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Adam Corn Oct 22, 2013

This is old news it seems but I'm just now finding out about it.  Apparently Jump Magazine has reported that the PS3/Vita remake Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster will have about 60 new arrangements by Masashi Hamauzu.

http://www.siliconera.com/2013/08/01/fi … i-hamauzu/

I'm not a huge fan of FFX OST myself but still I'll be very curious to hear how Hamauzu arranges the material.

James O Oct 22, 2013

There will be a blu-ray release of the FFX HD Remaster Soundtrack released Dec 25.  still hasn't popped up yet for pre-order.  Also the FFX-2 OST gets a reprint with some bonus tracks and expanded liner notes (and no copy control this time since it's published by Square Enix).

Ashley Winchester Oct 23, 2013

This is a little off topic but am I the only one that wishes they'd give us a release date for the actual game already? All the advertisements say 2013... but I'd like an release date.

Amazingu Nov 6, 2013

Zane wrote:

Pretty sure this is legit, as it basically sounds like a Sigma Harmonics-era Hamauzu arrangement of Besaid Island:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Drw1dfxPaq0

Ooooooh, REALLY digging this one.
I loves me some Sigma Harmonics-era Hamauzu (probably my favorite Hamauzu flavor) and this sounds right up my alley.
My anticipation for this game just shot through the roof!

Razakin Nov 7, 2013

Damn that Besaid Island arrangement is good. Makes me want to buy that bluray of the HD remastered soundtrack. Too bad that won't get regular cd-release though.

TerraEpon Jan 2, 2014

There's been a lot of complaints about this from FFX fans. I haven't listened to almost any of it yet, anyone here have thoughts?

Ashley Winchester Jan 2, 2014

TerraEpon wrote:

There's been a lot of complaints about this from FFX fans. I haven't listened to almost any of it yet, anyone here have thoughts?

You know, I didn't want to take the wind out of anyone sails but am I the only one that doesn't see the point of changing any of the music in this game? I'm trying to not act like an ass about it but I was fine with the game just being a straight HD remaster with the International extras added on. Considering how long this is game was rumored to be in development (eons) and then how ALL the advertisements said 2013 until the REAL released date dropped I'd don't know why I even still want the thing.

Zane Jan 2, 2014

Ashley Winchester wrote:
TerraEpon wrote:

There's been a lot of complaints about this from FFX fans. I haven't listened to almost any of it yet, anyone here have thoughts?

You know, I didn't want to take the wind out of anyone sails but am I the only one that doesn't see the point of changing any of the music in this game? I'm trying to not act like an ass about it but I was fine with the game just being a straight HD remaster with the International extras added on. Considering how long this is game was rumored to be in development (eons) and then how ALL the advertisements said 2013 until the REAL released date dropped I'd don't know why I even still want the thing.

I've been interested in the remaster OST mostly from a curiosity standpoint, and have been posting what I've found since I figured some other people wanted to keep up with it, but I have similar feelings overall. So far everything I have heard has either been "Damn, this song is pretty cool (from a novelty perspective)!", like the Besaid Island remix, or "This song doesn't seem necessary/isn't as enjoyable to me as the original". After hearing FFX's music for upwards of 13 years, it's hard for me to hear new arrangements that are so structurally close to the original. The old OST is in my blood at this point.

Ashley Winchester Jan 2, 2014

Zane wrote:

The old OST is in my blood at this point.

Definitely. While I'm not too big on FFX's soundtrack I'm pretty accustomed to the way my favorite tracks sound.

James O Jan 3, 2014

i hope this doesn't turn into another Seiken Densetsu 2 rearrange.  I have to wait longer for my copy to come in because customs goofed on the value of the package.  they forgot to move the decimal point.  my package of stuff from japan did not have a value of over 10 grand!  morons.

Amazingu Jan 3, 2014

Playing through the game now (not very far yet) and most of the arrangements don't do much for me (I was never a huge fan of the original OST though), but I do quite like the new Besaid theme.

Alcahest Jan 3, 2014 (edited Jan 3, 2014)

protip1: have your original FFX OST not far when listening to this one as certain tracks have been altered so much (in a less than desirable way imho) that you'll crave listening to the real deal asap. ^^;

protip2: the bd extra > update is taking _ages_, you may want to check/listen to the disc before updating..

All in all I *much* prefer the original tracks, although you'd expect a better choice of instruments and new twists in the melodies in this bd, most of the new arrangements sound like early/alpha versions to me; less elaborate instruments selection and mixing. I must say I'm a die-hard fan of the original OST so I'm curious if someone who's not can actually forget the source material and enjoy this..

Not a waste of time but quite.. unnecessary for the most part.

GoldfishX Jan 3, 2014

Alcahest wrote:

Not a waste of time but quite.. unnecessary for the most part.

This. I'm okay with sticking with the originals, from what I've heard so far.

