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Dais Sep 13, 2006 (edited Sep 13, 2006)

I apologize if this topic is kind of disjointed...it's rather late right now as I write this, and my communication skills have been detiorating recently, too....anyway...

See, there's this song, right? This awesome, epic tune that I've heard in trailers for Ys VI PS2. I always figured it was one of the songs added for the PS2 release's extra stuff (that whole "the music is being replaced! wait, no it's not!" thing aside). But now, going through both the recordings from Crevia's Trials or whatever....I hear <i>parts</i> of the song, but not the whole thing.

The thing is, though.....I, uh, haven't played the game. Any version. I've certainly enjoyed the music (both the original soundtrack and the new PS2 additions), but I wouldn't have the slightest clue if it came from one of the new cinematics or something like. So I'm kind of relying on you nice people who have probably listened to the music inside and out a hundred times and played the game to death in all it's versions (well, maybe not the PSP port).

Unfortunately, at the moment, the only trailer I currently can find with the music is a rather short one for the PSP version:

http://www.gametrailers.com/gamepage.php?fs=1&id=705

The "TGS 2K4 PSP Trailer" has a snippet of the music I'm talking about.

I swear there was a longer (and nicer) trailer featuring the music for the PS2 version, but I can't really find it anywhere right now, and I haven't a clue where I got it in the first place.

The reason I'm even bothering to make a topic is because that one heroic swell in the music makes me feel the need for a game that's big, one about a legendary adventure. It sort of says to me....

"Imagine if there was a serious, quality Ys game with the epic scope of the most famous J-RPGS. Wouldn't that be mindblowing?"

It kind of stirs something in my gaming soul, so to speak.

discoalucard Sep 13, 2006

Dais, are you referring to the one I posted in my HG101 Ys article? I think that's what it sounds like.

I recorded it from the trailer that was included with a demo disc Konami was giving out if you preordered MGS3 way back when.

Dais Sep 13, 2006

discoalucard wrote:

Dais, are you referring to the one I posted in my HG101 Ys article? I think that's what it sounds like.

I recorded it from the trailer that was included with a demo disc Konami was giving out if you preordered MGS3 way back when.

Oh, hey! Yeah, that's it, definitely! Thanks a lot!

(For anyone who is browsing by this post and doesn't have a Fileplanet account, you might use Putfile to listen to it or Sendspace to download it)

It may be a bit "movie-ish", but I really like. Like I said, it stirs up images of epic journeys and stuff.

Now that I poke around on the internet a bit....I have to wonder who it was composed by. Presumably the same person who did the Crevia's Trials music, right? And that is presumably Hiroyuki Namba (or is Nanba? stupid internet :( ), at least according to previews like this.

And of course, that's the way the recording of the new PS2 music is labeled..

Yet, checking the PS2 credits at both GameFAQs and Mobygames, there's no mention of his name....or JDK. Odd. I wonder if that's an error/omission on the part of the people who transcribed the credits (possibly a limitation of the site - for example, GameFAQs doesn't want "Special Thanks" credits) or the people who created the original credits listing.

(I didn't realize the port was a Chinese effort, either...interesting.

Um, anyways. Thanks!

Cyrus Sep 16, 2006

It´s not entirely on topic, but maybe anybody can help me with my problem:

Yesterday I got the PAL version of Ys The Ark of Napishtim (PS2) and browsing through the credits in the gaming manual I noticed something weird. No mention of Falcom Sound Team, instead there´s an obscure "Hawaii Audio Team" (composer names: Lisle Moore, Brady Ellis, Tino Salki, James Guymon, Kurt Bestor, John Hancock, Chuck E. Myers). I know that there was the intention to replace the famous Falcom OST with alternative music for the western release - US fans were protesting against the change and the soundtrack remained untouched.

Now I feel kinda pissed, the music was one of the primary aspects for me buying the game. Unfortunately no european reviewer ever refered to the possible change, there seems to be no information on the internet either. Now I´d like to know if the music of the PAL version really has been altered. I can´t check for myself, because I don´t own a PS2 yet (it should arrive next week). If the game doesn´t feature the original soundtrack (which I mean literally), I´ll have to get rid of it and buy the US version.

Maybe there are PAL gamers (or other Falcom fans) who can clear this up? Thanks in advance.

SonicPanda Sep 17, 2006

Cyrus wrote:

It´s not entirely on topic, but maybe anybody can help me with my problem:

Yesterday I got the PAL version of Ys The Ark of Napishtim (PS2) and browsing through the credits in the gaming manual I noticed something weird. No mention of Falcom Sound Team, instead there´s an obscure "Hawaii Audio Team" (composer names: Lisle Moore, Brady Ellis, Tino Salki, James Guymon, Kurt Bestor, John Hancock, Chuck E. Myers). I know that there was the intention to replace the famous Falcom OST with alternative music for the western release - US fans were protesting against the change and the soundtrack remained untouched.

