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Ryu Jun 19, 2006

From Amazon.co.uk listing (the other is the 'import' I guess from the US that comes out a week earlier and has no track list), it appears to have three less songs than the first:

1. Jack Sparrow
2. Kraken
3. Davy Jones
4. I've Got My Eye On You
5. Dinner Is Served
6. Tia Dalma
7. Two Hornpipes (Tortuga)
8. Family Affair
9. Wheel Of Fortune
10. You Look Good Jack
11. Hello Beastie
12. He's A Pirate

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASI … 41-4071821

Angela Jun 21, 2006

The tracklisting looks to be quite confirmed, but as I mentioned in the other thread, I'm wondering just how accurate the names really are -- especially when taking into account the first album's crazy, mixed up titles.

It's sure been a while since I've looked at this, but in light of the upcoming sequel, I guess it can't hurt to bring it back out in the open.  Essentially, this was a soundtrack companion I did for the first film, in the hopes to help make sense of the album's tracklisting and context:

http://geocities.com/angie_liu201/pirat … track.html

Angela Jun 25, 2006

More on Tiësto's remixes, and the Dead Man's Chest: Remixes album, from www.one.org:

"To celebrate the release of this summer's blockbuster 'Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest', Disney invited Tiësto to remix the title theme 'He's A Pirate' into a progressive epic trance anthem.

Tiësto was honoured with this invitation and produced a trance anthem as well as an orchestral remix with the original euphoric orchestral break. 'Dead Man's Chest: Remixes' cd-single contains the Tiësto remix, a Tiësto radio edit and remixes by Friscia & Lamboy, Pelo Verde, Pete n' Red and Chris Joss. Radio edits of Tiësto and Pete n' Red Jolly Roger remixes are included on the Promotional CD.

The Walt Disney Pictures film opens in theatres nationwide on July 7th. Check out the remixes and experience the thrill of the Pirates of the Caribbean!"

The album will be released on both a two-disc vinyl set and a CD:

Promotional 12':
DISC ONE
Side A
1. 'He's A Pirate' - Tiësto Remix
Side B
1. 'He's A Pirate' - Friscia & Lamboy Tribal Treasure Mix

DISC TWO
Side A
1. 'Swords Crossed' - Pete n' Red's Jolly Roger Trance Mix
2. 'Swords Crossed' - NK & Funky Junction Cursed Square Trubolenza
Side B
1. 'He's A Pirate' - Pelo Verde Mix
2. 'He's A Pirate' - Chris Joss Ship Ahoy Tribal Mix

Original Score composed by Klaus Badelt - Published by Walt Disney Music (ASCAP)


Promotional CD:
1. 'He's A Pirate' - Tiësto Radio Edit
2. 'He's A Pirate' - Pete n' Red's Jolly Roger Radio Edit
3. 'Swords Crossed' - Original score
4. 'He's A Pirate' - Friscia & Lamboy Tribal Treasure Mix
5. 'He's A Pirate' - Pelo Verde Mix
6. 'He's A Pirate' - Tiësto Remix
7. 'He's A Pirate' - Pete n' Red's Jolly Roger Trance Mix
8. 'He's A Pirate' - Chris Joss Ship Ahoy Tribal Mix
9. 'Jack's Theme Suite' - New score cue from Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest* by Hans Zimmer

*Walt Disney Records will release the Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest soundtrack on July 4th.

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At the moment, I have no leads on where to get either vinyl or CD, but I'll be keeping an eye out for them.  It looks like the vinyl has two exclusive tracks over the CD, the "Pete n' Red's Jolly Roger Trance Mix" and "NK & Funky Junction Cursed Square Trubolenza" versions of Swords Crossed.  On the other hand, the CD has ALL the versions of "He's A Pirate" that's featured on the vinyl, plus a couple more.

Ryu Jun 25, 2006

Interesting find, Angela.  No luck on a torrent at least?

Angela Jun 29, 2006 (edited Nov 12, 2006)

iTunes actually has the album available for purchase -- or part of it, anyway; six of the nine tracks.  Just do a search for "Pirates Remixed." 

