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Zane Nov 12, 2008

Well, that's up for debate, but the music on the site sure sounds like Sakimoto to me. Anyone have any thoughts on who the mystery man/woman is behind this theme?

Cedille Nov 12, 2008

Honestly, it doesn't sound like Sakimoto to me at all.

Even Mitsuda's recent orchestral side is closer than him (I mean, Armodyne and Xenosaga surely sound like this) and the initial section reminds me of FFIV and Naoshi Mizuta for some reason.

allyourbaseare Nov 12, 2008

I got all excited... thought maybe Masashi Hamauzu would be the mystery composer, but alas no. 

If I could throw out a couple of guesses (that intro song really picks up towards the end there!), it might be Kumi Tanioka or even Kenji Ito.  Though I'm leaning towards the former.

the_miker Nov 12, 2008 (edited Nov 12, 2008)

It does sound a little like Sakimoto.  I couldn't give it a real good listen because I'm at work right now but when I get home I'll really blast it and I should be able to tell.  With all the Valkyria Chronicles playing I'm doing lately, my ear is very trained to pick out Sakimoto's tunes.

By the way, allyourbaseare, nice new icon. wink

-Mike

Idolores Nov 12, 2008

I actually just looked at the link. That is some bitchin', bitchin' artwork.

Ashley Winchester Nov 12, 2008

Idolores wrote:

Had no idea you could trademark a deity.

You kidding, Square-Enix would copyright the air you breathe if they could.

Idolores Nov 12, 2008

Ashley Winchester wrote:
Idolores wrote:

Had no idea you could trademark a deity.

You kidding, Square-Enix would copyright the air you breathe if they could.

Maybe attach spikey hair and ridiculous weapons while they're at it.

Wanderer Nov 12, 2008 (edited Nov 12, 2008)

It sounds a little like Sakimoto at the beginning... and then it goes in a different direction. I'm actually not sure who wrote it (although it's pretty good!).

McCall Nov 12, 2008 (edited Sep 10, 2012)

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Idolores Nov 12, 2008

All right, all right. Does anyone have any info on the game itself? Google and Wiki turn up completely dry.

the_miker Nov 12, 2008

Listened to it and that's definitely not Sakimoto.  Doesn't sound like something Kenji Ito would do either so I'm gonna go with either Kumi Tanioka or that Ishimoto dude.  Or even Naoshi Mizuta if he's still around and unchained from his FFXI duties.

Idolores wrote:

All right, all right. Does anyone have any info on the game itself? Google and Wiki turn up completely dry.

I think that's what the countdown is for. tongue

-Mike

avatar! Nov 13, 2008

Idolores wrote:
Ashley Winchester wrote:
Idolores wrote:

Had no idea you could trademark a deity.

You kidding, Square-Enix would copyright the air you breathe if they could.

Maybe attach spikey hair and ridiculous weapons while they're at it.

Well said!
smile

Chris Nov 13, 2008

My guess is Hidenori Iwasaki given the militaristic timbres and melodic build-ups like his Front Mission work. Alternatively, Tsuyoshi Sekito given the ostinato-based approach is quite a bit like his Dawn of Mana and Last Remnant work. I think the former is more likely simply because Sekito is working of two other projects at the moment, but maybe development just started.

Carl Nov 13, 2008 (edited Nov 13, 2008)

The artwork below the counter is such an obvious Colossus ripoff, it looks like Squenix wants some kind of "Summons vs Colossus" grudge-match smackdown.

Idolores Nov 13, 2008

Carl wrote:

The artwork below the counter is such an obvious Colossus ripoff, it looks like Squenix wants some kind of "Summons vs Colossus" grudge-match smackdown.

I was expecting someone to say that. All due respect, knock-off or not, it's still nice artwork. Kinda makes me wonder what this is all about.

My initial impression was that this had some kind of relation to Bahamut Lagoon, but I would imagine someone would've recognized any elements from that drawing already and would've said something.

The plot thickens . . .

allyourbaseare Nov 13, 2008

Idolores wrote:

All due respect, knock-off or not, it's still nice artwork. Kinda makes me wonder what this is all about.

I'm the same way.  It's nice to see SQEX coming up with so many new IP's lately.  Almost like they've rekindled the fire. smile

Idolores Nov 13, 2008

allyourbaseare wrote:
Idolores wrote:

All due respect, knock-off or not, it's still nice artwork. Kinda makes me wonder what this is all about.

I'm the same way.  It's nice to see SQEX coming up with so many new IP's lately.  Almost like they've rekindled the fire. smile

I remember the days when everything Square (and Enix) touched turned to gold.

Ashley Winchester Nov 13, 2008 (edited Nov 13, 2008)

Idolores wrote:
allyourbaseare wrote:
Idolores wrote:

All due respect, knock-off or not, it's still nice artwork. Kinda makes me wonder what this is all about.

I'm the same way.  It's nice to see SQEX coming up with so many new IP's lately.  Almost like they've rekindled the fire. smile

I remember the days when everything Square (and Enix) touched turned to gold.

