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Wanderer Jun 30, 2011

They might as well have just said, "Thanks for your passion but f--- you!"

Yeesh.

Adam Corn Jun 30, 2011

rein wrote:

And here's the predictable response:

Thank you for your enthusiasm. We promised an update, so here it is. We never say “never,” but we can confirm that there are no plans to bring these three games to the Americas at this time. Thanks so much for your passion, and for being such great fans!

Wow did somebody actually get paid to write that, because it's got to be one of the worst official corporate responses ever.  I don't care whether the game makes it over or not myself but it's almost like they're trying to be snide on purpose.

Kenology Jun 30, 2011

I wonder how feasible and/or effective it would to bypass NoA altogether and just bug the hell out of NCL instead.

Boco Jun 30, 2011

This is why Wii can't have nice things.

In all seriousness though... this really, really sucks. So disappointed. sad

Sami Jun 30, 2011

Nintendo of America really are idiots. How can they be worse than Sony when they were at the top?

Tim JC Jul 6, 2011

I pre-ordered an import, although I have no means of playing it at this time. I am obsessed.

Amazingu Jul 6, 2011

Tim JC wrote:

I pre-ordered an import, although I have no means of playing it at this time. I am obsessed.

I pre-ordered it too, and I have every intention of playing through again smile

Tim JC Jul 6, 2011

Amazingu wrote:
Tim JC wrote:

I pre-ordered an import, although I have no means of playing it at this time. I am obsessed.

I pre-ordered it too, and I have every intention of playing through again smile

Will this be your third run? I don't know if I'll have time to play through it twice before the other big games hit this year, but I figure this will be a game I'll want to keep returning to. I feel really drawn to the world they've created just from reading producer interviews and fan reviews, and of course checking out videos.

XLord007 Jul 6, 2011

I'm kind of curious as to why Pandora's Tower keeps getting grouped in with Xenoblade and The Last Story.  The two RPGs actually look pretty decent, but Pandora's Tower looks like any other mediocre Japanese action game.  Just because Nintendo published it in Japan doesn't mean it's good (note that the overly generous Famitsu only gave this a 7/7/9/8 compared to 9/9/9/9 for Xenoblade and 10/10/9/9 for The Last Story).

Idolores Jul 6, 2011

XLord007 wrote:

I'm kind of curious as to why Pandora's Tower keeps getting grouped in with Xenoblade and The Last Story.  The two RPGs actually look pretty decent, but Pandora's Tower looks like any other mediocre Japanese action game.  Just because Nintendo published it in Japan doesn't mean it's good (note that the overly generous Famitsu only gave this a 7/7/9/8 compared to 9/9/9/9 for Xenoblade and 10/10/9/9 for The Last Story).

Review scores from Famitsu (or anyone else, for that matter) mean shit all to me. A 9/9/9/9 for Xenoblade by their standards means it's about as good as Nintendogs as far as I'm concerned.

Pandora's Tower has some killer art, regardless. Gameplay doesn't look bad, I really dig the aesthetic. I like the black case it comes in, too.

Amazingu Jul 7, 2011

Tim JC wrote:

Will this be your third run?

Yep. Although I didn't completely finish my second run but stopped right before the final boss.
I suppose that counts as 2 though.

XLord007 wrote:

I'm kind of curious as to why Pandora's Tower keeps getting grouped in with Xenoblade and The Last Story.  The two RPGs actually look pretty decent, but Pandora's Tower looks like any other mediocre Japanese action game.  Just because Nintendo published it in Japan doesn't mean it's good (note that the overly generous Famitsu only gave this a 7/7/9/8 compared to 9/9/9/9 for Xenoblade and 10/10/9/9 for The Last Story).

That's what worries me about this Operation Rainfall.
They're asking for games of which they don't even know if they're any good.
I mean, word of mouth on Xenoblade is pretty much what started this whole thing off, so that's fine, but The Last Story is boring as hell, I can vouch for that, and not that many people actually like it (if I go by the comments on other forums).
Pandora's Tower I can't comment on, but there's a good chance it's not that special either.

So let's say these games DO come over to the US and get abysmal reviews (not Xenoblade of course), leading to poor sales, what kind of message is THAT going to send to Nintendo!?

XLord007 Jul 7, 2011 (edited Jul 7, 2011)

Amazingu wrote:

So let's say these games DO come over to the US and get abysmal reviews (not Xenoblade of course), leading to poor sales, what kind of message is THAT going to send to Nintendo!?

I would say that these games would get abysmal sales in the U.S. regardless of how good they or their reveiws are.  Outside of the vocal minority that's screaming for them, I doubt the larger market cares.  Before you bring up the Amazon experiment with Monado pre-orders, let's keep in mind that Amazon's charts are best-selling in the last hour.  Who cares what sold in the last hour?  That's a meaningless metric if I've ever seen one.  That said, I still think it's nonsense for Nintendo not to bring over Xenoblade or any other title that already has it localization costs being covered by Nintendo of Europe's budget.  Hell, if I was Nintendo of America, I'd say that we're going to make a limited edition U.S. print-run of Xenoblade of around 20,000 copies and charge $100 a copy, available only from Nintendo's online store that comes with some silly premium item. Other than a press release, I'd do no other marketing and let word of mouth take care of the rest.  If it goes viral and retailers start asking for it, then I'd print up a bunch more w/o the premium item and set the MSRP at $60.

