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Adam Corn Sep 19, 2011

I'm curious how many of the Blu-Ray collectors here are going to bite on these releases.

I've had the original trilogy pre-ordered for a while and was tremendously looking forward to it until the news of yet more unseemly changes to Return of the Jedi had me seriously considering cancelling.  After reading the nicely written review at blu-ray.com and considering that it's the Blu-rays or nothing (DVDs look horrible on my HDTV) I've decided to stick with the purchase but my enthusiasm has been dampened.

Not the least bit interested in getting the prequel trilogy or in overpaying for the full two-trilogy set just for the ep. 4-6 deleted scenes (I'll eventually borrow them from a friend or watch them online).

avatar! Sep 19, 2011

I'm not a blu-ray collector, but I would eventually consider getting Star Wars if it wasn't for the fact that Lucas keeps screwing with the original movies and destroying them little by little. As it so stands, I'm not going to purchase Star Wars on blu-ray until Lucas releases the original theatrical edition WITHOUT any of his pea-brained, idiotic, horrible, so-called "enhancements"!

Angela Sep 19, 2011

I've never been the biggest Star Wars fan, so I'm still not sure if these are worth the purchase or not.  Yes, some of the Lucas-fied changes are pretty damning, but spoken as a self-proclaimed video/audiophile, I'm really curious to see how these new transfers turned out.

The bonus features look to be pretty substantial, too.

Adam Corn Sep 19, 2011

Angela wrote:

but spoken as a self-proclaimed video/audiophile, I'm really curious to see how these new transfers turned out.

One thing that seems to be unanimous in all the reviews is that the audio mix is amaaazing.

Boco Sep 20, 2011

I can't afford the set yet, but I'm definitely getting the big 9-disc collection. Yeah, the prequels weren't great and there have been some frustrating changes to the original trilogy, but this is easily the best any of these films has ever looked or sounded. Not to mention there are 9 hours of special features! Not just rare, deleted scenes that can't be seen anywhere else, but tons of fantastic documentaries.

I wish they had included the theatrical versions and I'd love to hold out for them, but I seriously doubt it's every going to happen. And the video/audio quality of this set plus the bonus features make it plenty worthwhile to me. big_smile

Jay Sep 20, 2011

I declared myself out on the last batch of changes. I simply don't enjoy them any more. For me, the best way to watch Star Wars is to watch the Family Guy spoofs - all the best bits without the fat and the post-completion meddling and laughs too.

At this stage, I'm not even sure I'd enjoy the films if the original versions were released. So I'll definitely be giving these a miss.

XLord007 Sep 21, 2011

$80 is more than I want to pay for this, and I too am unhappy with Lucas' non-stop meddling, so I think I'll be skipping it unless I see it for cheap down the road.

Boco Sep 22, 2011

I appreciate that value is relative, but realistically $80 is a pretty good deal for a set like this. That's less than $9 per Blu-ray and, for a new release, that's great regardless of how you slice it. Lucas may love ruining his franchise, but at least he isn't scalping us for it. Lord knows he could if he wanted. tongue

XLord007 Sep 22, 2011

Boco wrote:

I appreciate that value is relative, but realistically $80 is a pretty good deal for a set like this. That's less than $9 per Blu-ray and, for a new release, that's great regardless of how you slice it. Lucas may love ruining his franchise, but at least he isn't scalping us for it. Lord knows he could if he wanted. tongue

Well, Lucas wants $140 for it, but most places have it on sale for $80.  It's not that I think it's a bad value so much as I just don't want to pay $80 for something I'm almost certain never to watch.  I've seen these movies so many times and they come on TV very frequently, so they're not really something I need to have on Blu-Ray.

Adam Corn Sep 23, 2011

I just watched Episode IV tonight and had a great time with it.  I'm not a huge videophile but from the early scenes I found myself impressed by the color and cleanness of the picture - it certainly doesn't look like a film from 1977.  By the second act I'd gotten too involved in the other aspects of the movie to consciously pay attention to the transfer but at the Death Star run once again I couldn't help but notice the improved quality.  Blu-Ray has up to this point been for me mostly just a method to watch movies on my new HDTV without them looking like crap (as most DVDs do); this is the first time where I really found myself appreciating the improved quality of the picture over the analog TV + DVD days.

