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avatar! Oct 22, 2010

My answer is no.
It looks like there are 3 types of games so far.

a)dance games -but if I want to dance, I go dancing (as in real people and music)!
b)sports games -if I want to play sports, I go play sports (as in with real people)!
c)fitness games -I prefer the gym, or doing some active outdoors.

That's my take so far. However, maybe I'm curious to hear what others have to say. Maybe good games will be released for it later? Maybe it would work great with games like Trauma Center... but right now, I have no interest, and really, it looks to me like they're targeting a younger audience.

Zane Oct 22, 2010

One day, Microsoft will have an original idea.

Jay Oct 22, 2010

Nope.

Ashley Winchester Oct 22, 2010 (edited Oct 22, 2010)

No. I don't care about Move either, but then I'm not worried about the PS3 and 360 to begin with. More interested in handhelds.

Edit: Both are just a pathetic attempt to cash in on that whole "casual gamer" thing the wii has already capitalized on. I feel It's already too late for the PS3 and 360 to try and make a move on that this generation: many minds are set and currently those consoles are better suited for hardcore gamers. I mean god, how many FPS are on those freakin consoles.... everytime you turn around there's another one.

Bernhardt Oct 22, 2010

Kinect -do you care?

No.

How's that for a troll post, eh, Joshy?!

GoldfishX Oct 22, 2010

I think Kinect ultimately is less of a ripoff of the Wiimote and offers a more compelling example than Sony's offering.

But no, I don't care and I believe it will contribute very capably to the ultimate downfall of motion control silliness, as well as the ongoing trend of having expensive add-ons being regarded as commercial failures. I have all the faith in the world in it, in that regard.

Honestly, if Microsoft or Sony were actually serious about this, they would have either launched their systems with the hardware or they'd give the damn things away.

Qui-Gon Joe Oct 22, 2010

Zane wrote:

One day, Microsoft will have an original idea.

I actually thought Kinect WAS a bit more of an original idea - at least MS tried to do something different with motion control than Sony, who looked at what made Nintendo money and copied it directly (surprise).  Unfortunately the games just don't seem to be there.  I'd totally be on board if they showed me anything even remotely compelling, but it seems they're focusing ONLY on the casual with this thing instead of a mixture.  Oh well.

rein Oct 22, 2010

I agree with Qui-Gon.  I really don't understand how Microsoft could be accused of being a copycat here.  Registering the position and movement of a player's entire body is wholly different from registering the position and movement of a couple of hand-held controllers.  The former creates much more potential for intriguing motion-based gameplay.

That said, I fully expect the reality to be that few, if any, Kinect-compatible games will amount to anything more than craven pandering to the casual market that Nintendo has locked up.  The reality also is that Microsoft has priced the Kinect to fail.

The ideal scenario would be for Microsoft to drop the price and include a pair of one-handed controllers to allow players to use a controller and move freely for Kinect simultaneously, and then for developers to use Kinect to complement conventional controller gameplay.  For example, an action game might primarily be played with a controller but allow the player to contort his body Matrix-style to dodge bullets.

GoldfishX Oct 22, 2010

In this day and age, with the cost of games already astronomical, who would make quality software for an add-on like the Kinect? I mean, maybe a series of Live Arcade games on the cheap (both in production and cost) would be better in line, but as with Wii or Move, I can't see games dedicated to this retailing for full value. At least Wii is designed from the ground-up and motion-controlled right out of the box, for better or for worse and no additional hardware if required. But...Few developers made Sega CD/32X games or 64 DD games or Playstation 2 games that really utilized the hard drive or Gamecube network adapter games. I'm going to assume making a game for the PS3 or 360 costs more than one than those systems.

I've read a couple pieces recently that say videogaming is set for a decline and has been in one for awhile now (at least console gaming as we know it). Might things such as Move or Kinect be viewed as true desperation tactics on the part of Sony and Microsoft?

Adam Corn Oct 22, 2010

I played Dance Evolution for Kinect at Konami's booth at TGS.  I had some issues with the design of the game (basically as a beginner, the "follow the dancers as they go" gameplay was more difficult to adjust to than the "watch and repeat" gameplay of early music games like Bust a Groove).  But nonetheless it was an interesting experience seeing yourself on screen dancing on a tricked out stage with some weird hybrid dancers of 70s disco and new millennium Harajuku.

I think even for motion gaming there are instances where the motion controller approach of Nintendo and Sony will work better than the Kinect approach.  For me the most intriguing application of the Kinect so far is user interface - navigating menus and such Minority Report-style - rather than actual gaming.  (Video chat is an added benefit assuming they can get the thing in enough households, or even better integrate with Skype.)

It looks like amazing technology and I imagine they'll manage to do something impressive with it eventually.

GoldfishX Oct 22, 2010

Adam Corn wrote:

I played Dance Evolution for Kinect at Konami's booth at TGS.  I had some issues with the design of the game (basically as a beginner, the "follow the dancers as they go" gameplay was more difficult to adjust to than the "watch and repeat" gameplay of early music games like Bust a Groove).  But nonetheless it was an interesting experience seeing yourself on screen dancing on a tricked out stage with some weird hybrid dancers of 70s disco and new millennium Harajuku.

I think even for motion gaming there are instances where the motion controller approach of Nintendo and Sony will work better than the Kinect approach.  For me the most intriguing application of the Kinect so far is user interface - navigating menus and such Minority Report-style - rather than actual gaming.  (Video chat is an added benefit assuming they can get the thing in enough households, or even better integrate with Skype.)