Amazingu Jul 7, 2011

XLord007 wrote:

I would say that these games would get abysmal sales in the U.S. regardless of how good they or their reveiws are.  Outside of the vocal minority that's screaming for them, I doubt the larger market cares.

Oh, none of them would sell millions, obviously, but Xenoblade has the potential to sell between 200 and 300K, I think, if properly marketed (big if), considering it and TLS sold between 150 and 200K in Japan alone.

Anyway, Operation Rainfall has a new update which is very interesting:

http://oprainfall.blogspot.com/

I wonder if that's really true...

xplojin. Jul 8, 2011 (edited Jul 8, 2011)

how well or poorly did arc rise fantasia rate on the wii? im guessing not to well? worst game to base interest in JRPGs on the wii, if u askd me.

u know whats goin to happen, if xenoblade is released in the u.s., is that we'll get charged a premium for it, because then they'll know there are people will pay a nice 60 bucks for it. im sure it'll be worth it, I dont doubt that, but still, thats some scheming on their part.

Amazingu Jul 9, 2011

xplojin. wrote:

how well or poorly did arc rise fantasia rate on the wii? im guessing not to well? worst game to base interest in JRPGs on the wii, if u askd me.

u know whats goin to happen, if xenoblade is released in the u.s., is that we'll get charged a premium for it, because then they'll know there are people will pay a nice 60 bucks for it. im sure it'll be worth it, I dont doubt that, but still, thats some scheming on their part.

I have no idea about Arc Rise Fantasia, and I haven't played it, but from what I hear it's a pretty good game, if you can get over the awful English dub, apparently.

I don't see what's wrong with asking 60 bucks for a game like Xenoblade.

XLord007 Jul 10, 2011

Amazingu wrote:

if properly marketed (big if)

Well said, but I have no idea what that would entail.  I mean, Nintendo put some marketing muscle behind DQ9, and while it certianly did respectably, it didn't exactly light a fire either.

xplojin. Jul 15, 2011 (edited Jul 15, 2011)

Amazingu wrote:
xplojin. wrote:

how well or poorly did arc rise fantasia rate on the wii? im guessing not to well? worst game to base interest in JRPGs on the wii, if u askd me.

u know whats goin to happen, if xenoblade is released in the u.s., is that we'll get charged a premium for it, because then they'll know there are people will pay a nice 60 bucks for it. im sure it'll be worth it, I dont doubt that, but still, thats some scheming on their part.

I have no idea about Arc Rise Fantasia, and I haven't played it, but from what I hear it's a pretty good game, if you can get over the awful English dub, apparently.

I actuly have it, it's very similar to a Tales series rpg, and even more incredibly cliche than usual. still a decent game, but not a must-have. and yes, terrible english dub is terrible

Amazingu wrote:

I don't see what's wrong with asking 60 bucks for a game like Xenoblade.

other than that nintendo ought to be considered a scalper for it. still incredibly excited for the possiblity of it actualy getting relased in NA, tho. prolly stil pay 60 dollars for it, and like it.

just thought: what if NoA defers the relase of Xenoblade to the wii u, just to get you to buy a wii u? they are nefarious, indeed

Amazingu Jul 16, 2011

xplojin. wrote:

just thought: what if NoA defers the relase of Xenoblade to the wii u, just to get you to buy a wii u? they are nefarious, indeed

This is a rumor/possible scenario that has been going around on other forums as well.

It would be a sneaky thing to do, but if they give it a bit of an HD overhaul and smooth things out a bit, I'd be all over it. AGAIN.

Tim JC Aug 1, 2011

The Australian release gets a special soundtrack bundled in. I kinda wish I was getting that...and that French art book. Oh well, I'm still getting a package of awesome.

Amazingu Aug 1, 2011

Tim JC wrote:

The Australian release gets a special soundtrack bundled in. I kinda wish I was getting that...and that French art book. Oh well, I'm still getting a package of awesome.

I assume the special soundtrack is the one that came with the JP version as well?
And the French Art Book is the Xenoblade Monado Files book released in Japan, and I wonder if they actually translated it...

Tim JC Aug 1, 2011 (edited Aug 1, 2011)

Amazingu wrote:
Tim JC wrote:

The Australian release gets a special soundtrack bundled in. I kinda wish I was getting that...and that French art book. Oh well, I'm still getting a package of awesome.

I assume the special soundtrack is the one that came with the JP version as well?
And the French Art Book is the Xenoblade Monado Files book released in Japan, and I wonder if they actually translated it...

Oh, I didn't know about the JP version including a soundtrack. I guess twelve tracks would feel more like a tease of the full OST though. I swore to myself that I was done buying VGM two years ago, and this is one of the recent soundtracks that has made that hard to keep.
If they did actually translate the Monado Archives book I wonder if it's a limited print of 1000 then. I just figured it would be the original book, but you never know.

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