The tracks are hit or miss, in my opinion.  The much-lauded Tiësto mixes are surprisingly lackluster, and are easily the least impressive of the bunch; poorly mixed, terribly generic backbeats, and not nearly enough emphasis on the main melody.  The "Pete n' Red's Jolly Roger Trance Mix," however, is most excellent, and the "Pelo Verde Mix" is good as well.

The "Chris Joss Ship Ahoy Tribal Mix" had a lot of potential with some fine sounding backbeats, but with only fifteen seconds of the original source invested into the four minute 47 second song, it's much too scarce to even bother.  The "Friscia & Lamboy Tribal Treasure Mix" fares much better, but may be a bit too lengthy for its own good.

Ryu Jun 29, 2006

Thanks for the Rapidshare compilation; I'm downloading it now.

Wanderer Jul 3, 2006

I've heard the original score. File it in the guilty pleasure category. wink

It's far more focused than the first score (which isn't a surprise considering less than 12 people wrote it tongue) and has a few catchy themes. Unfortunately, it favors synth over the orchestra (which always makes the music sound like crap) and the electric guitar is hardly subtle. I liked the use of the organ though. wink

Looking forward to the movie!

Ryu Jul 4, 2006

I listened to it last night as well... I'm not sure how I feel about Zimmer's hesitancy to use the "He's A Pirate" theme (is that what it is called?) and the fact it sounds and 'feels' rather different than the previous movie.

Still looking forward to the movie and to hear the score in context.

Angela Jul 4, 2006

Wanderer wrote:

It's far more focused than the first score (which isn't a surprise considering less than 12 people wrote it :p)

Yes, but not less than eight, according to the CD booklet. ;)  But of course, it doesn't list who does what and where.   

I'm reserving full judgment until after Friday, but so far, I like what I'm hearing.  The tonal shift to the dark is certainly noticeable, especially in the creepy-sounding "You Look Good Jack" - but the new tone does accompany the mainstay action-adventure mood with equal measure. 

The new theme for Davy Jones is the real highlight, and I too find the use of the organ to be pretty cool. (Though it's not nearly as potent as that delectable music box.  Mmm!)  For returning themes, the Irish jig melody is used extensively throughout, and there's more than a couple of references to the original Swords Crossed cue.  I'm also surprised to hear the villain theme from the first film again, most prominent in "A Family Affair" and "Tia Dalma," and I love the near note-for-note throwback to the Sparrow Arrival cue in the latter half of "I've Got My Eye On You."  "Wheel of Fortune" is my favorite piece so far, where Zimmer seems to lay it all on the line with a super-sized medley of both old and new themes, with lots of awesome rhythm and percussion changes that keeps it really fresh and exciting. (And oh snap, I did NOT just hear Toccata & Fugue in D Minor at 3:05, did I??) 

The Tiësto Remix of "He's A Pirate" featured on the album comes off sounding a little more respectable than the Radio Edit and Orchestral Mix featured on the Remixes album, since they cut out that awful splice-in from the original.  It's just too bad the melody is drowned out in those harsh trance backbeats, because I think a lot of magic could be done with the song in the right hands.

As for the overall use of "He's A Pirate," I'm going to go out on a limb and presume that it's going to show up a lot more in the film itself.  This being, after all, a 52 minute representation of the purported two hours of score featured in the film itself, they likely wanted to showcase more of the newer stuff for the CD.

Wanderer Jul 4, 2006

Yes, but not less than eight, according to the CD booklet. wink  But of course, it doesn't list who does what and where.

And overproduced by Zimmer himself! wink I always get a kick out of that...

"The Kraken" entertains me the most. It's like anarchy on a disc! wink "Hello Beastie" is the most disappointing to me. It's ten minutes of... nothing, basically. This is junk music but it's so fantastically entertaining that I can't get enough of it. If you want Zimmer in full artistic mode, check out "The Da Vinci Code." He does a great job with that score.

(And oh snap, I did NOT just hear Toccata & Fugue in D Minor at 3:05, did I??)