It looks like amazing technology and I imagine they'll manage to do something impressive with it eventually.

I guess my question is not if you would use it, but if you would actually invest in it as part of your gaming set-up (and I mean now, not like 3 years from now, when the set-ups are in the clearance bins). I won't deny some of the ideas I've seen look like they might be fun for a session or two, but I haven't seen much that would last past that.

Adam Corn Oct 22, 2010

GoldfishX wrote:

I guess my question is not if you would use it, but if you would actually invest in it as part of your gaming set-up (and I mean now, not like 3 years from now, when the set-ups are in the clearance bins). I won't deny some of the ideas I've seen look like they might be fun for a session or two, but I haven't seen much that would last past that.

Don't underestimate the power of novelty (reference the iPhone and Wii).  If the system can really do the things they say it can do, and if they put out some software over the next year or two that actually proves it, I can see it being a pretty big success in the U.S.  $300 (with a gimped 4GB, granted) is affordable enough that a lot of people will pay it, if it offers a truly unique experience.  (I'd say for current Xbox owners $100 for the add-on would make it a lot more attractive.)

Personally I won't get one now as I don't have an Xbox and might not have the living room space (two factors that will probably doom the device in Japan) but further on down the road, maybe.

James O Oct 23, 2010

i just had a thought for giant home style DS - i keep seeing on shows like H5O where the table is a surface computer and they "swipe-push" images from there on to a monitor up on the wall... what if your coffee table is a touch screen and your tv is the video screen?  Giant DS.  (but that would only work if your set up at home has a coffee table near your tv...)

I have no interest in kinect however. mostly cause i don't have an XBox360 nor care to either.  I would play my Wii more if i had the time, but most of the games I get don't use the motion control aspect of it that much...  I have not gotten the Move either - none of the software interests me yet.

SonicPanda Oct 23, 2010

Adam Corn wrote:

might not have the living room space

...and that's the death knell for me. I've long since gotten over apprehension with motion controls (save the occasional unresponsive game), but the space requirements for this thing make it a complete impossibility for me and my modest apartment. A shame because I was interested in trying Steel Battalion 2, at least.

Amazingu Oct 23, 2010

I keep hearing about space issues everywhere, so it sounds way too much of a hassle in any case.
Also, as has been said, nothing interesting is being made for it yet.
Thirdly, I've been playing my Wii for 4 years, and I'm about done with motion-sensing, JUST when Sony and MS decide to jump on the bandwagon.

So, no, I don't care in the least.

Pellasos Oct 23, 2010

i don't have a 360, but i might get move if more games show up. that time crisis pack is very tempting.

avatar! Oct 25, 2010

Ashley Winchester wrote:

I feel It's already too late for the PS3 and 360 to try and make a move on that this generation: many minds are set and currently those consoles are better suited for hardcore gamers. I mean god, how many FPS are on those freakin consoles.... everytime you turn around there's another one.

Truth. It seems that FPS and GoW-like games are rampant. As I said, the last really good game I played on the console was Demon's Souls. The atmosphere was simply phenomenal... and best of all, your character was NOT a self-proclaimed "bad-ass" who was simply there to just blow-shit up and/or slay anything that moves (technically you are a demon-slayer, but believe me, in that game the demons do just as much slaying as you smile

Princess-Isabela Oct 25, 2010 (edited Oct 25, 2010)

The only title I'd call a system seller at launch for Kinect, would be Dance Central.
Seems like ton of fun, and it's Harmonix so you can expect top notch quality.

Jodo Kast Nov 21, 2010

Kinect is extremely fun and addictive. Everyone thought I was crazy, because I was taking it so seriously. But it felt so good to do the sporting events, especially the boxing and track and field (I like to use my body). I don't own one myself, but one of my friends gets all the gaming gear right away, as if his life depends on it.

Sami Nov 21, 2010

Marginally interested. I'm worried about the open space needed, looks like it needs more room than Wii playing, which can already get a little cramped. And it's pretty expensive too. Not a high priority.

brandonk Nov 21, 2010

Looks like the next Panzer Dragoon game will be a Kinect title....vaguely interested.

Adam Corn Nov 21, 2010

brandonk wrote:

Looks like the next Panzer Dragoon game will be a Kinect title....vaguely interested.

It's not technically a Panzer Dragoon game (Project Draco) though it might as well be - same director, almost identical art design.  I'm curious to see how they're going to accomplish dragon controls via Kinect.

A remake double-pack of Panzer Dragoon 1 and 2 for Wii or better yet PS3 Move seems like a more logical choice to me but maybe Sega isn't interested.

Pellasos Nov 21, 2010

got a few hours in at a friends place few days ago. he only had that mini game collection for kinect. it was nothing special and there was some noticable lag. if you're a precision freak, into good 2D shooters or fighting games, this won't be for you. there always be some lag you have to add for every one of your moves in advance.

i'd rather play DDR on a mat right now if i feel like moving around in front of my TV.

XLord007 Nov 26, 2010

I have no plans to get a Kinect, but I think it's a great idea for dance and fitness games.  Does that idea justify the $150 price tag?  Lord no.  I also think its HAL/Minority Report human-machine interface applications are a pretty cool, and I'm looking forward to see what the hackers do with that.

Ashley Winchester Nov 27, 2010

XLord007 wrote:

"fitness [video] games"

Oxymoron.

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