I do too, I honestly don't see that happening again even with all these new IP's. Nowadays a lot of SE's products just seem so soulless despite how pretty they may be.

Of course, this coming from a guy who's playing SaGa Frontier right now, so I wouldn't expect anyone to take my ramblings too seriously.

Carl Nov 13, 2008 (edited Nov 13, 2008)

How does a Bahamut (old Square IP) and a knockoff Colossus (other people's IP) equal a NEW IP?

Idolores Nov 13, 2008 (edited Nov 13, 2008)

Carl wrote:

How does a Bahamut (old Square IP) and a knockoff Colossus (other people's IP) equal a NEW IP?

Now hol' on, mister. We don't even know the utility of that big ol' guy. Jes' 'cause he looks like a damn colossus don't mean shit. You ain't gone tell a guy wearing blue jeans that he's rippin' off the style of some other guy with jeans, right?

Megavolt Nov 13, 2008

Probably the same way that combining Final Fantasy and Disney made for a "new" IP.

allyourbaseare Nov 13, 2008 (edited Nov 13, 2008)

While I can understand people being jaded after so much of the same crap, at least they're trying.  Sheesh.

One piece of art =/= Shadow of the Colossus rip off.  Please.

EDIT:  It's been discovered.

Carl Nov 13, 2008 (edited Nov 13, 2008)

I'm not making claims about how the in-game experience will play out.

They supplied a Bahamut and a Colossus, so it's not a huge stretch to say they are exploiting the popularity of someone else's Game Character, I didn't have to imagine anything, it's right there.

(They ripped off the Character, not the gameplay)

Qui-Gon Joe Nov 13, 2008

So wait a second... any artwork that combines stonework and fur is now a Colossus ripoff?  The things used for the frothing Square hate around here are such a stretch nowadays.  Maybe the art style is similar (especially the way the formations wrap around its right arm), but I'm seeing more of an entire world built onto a creature as opposed to the kind of things in SotC.  Personally I think it's a pretty cool piece of artwork.  That said, if it's really a sequel to Bahamut Lagoon, count me out.  Pretty to look at, though.

Oh, as for the music... it sounds familiar... like it's somebody that I SHOULD recognize but am not.  I guess we'll see!

(by the way, did you guys see the confirmation that it's a DS game?)

SquareTex Nov 13, 2008

Strange...when I saw the "walking castle", I wasn't thinking "Colossus". I was thinking "Alexander". Yeah, the classic Summon.

...am I old? wink

Carl Nov 14, 2008 (edited Nov 14, 2008)

...any artwork that combines stonework and fur is now a Colossus ripoff??

Ask yourself this, would Square have designed that exact same monster all by themselves if SoTC had never existed? 
I say there's no way the SE Staffers would have come up with that style of monster image without SoTC firmly establishing that visual theme/motif first.

Your mind may vary, but the very first thought that flashed in my head when I viewed that artwork was "oh it's a colossus", so when my brain makes an immediate visual association, that's strong enough grounds to personally claim that for me it's a YES.  Your brain may vary.

For Alexander, he looked more like a Holy Cathedral with flying buttresses.

McCall Nov 14, 2008 (edited Sep 10, 2012)

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Alcahest Nov 15, 2008

My bet would be either Iwasaki or Shimomura.. in any case this track rocks!
Later,

Alcahest

Cedille Nov 17, 2008 (edited Nov 17, 2008)

Anyone visited the launched site?

Today is the last day of your obssessions with ascribing whatever you think is generic orchestral music to Sakimoto anyways. The SotC rip off arguments is even more productive, and indeed, valid.

allyourbaseare Nov 17, 2008

Cedille wrote:

The SotC rip off arguments is even more productive, and indeed, valid.

Yeah, some parts will remind us all of SoTC, but oh well.  I'm interested in seeing SQEX's take on that game. 

The 2D sprites remind me alot of SaGa Frontier and it looks like the battles are in real time.  I'm way excited for this one!

Zane Nov 17, 2008

After watching the video I'd have to retract my statement and say that the music probably isn't Sakimoto - at least the trailer music isn't. The video definitely reminds me of SotC, though. I mean, the dude even walks onto the Colos... uh, Bahamut?

Qui-Gon Joe Nov 17, 2008

Yeah, okay, so the trailer makes it look a lot more like a Wanda ripoff.  Still no idea on the composer, though.

Carl Nov 17, 2008

so now I'm right all a sudden?  everyone dropped their pitchforks just as fast as they had grabbed them...

RinoaDestiny Nov 18, 2008

It's not just you, Carl. My first response to seeing the art was: "Why does that remind me of a colossus from SotC?" Several other people on GameFAQs also had the same initial reaction. Of course, seeing how that arm fell off really gave me SotC vibes - mmm...Colossus #2, perhaps? Dude lost his arm, too.

The color palette and textures are definitely not coincidental. Not when SotC came out years before this one and hit it big, too.

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