Now I feel kinda pissed, the music was one of the primary aspects for me buying the game. Unfortunately no european reviewer ever refered to the possible change, there seems to be no information on the internet either. Now I´d like to know if the music of the PAL version really has been altered. I can´t check for myself, because I don´t own a PS2 yet (it should arrive next week). If the game doesn´t feature the original soundtrack (which I mean literally), I´ll have to get rid of it and buy the US version.

Maybe there are PAL gamers (or other Falcom fans) who can clear this up? Thanks in advance.

From what I understand, Nanba had written all-new boomy orchestral stuff for the game proper (and it was what played in the original PS2 demo) but after the protests they limited his contributions to the extra dungeon they added. That's what I heard, anyway.

Cyrus Sep 17, 2006

Yeah, that´s what I´ve heard as well, but what´s the deal with "Hawaii Audio Team" and those 7 (!) english-named composers?

myaje Sep 17, 2006

I only lightly skimmd this thread, so I may be saying stuff that has already been touched upon.

From what I know, the PS2 game has an all new soundtrack, as well as the inclusion of the cg cinemas that replaced the anime ones, although by entering a code you can start a new game that has the anime cinemas and the Japanese voice overs.

The PSP game is more of a direct port of the original PC game, as it has the anime cinemas, and the in game characters and enemies are sprite based, rather than polygonal as the are in the PS2 game.

Unfortunately, I can't give you much input regarding the music, as to whether it matches the PS2 game or not, as the lengthy load time in the PSP game kinda blew it for me and I shelved it after a few hours of play.  hmm

And I really like the soundtrack for the PS2 game, but I don't think there is a cd available for it.  I'll have to look and see if anyone has ripped it.

PeteV Sep 17, 2006

Cyrus wrote:

Yeah, that´s what I´ve heard as well, but what´s the deal with "Hawaii Audio Team" and those 7 (!) english-named composers?

Hiroyuki Nanba didn't write anything for the game.  He just wrote one or two arrangements for a Japanese promotional disc.  The seven Hawaii composers did all the new (orchestral) music for the game, which was only used for an optional sidequest (Trials of Alma or something).  The original music from the PC game is intact in the PS2 version.  The original PC development team was not listed on the credits; that's why you didn't see Falcom Sound Team jdk.

Dais Sep 17, 2006

myaje wrote:

And I really like the soundtrack for the PS2 game, but I don't think there is a cd available for it.  I'll have to look and see if anyone has ripped it.

Well, for the regular music, there's always the official OST, heh. But if you're talking specifically about the Alma's Trials music, here's a nice (if mislabeled, according to PeteV) rip by Kostaki, hosted on Sendspace:

Ys VI Ark of Napishtim - Original Orchestrated Score.zip (76mb)

(You might also be interested in checking the Special Sound CD, which contains some nice/strange arrangements)

Anyway, it just occurred to me - this is a fairly recent game, and Konami is a high profile company. I'm going to to go snoop around for a few email addresses and send out some questions, so maybe we can get a definitive answer to all the angles of this situation.

McCall Sep 17, 2006 (edited Sep 10, 2012)

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James O Sep 17, 2006

I've been wanting to hear the stuff on the Special Sound CD.... anyone have stuff from it they can put up somewhere???

myaje Sep 17, 2006

That clears alot up for me, and thank you Dias for posting the link to that rip!  smile

I too will have to look around for that Special Sound cd.

Now for another question: is the Ys VI cd included in the Falcom Special Box 2004 different from the stand alone Ys VI OST?

Qui-Gon Joe Sep 18, 2006

myaje wrote:

Now for another question: is the Ys VI cd included in the Falcom Special Box 2004 different from the stand alone Ys VI OST?

As far as I know, the only difference is cosmetic.  The FSB version has full color disc art, though it (very annoyingly) lacks a back insert.  The regular retail version has single color stuff on the discs but has a back insert.  I really hate it when there's just empty plastic on the side of my CDs on the shelf.  >_<

Cyrus Sep 18, 2006 (edited Sep 18, 2006)

PeteV wrote:
Cyrus wrote:

Yeah, that´s what I´ve heard as well, but what´s the deal with "Hawaii Audio Team" and those 7 (!) english-named composers?

Hiroyuki Nanba didn't write anything for the game.  He just wrote one or two arrangements for a Japanese promotional disc.  The seven Hawaii composers did all the new (orchestral) music for the game, which was only used for an optional sidequest (Trials of Alma or something).  The original music from the PC game is intact in the PS2 version.  The original PC development team was not listed on the credits; that's why you didn't see Falcom Sound Team jdk.

This is what I wanted to hear. Thx a lot.

Btw, do you actually have the PAL game?

Cyrus Sep 29, 2006

Ok, PS2 has arrived - didn´t play too far, but music seems to be intact (Quatery Woods, Yay!).

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