James O Jan 22, 2014

regardless of the naysayers - i enjoy it!  and that's all that matters

Zane Jan 22, 2014

TerraEpon wrote:
Zane wrote:

The "full" OST has been ripped from the game and uploaded to Youtube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYIa-H6fpTg

From the game, or from the BR?

The YT author says he/she ripped from the game.

Amazingu Jan 22, 2014

James O wrote:

regardless of the naysayers - i enjoy it!  and that's all that matters

I'm near the end of the game so I've heard most of the arrangements, and although there's a lot of stinkers, there's some really good ones too (mainly the Hamauzu stuff), so yeah I'm in the "like" camp as well.

Adam Corn Jan 22, 2014

Amazingu wrote:

I've heard most of the arrangements, and although there's a lot of stinkers, there's some really good ones too (mainly the Hamauzu stuff)

Is that as in the Hamauzu arrangements or the arrangements of Hamauzu's compositions?  Did he do all the arranging for the redone pieces or was it a collaborative effort?

Amazingu Jan 22, 2014

Adam Corn wrote:
Amazingu wrote:

I've heard most of the arrangements, and although there's a lot of stinkers, there's some really good ones too (mainly the Hamauzu stuff)

Is that as in the Hamauzu arrangements or the arrangements of Hamauzu's compositions?  Did he do all the arranging for the redone pieces or was it a collaborative effort?

Ah, I guess I should have been clearer about that: I meant the arrangements of Hamauzu's compositions.
I don't actually know who arranged what.

the_miker Jan 23, 2014

There's a complete composer/arranger breakdown in the OST booklet. I posted all that info on the VGMdb album page a while back:

http://vgmdb.net/album/42208

Adam Corn Jan 23, 2014

Yeah I did peruse the VGMdb notes (props for posting those) but when you see for example "Composer: Nobuo Uematsu / Arranger: Junya Nakano", that's crediting Nakano's arrangement in the original OST, right?  Just curious if there's any clear information about credits for the new arrangements.

Also, looking at the VGMdb thread I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks these Blu-ray releases are a stupid idea.

GoldfishX Jan 23, 2014

Adam Corn wrote:

Also, looking at the VGMdb thread I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks these Blu-ray releases are a stupid idea.

*raises hand*

I'm still confused how you're supposed to read the disc. Do you just extract files?

James O Jan 23, 2014

if you have a blu-ray drive you can copy over 320 kbps mp3 files from the disc to your computer.  or you can transfer them to your ps3's hard drive i think and then from there you can transfer to your computer.

LiquidAcid Jan 23, 2014 (edited Jan 23, 2014)

Or you just play them with MakeMKV and any media player that supports HTTP streams.

TerraEpon Jan 23, 2014

It's a standard Blu-Ray disc, playable in any BR player, otherwise.

I don't think they are a bad idea, but they are kinda annoying as the ONLY release. Plus the actual audio advantage of BR isn't there, as the tracks are still actually CD quality despite being at higher resolution.

Amazingu Jan 23, 2014

the_miker wrote:

There's a complete composer/arranger breakdown in the OST booklet. I posted all that info on the VGMdb album page a while back:

http://vgmdb.net/album/42208

Thanks for that.

So it turns out I like the arrangements by Hamauzu most as well.

I guess I can safely say I like Hamauzu, which is not news to me.

XLord007 Jan 24, 2014

TerraEpon wrote:

I don't think they are a bad idea, but they are kinda annoying as the ONLY release. Plus the actual audio advantage of BR isn't there, as the tracks are still actually CD quality despite being at higher resolution.

Agreed. I would have been happy to give Squenix my money for a remastered CD set, but the BRD is useless to me.

Angela Feb 23, 2014

Gave this a listen recently, and I'm not digging it as much as I thought I would.  Someone from Neogaf made a post that perfectly encapsulates my own thoughts on the new remaster:

"A lot of the new instrumentation trades the unique, evocative pure artifice of the PS2 sound set for a more literal, but now generically synthetic sound, which makes some of the tracks sound like limp, plastic mock-ups.

Live recording, and higher fidelity synthesis, isn't inherently superior to whatever came before. It all depends on what the particular piece demands, whether previously electronic parts are translated idiomatically to live performance, and how much the originally created version's textures defined the music's charm and ambiance. A few of the changes here are subtle, and amount to improvements to stereo depth and mix clarity, which is nice, but where instrumentation has actually been changed, I'm finding the results pretty rough."

It's downright criminal what they did to "Enemy Attack."

Ashley Winchester Apr 5, 2014

Angela wrote:

It's downright criminal what they did to "Enemy Attack."

I just heard "Normal Battle" and yeah... the remixed music is on my bad side.

"Normal Battle" isn't even that great but damn the original PS2 synth gave it a lot of character.

Wanderer Apr 5, 2014

In fairness, it all works pretty well in the context of the game. Before playing it, I hated the new Besaid Island but with the improved graphics and resolution, it really fits the game better than the old one probably would. It's weird.

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