The audio is great as advertised but what really makes the mix for me is the evenness between the music, sound effects and dialog.  So many movies I find myself having to adjust the volume between the action scenes and dialog scenes just because they blow the sound effects in the former so out of proportion, but here there's enough of a boost in amplitude for extra impact without it being annoying.

The one small but noticeable content change for this episode in this edition (the one in Tatooine) is indeed as silly as people have complained but is soon enough forgotten.  Happily they've reportedly left Empire alone (I suppose there are some places even Lucas won't go), and I'll know in a few days how the change to Jedi affects my opinion of that movie.  Even if I go to the extreme of reverting to my old DVD of Jedi, it's worth the asking price for me to have Episodes IV and V on Blu-Ray.

avatar! Sep 24, 2011

I understand Lucas is going to remake the series in 3D.

http://blog.moviefone.com/2010/09/28/st … ease-2012/

Look for at least 10 more sets coming out from Lucas on blu-ray, such as:

1)The 3D releases
2)The Enhanced 3D releases
3)The complete series in 3D
4)The complete series in 3D + 2D
5)The complete series in 3D + 2D enhanced
...

Lucas says "Thank$$$$$ so much, suckers"!

Adam Corn Sep 25, 2011

There were no more than two separate releases on DVD, and that was for the two different editions, which is a pretty big difference.

As the very article you linked mentions, they are stating they'll bring out one 3D conversion a year, starting with Episode 1, which would put the 3D release for Episode VI at 2017.  That means you're looking at 2018 at the earliest for this 3D Blu-ray edition of yours.

As I quite like the original Star Wars trilogy I would prefer not to wait that long to be able to watch them in decent quality at home, so I went ahead and spent $50 or so on three Blu-rays, which is a pretty good deal (for Japan).  I'm not happy about some of the changes and I may wind up paying again several years down the road to have the movies in some better format but I don't think that makes me a sucker.

Jay Sep 25, 2011

The two DVD releases were the exact same versions of the movies, weren't they? I think just the extras were different (inc the laser disc transfer of the original movies).

avatar! Sep 25, 2011

Adam Corn wrote:

There were no more than two separate releases on DVD, and that was for the two different editions, which is a pretty big difference.

If by two separate releases on DVD you mean:

Star Wars Trilogy (A New Hope / The Empire Strikes Back / Return of the Jedi) (Widescreen Edition with Bonus Disc)
Star Wars Trilogy (A New Hope / The Empire Strikes Back / Return of the Jedi) (Full Screen Edition with Bonus Disc)
Star Wars Trilogy (Widescreen Theatrical Edition)
Star Wars: Episode IV - A New Hope (Two-Disc Widescreen Enhanced and Original Theatrical Versions)
Star Wars: Episode V - The Empire Strikes Back (1980 & 2004 Versions, Widescreen Edition)
Star Wars: Episode VI - Return of the Jedi (1983 & 2004 Versions, Two-Disc Widescreen Edition)
Star Wars: Episode IV - A New Hope (Two-Disc Fullscreen Enhanced and Original Theatrical Versions)
Star Wars Episode V - The Empire Strikes Back (2-discs with Full Screen enhanced and original theatrical versions)
Star Wars Episode VI - Return of the Jedi (2-discs with Full Screen enhanced and original theatrical versions)
Star Wars Trilogy (Full Screen Edition Without Bonus Disc)
Star Wars Trilogy (Widescreen Edition Without Bonus Disc)
Star Wars Trilogy Bonus Disc (2004)

then you would be right. If you're enjoying the blu-ray release of Star Wars, then you are not a sucker. However, I feel that Lucas has sucker-punched enough of his fans over the years that for many of us, to purchase another release, would be asinine at best.

Adam Corn Sep 25, 2011

Whatever dude, they released the special editions and then they released the original versions later, which you could consider a bit of a dupe.  If you want to count the individual packages and the trilogy packages and the widescreen releases and full-screen releases as separate editions (in which case half the movies ever released on DVD "suckered" their customers) then you can, but I think you're going a long way to push your point.

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