That's the Kraken theme. Unfortunately, the theme itself bears an unfortunate resemblance to the aforementioned classical piece. It might not be so obvious if he didn't use the organ.

Angela Jul 4, 2006

Wanderer wrote:

"Hello Beastie" is the most disappointing to me. It's ten minutes of... nothing, basically.

It is genuinely moody, but you're right, it doesn't get particularly interesting until the last three minutes, where they bring the 'One Last Shot' cue back from the first film, and "He's A Pirate," which is wonderfully compelling in its subdued state.  That final reference to the Irish jig melody certainly gives an air of obvious continuity; I can just see the "To be continued..." flash across the screen now.  ^_^

I'm loving "The Kraken," but my god, I have a feeling the film music connoisseurs are gonna rip it to shreds.  >_<

Wanderer Jul 4, 2006

It is genuinely moody, but you're right, it doesn't get particularly interesting until the last three minutes, where they bring the 'One Last Shot' cue back from the first film, and "He's A Pirate," which is wonderfully compelling in its subdued state.  That final reference to the Irish jig melody certainly gives an air of obvious continuity; I can just see the "To be continued..." flash across the screen now.  ^_^

Yeah, I liked the ending. I didn't actually see it as being used for a cliffhanger but I bet you're right...

I'm not familiar enough with the first score to pick up the references like you are but I'll take your word for it. wink I plan on rewatching the first movie before seeing the second. I'll pay careful attention then.

I'm loving "The Kraken," but my god, I have a feeling the film music connoisseurs are gonna rip it to shreds.  >_<

Oh, they are. wink People are going into cardiac arrest over this score. It's odd. A month ago, I would have hated this track but I can't stop listening to it! It's just too damn entertaining! I'm starting to suspect the same thing applies for the entire score. The movie is gonna rock!

Angela Jul 8, 2006 (edited Jul 8, 2006)

As expected, "He's A Pirate" had lots more places to shine in the film than on the CD.  Most are pretty close to the original in terms of arrangement, but it always makes you feel good whenever they come up.  It was especially great to once again hear it during the end credits. 

There are quite a few musical compositions and themes that are totally absent on the CD, such as the harpsichord melody used for Lord Beckett's theme.  And I really wish some of those organ-solo pieces playing up Jones' theme were in; I've completely fallen in love with his theme. :)

Wanderer Jul 8, 2006

How was the film?

I've been told that the first two tracks on the soundtrack are concert arrangements. I'll be seeing this movie soon... I hope. I don't want to see it alone so I have to call up a friend or two. I hate going to the movies by myself. wink

Angela Jul 8, 2006 (edited Jul 8, 2006)

Wanderer wrote:

How was the film?

I'll save the movie discussion for the other thread, but from a musical standpoint, the score feels a lot less dense and more spread out in the film than on CD.  Much of what's on the CD seems to be arranged in concert suite fashion, and as such, are wildly out of order.

The music presented in the film also feels a lot more in spirit to the original movie than the CD lets on, due to the liberal use of returning themes like "He's A Pirate" and "Swords Crossed" - but the new themes are integrated in such a way that it feels as though they've always been part of the series.  In that regard, I think Zimmer and gang succeeded in effectively bridging that transition from film to film, and it's completely seamless.

I stayed during the entire end credits to see the coda scene (which is worth waiting for, I think; it wraps up one character's story in the film, at least. ^_^), and it goes through the new thematic motions.  I love the way the credits end with the music box part of Jones' theme; it sent a chill up my spine like the way Star Wars: EP2 ended with that unsettlingly subdued mixing of Across The Stars and The Imperial March.

Angela Jul 14, 2006

In context, "Hello Beastie" is incredible, and is actually now turning out to be one of my most favorite tracks.  Its dramatic tone is well-placed for the cliffhanger and resolution of scenes that apply.  That feeling of finality from the 3:21 to the 4:27 mark is powerfully moving.

I'm still stunned at how things turned out at the end of the film.  They've certainly painted the characters into bold new expectations, keeping us guessing, perhaps, until the end of the trilogy.

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