Hedwig's Theme" from The Sorcerer's Stone for the epilogue and end credits respectively?

XLord007 Jul 15, 2011

Saw it tonight.  The super high metacritic rating is undeserved, to say the least.  The acting is fantastic, but that's really all it has going for it.  The pacing is wildly uneven with some scenes dragging on forever and other scenes feeling way too quick.  The worst part is that the movie has this strange anticlimactic feeling throughout.  This is the big climax, so why doesn't it feel climactic?

Wanderer Jul 16, 2011

Is there truth to them using Williams' original "Leaving Hogwarts" and "Hedwig's Theme" from The Sorcerer's Stone for the epilogue and end credits respectively?

Yup. "Leaving Hogwarts" actually does a good job of making that scene tolerable (but like most people, I hated the epilogue from the book). "Hedwig's Theme" starts the end credits and then it goes through a bunch of Desplat's cues.

I'm not surprised the movie is doing well. I got to the theater just when the 14 midnight showings were letting out and the ensuing stampede vividly reminded me of the scene from Titanic when the rushing water is raging down the hallways.

Amazingu Jul 16, 2011

Just came back from the theaters, watched the whole thing in IMAX 3D whathaveyou, and I have to say, I am immensely pleased with it.

I didn't feel it dragged for a single second. Sure there are some slower scenes, but they're appropriately paced given the circumstances. I was on the edge of my seat the whole time.

I am also very satisfied with the radically changed ending.
The book's ending was incredibly disappointing and anti-climactic (if you think this movie is anti-climactic you probably haven't read the books), and the changes made here make for a much more satisfying (dare I say, sensical?) conclusion to the saga.

If movie-going wasn't so stupidly expensive in this country I'd probably go again.

As a side note: they're showing Prisoner of Azkaban on TV right now, and the contrast is striking.
The older movies, the first 3 to be precise, are decidly more playful and...childish?...if you look at the later ones.
Pointless things like Harry blowing up his aunt and the bus for stray wizards seem almost uncharacteristically light-hearted for the series if you consider how it all ends.

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